Looks cold and clinical, IMO. Way too sterile.
This kind of thing is what I was on about when I said minimalist. It just looks so much cleaner and pleasing to the eye.
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XI: Where 90% correct equals 100% wrong
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I... Did.
Anyway I forgot her FS was in her trailer. He's probably an AT or stage boss or something. Even though Hades/Medusa is a perfect stage boss.
Maybe an alt with a different voice.
is that what you think of the main website because it's essentially emulating it
play it for 60 more hours
play it for 60 more hours
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
I found translations:
Little Mac:
Neutral Special Attack - Fighting Spirit Straight - Gathers up power and unleashes a punch while moving. If attacked while charging the attack, he will not flinch.
Neutral Special Attack (custom) - Engulfing Fire Straight - Attacks with a straight while the opponent is engulfed in flame. It charges quickly, but does less damage.
Neutral Special Attack (custom) - Numbing Straight - A punch that stuns the opponent at full power. While the move has a long range, he will flinch if attacked.
Rosalina:
Downward Special Attack - Item Capture - Because she can draw items and projectiles towards herself, it is easy to have a monopoly on them. She can attack her opponents with the items she collects.
Downward Special Attack (custom) - Catch & Release - Attracts the opponent and then blows them away. She cannot attract items, however.
Downward Special Attack (custom) - Guardian Luma - The Luma becomes larger for a moment and protects Rosalina. The usual Luma is otherwise weak and would have been blown away.
balladofwindfishes
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I'm of the mindset that Robins trailer would have been the same whether Lucina was playable or not, and I kind of feel like Palutenas is sort of the same deal, but with Dark Pit. They included him "just in case" but didn't end up making him a character. The way the video is paced, the end of Palutena's trailer could have easily segwayed into a quick montage of Dark Pit, had they decided to use him.
His inclusion in the trailer is... weird, but if he was a clone new comer, he would have been revealed then, as Lucina was. His hopes of being on the roster now are probably as an elaborate alt color for Pit.
His inclusion in the trailer is... weird, but if he was a clone new comer, he would have been revealed then, as Lucina was. His hopes of being on the roster now are probably as an elaborate alt color for Pit.
The Bankslammer
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I'm pretty sure this is the Slip Counter description. The Numbing Straight description says something about numbing the opponent (whatever that means in terms of Smash...) and being long range.
Yeah I'm leaning toward color now. I think they'd want to retain the color but having that and a stage hazard could be confusing. Like how Lucina was considered as a Marth alt.
Interesting..
So Rosalina do have a custom that change the concept of the move
Pretty good custom moves overall
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
Yeah, my mistake lol.
Not really -- Rosalina still does the typical wand waving motion. The only difference is that Luma gets bigger.Interesting..
So Rosalina do have a custom that change the concept of the move
I think he'll be luigified pit .. or maybe wolfied pit. The way Sakurai worded his reasoning for Lucina being her own character made it seem like there are more clonish characters like that
balladofwindfishes
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If that was the case, he'd be revealed at the end of Palutena's trailer, like Lucina was revealed in Robin's. He's probably just an alternate color for Pit that changes his voice and announcer line.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
Correct description. I'm guessing "at full power" means "when fully charged."
You know speculation is often based on assumption right?
Or he is chilling in limbo with Ridley. Maybe he's a hidden character so he's hinted at but not outright confirmed, or he was in an unstable state when the trailer came out. Many possibilities.
If he's in, I still believe that he will be a more close range oriented Pit
Because bows > all
balladofwindfishes
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Hidden characters have already been revealed, it's not as big of a deal as it used to be that a character is unlockable. People expecting some hidden surprises in the roster via unlockables are going to be disappointed.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
He should use his Dark Pit staff, though.
you're my new favourite person
Agreed.
chaosblade
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Dark Pit seems like a pretty boring character to add to the roster as a unique character and not a Pit clone. But I haven't played Kid Icarus Uprising and likely never will, so I guess there's something to him that isn't obvious.
Yeah, Sakurai's comments on what constitutes a clone vs. an alt did seem like he was establishing the ground rules for other clones in the game. I'd like to think those include Dark Pit and Dr. Mario, as per the rumor on Smashboards.
Like I said before, Dark Pit could function as a clone of Pit with different weapons from the same weapon class, I.E. a different set of orbitars other than Pit's Guardian Orbitars, etc.
