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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XI: Where 90% correct equals 100% wrong

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i would genuinely be surprised if sakurai made dark pit a separate character over a recolor. again, lucina makes sense since she's a female with a completely different sword. Pit and Dark pit are the same characters that use the same weapons.
 
I don't think the orbiting menus were much of an issue in Prime 2 for me as far as its visual layout goes, it's more about just how fractured the logbook section was in general, so many subsections made for a rather confusing structure, it's like a mini metroidvania in my menu trying to remember the right path to reach the sky temple key hints.
 

Caladrius

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So I was thinking about Metroid Prime's UI and how awesome it is... And then I remembered how bad Metroid Prime 2's is. Sure, the scan visor was massively improved, but this..
We should thank our lucky stars that whoever designed Prime 2's menus didn't design Smash's, because good gravy, just picking a character would be annoying.

I'm going to sound completely insane but If 8K televisions were standard I'd love a globe-shaped character select for each player.
 

Tripon

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Fake Smash Leak? Fake Smash Leak.

Also, lol at Pokemon Smash in 2016.
 

EulaCapra

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Fake Smash Leak? Fake Smash Leak.

Also, lol at Pokemon Smash in 2016.
Oh god I can't. It's nice of them to include Dixie AND King K. Rool instead of one or the other like most, but Geezus... talk about riding that Duck Hunt Dog train and going over the edge of the cliff with it with Ganon, Captain Rainbow, Maxwell, and Pokemon Smash.
 

Toxi

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I literally just finished Echoes, like a bunch of hours ago. those orbiting logbook entries are my main gripe with the whole game. It's absurd they thought it was a good idea. I've never seen worse menus and options in my entire life.
I just finished Echoes too a few days ago, and yeah, they're horrible. For all the hate that people rightfully give Playstation All Star's UI, at least it was easy to use.

It's funny because Retro drastically improved the scan visor's ease of use, but completely fouled up the menus.
I don't think the orbiting menus were much of an issue in Prime 2 for me as far as its visual layout goes, it's more about just how fractured the logbook section was in general, so many subsections made for a rather confusing structure, it's like a mini metroidvania in my menu trying to remember the right path to reach the sky temple key hints.
I think the reason they had so many subsections was because you couldn't have too many entries up at the same time with the orbiting menus. Navigating 5 or so entries was bad enough already, I can't imagine navigating around every creature in the game trying to find if I had the Pillbug scan or not.
 

JazzmanZ

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Oh god I can't. It's nice of them to include Dixie AND King K. Rool instead of one or the other like most, but Geezus... talk about riding that Duck Hunt Dog train and going over the edge of the cliff with it with Ganon, Captain Rainbow, Maxwell, and Pokemon Smash.

"I work on the 3DS version of Smash bros! but I only know about characters, and sorry no pics! also here's some info about an unrelated game"
 

JazzmanZ

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People at Smashboards coined better names for Duck Hunt Dog if he's playable with ducks. They coined it as Dog & Ducks.

If Duck Hunt dog is playable, I bet it's because Sakurai chose him to represent the moveset he almost thought of for Nintendogs during the Brawl days.

Naturally it's easier to swallow beating a cartoon looking dog then a realistic looking one too.
 

chaosblade

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If Duck Hunt dog is playable, I bet it's because Sakurai chose him to represent the moveset he almost thought of for Nintendogs during the Brawl days.

Naturally it's easier to swallow beating a cartoon looking dog then a realistic looking one too.

Especially when it's a cartoon dog that a lot of older gamers would absolutely love to beat the shit out of.
 
If Duck Hunt dog is playable, I bet it's because Sakurai chose him to represent the moveset he almost thought of for Nintendogs during the Brawl days.

Naturally it's easier to swallow beating a cartoon looking dog then a realistic looking one too.

Could I have a link to where ever you got that info? Not doubting you, just curious to read about it.
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
If Duck Hunt dog is playable, I bet it's because Sakurai chose him to represent the moveset he almost thought of for Nintendogs during the Brawl days.

Naturally it's easier to swallow beating a cartoon looking dog then a realistic looking one too.

Yep, I would agreed with you there. Ironically enough, I made a same post like 10-20 pages ago. I even included the picture that Sakurai posted during Brawl era, explaining about Villager and Nintendog not being playable characters.

Especially when it's a cartoon dog that a lot of older gamers would absolutely love to beat the shit out of.

Exactly, but I wouldn't place a completely faith in a rumor tho. It would be cool if it actually happens. If it didn't happens then I wouldn't be surprised because Sakurai don't really give Dog a recognition. If you look at Melee, you would only see Duck as trophy. For Super Smash Bros Brawl, Duck was a sticker.
 

chaosblade

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Exactly, but I wouldn't place a completely faith in a rumor tho. It would be cool if it actually happens. If it didn't happens then I wouldn't be surprised because Sakurai don't really give Dog a recognition. If you look at Melee, you would only see Duck as trophy. For Super Smash Bros Brawl, Duck was a sticker.

I don't believe a single rumor that's out there right now, including the second part of the Gematsu one. And I'd be absolutely shocked if Duck Hunt Dog was in Smash.
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
Could I have a link to where ever you got that info? Not doubting you, just curious to read about it.

I'm trying to find the source. However it's not related to the question that you asked, but I remember there is a picture of this when he were talking about assist trophy or something.

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Neiteio

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Anyone with shop skills able to help render the below?

Note about Koopa Crew -- Bowser Jr. could represent them.

Can someone make the following mockup, with the flame backdrops and all?

Four rows of 13 each. Mii Fighters, Random, and Add-On Fighters each have their own banner at the top. (On the 3DS version, their banners would be on the touchscreen)

ROW 1:

01 - Mario
02 - Luigi
03 - Bowser
04 - Peach
05 - Rosalina & Luma
06 - Koopa Crew
07 - Dr. Mario
08 - Yoshi
09 - Wario
10 - Donkey Kong
11 - Diddy Kong
12 - Villager
13 - Wii Fit Trainer

ROW 2:

14 - Link
15 - Zelda
16 - Sheik
17 - Ganondorf
18 - Toon Link
19 - Samus
20 - Zero Suit Samus
21 - Pit
22 - Palutena
23 - Dark Pit
24 - Kirby
25 - King Dedede
26 - Meta Knight

ROW 3:

27 - Pikachu
28 - Charizard
29 - Lucario
30 - Greninja
31 - Jigglypuff
32 - Fox
33 - Falco
34 - Wolf
35 - Ice Climbers
36 - Duck Hunt Dog
37 - Little Mac
38 - Shulk
39 - Chorus Kids

ROW 4:

40 - Marth
41 - Ike
42 - Lucina
43 - Robin
44 - Pikmin & Olimar
45 - Captain Falcon
46 - Ness
47 - Lucas
48 - R.O.B.
49 - Mr. Game & Watch
50 - Sonic
51 - Mega Man
52 - Pac-Man

Banner tab at top: Mii Fighters

Banner tab at top: RANDOM

Banner tab at top: Add-On Fighters
 

Hatchtag

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Can I just mention how much more I love the CSS in this than in Brawl, specifically in Widescreen? In Brawl, you just had so much empty space. I hated that. In this, it looks like there won't be much of that! :D
 
Hidden characters have already been revealed, it's not as big of a deal as it used to be that a character is unlockable. People expecting some hidden surprises in the roster via unlockables are going to be disappointed.
All of the characters revealed so far are starters. It pisses me off so much when anyone suggests otherwise. Sakurai isn't the dumb MK8 team, he is not going to reveal a character that you have to unlock except for maybe third parties, but I think they too will be starters. Theres no real reason to have the unlockable unless its a secret character, which obviously any character officially revealed isn't secret.

Why isn't G&W on the website? Its because he's a unlockable character that was just used to do that little video in Pac-Man's trailer. Like the previous games, there will probably be atleast 4 unlockable newcomers if not more. They could be all clones, but they still will be new.
 
All of the characters revealed so far are starters. It pisses me off so much when anyone suggests otherwise. Sakurai isn't the dumb MK8 team, he is not going to reveal a character that you have to unlock except for maybe third parties, but I think they too will be starters. Theres no real reason to have the unlockable unless its a secret character, which obviously any character officially revealed isn't secret.

Why isn't G&W on the website? Its because he's a unlockable character that was just used to do that little video in Pac-Man's trailer. Like the previous games, there will probably be atleast 4 unlockable newcomers if not more. They could be all clones, but they still will be new.

Toon Link and Luigi as starters?

not a chance
 
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