If Dark Pit is his own character, which I'm not really expecting, then he'll probably have different weapons in place of the Upperdash Arm and Guardian Orbitars, a different Final Smash, maybe a few cocky/"dirty" weak attacks, and obviously his own taunts. He could even have Pit's Brawl up special.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Debatable, but I'm not getting into this. Your comment was just unnecessary tho, since this thread is all about speculations and discussions.
Beelzebufo
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Characters like Toon link? I think he was just stating that as a general rule, once you get different abilities you get your own slot. Since Pittoo didn't get a reveal or anything, I'm thinking he's an alt costume.
Whether he's an alt costume or a Lucina clone, I expect him to get a silver bow instead of Palutena bow, and red sparkles on the power of flight as opposed to pits blue.
Yeah.. I really dont think Lucina is the only clone in the game..
Dark Pit is such a good choice for a clone
We don't know who's hidden or not this time around so that argument is moot.
Claws>Staffs>the rest
Very true. I don't think he would have said any changes to properties would make one their own character and only have Lucina as an example in the final roster.
That said, we could get way more characters than expected via clonage
I'm guessing that Ghirahim was supposed to be revealed earlier, but I guess he wasn't, because they scrapped him for a Link Between Worlds character instead, but they're using his model for an assist trophy and we've not seen that yet so I guess we'll get that next week. *shrug*
I'm assuming.
I'm assuming.
Hmm point noted. Could go either way actually. I want to be optimistic about it though lol
foxuzamaki
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Do my eyes deceive me
balladofwindfishes
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Chances are Toon Link, Luigi, Lucario, Sonic, Megaman, And Pacman are unlock able. I'd imagine Palutena, Lucina, Mii Fighter and any remaining new comers will also be.
He's already shown us characters that were unlock able in previous games, which is already different than previous reveals. And with every new comer having a trailer, he's not going to hide those, and they have a bigger impact being shown off before release.
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That was my honest take on your statement. It was a bunch of speculation based on nothing. It's one thing to wonder whether Dark Pit is a fighter in this game or not as a clone or with an original move set, to wonder whether he's a alt costume or just a palette swap, but it's another thing to come up with a situation where they may have decided to have him but then they cut him when we know nothing about his standing in the game. Him being cut during development is the kind of thing you discuss after release when you have more facts to base things off of.
I would do it, because you like Saria. Sadly I do not possess the expertise.
Beelzebufo
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Peach is unlockable in one, Rosalina in the other.
SparksterMeta0
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Was this posted
Ganondorf... Ike... Lucina... Peach... and Marth?
Was plague there?
PadWarrior
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I only see alt or boss as an option for him.
I'm talking about both as a collective.
Melee had all 10 of the starters on the box, Brawl had 11 of the 13 starters on the front of the box, with the other two on the back.
Smash 4 has 14 fighters on both boxes.
Edit: holy shit ignore me im an idiot and i cant count
This would be a neat twist as long as peach isn't too much trouble to unlock.
So I was thinking about Metroid Prime's UI and how awesome it is... And then I remembered how bad Metroid Prime 2's is. Sure, the scan visor was massively improved, but this...
What the hell was Retro thinking with these orbiting menus? It's not so bad here, but in the logbook, you often have 8 or so similar options all covering each other and not letting you easily navigate to the one you want.
We should thank our lucky stars that whoever designed Prime 2's menus didn't design Smash's, because good gravy, just picking a character would be annoying.
What the hell was Retro thinking with these orbiting menus? It's not so bad here, but in the logbook, you often have 8 or so similar options all covering each other and not letting you easily navigate to the one you want.
We should thank our lucky stars that whoever designed Prime 2's menus didn't design Smash's, because good gravy, just picking a character would be annoying.
This kind of thing is what I was on about when I said minimalist. It just looks so much cleaner and pleasing to the eye.
Still best roster. The Wii U select screen is awful IMO, it's like they're trying too hard to make it badass (why a scorching sun???).
So I was thinking about Metroid Prime's UI and how awesome it is... And then I remembered how bad Metroid Prime 2's is. Sure, the scan visor was massively improved, but this...
What the hell was Retro thinking with these orbiting menus? It's not so bad here, but in the logbook, you often have 8 or so similar options all covering each other and not letting you easily navigate to the one you want.
We should thank our lucky stars that whoever designed Prime 2's menus didn't design Smash's, because good gravy, just picking a character would be annoying.
I literally just finished Echoes, like a bunch of hours ago. those orbiting logbook entries are my main gripe with the whole game. It's absurd they thought it was a good idea. I've never seen worse menus and options in my entire life.
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