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Hitbox.tv | Switch from Twitch

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AcceptableGhost

Member
Tried out hitbox. Seems alright except recordings seem to be totally fucked for me? Sometimes big chunks of the stream will be missing, or they will be split randomly.
 
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TopGun

Banned
Tried out hitbox last night and I loved it! Cosmowright was streaming F-Zero GX at a very high upload rate at 60FPS and the connection didn't stutter for me once. Twitch on the other hand stutters like mad for a ~30FPS 480p video connection.

Major pluses for me was:

-Live feed, no major delay between chat and streamer.
-Polls can be created by streamer
-Mods can upload gifs and images into the chat

I see HUGE potential in Hitbox, hopefully it can eliminate this monopoly in game streaming services that Twitch currently has.
 
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Nanashrew

Banned
TopGun said:
Tried out hitbox last night and I loved it! Cosmowright was streaming F-Zero GX at a very high upload rate at 60FPS and the connection didn't stutter for me once. Twitch on the other hand stutters like mad for a ~30FPS 480p video connection.

Major pluses for me was:

-Live feed, no major delay between chat and streamer.
-Polls can be created by streamer
-Mods can upload gifs and images into the chat

I see HUGE potential in Hitbox, hopefully it can eliminate this monopoly in game streaming services that Twitch currently has.
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Yeah, those are big pluses for me too. Also the fact that I can view any resolution and get 60fps but on Twitch I have to go source quality only and my connection is not always stable for that.
 
indigo-cyclops

indigo-cyclops

Member
Hitbox seems like a really uncluttered service so far. I really want to start streaming; but I don't think there's an audience for obscure Adventure games like Dark Seed, Hell: A Cyberpunk Thriller and Black Dahlia...Stuff that people might have missed (and stuff I've missed at times).

But I am insistent on doing it anyway!
 
P

PotionBleue

Member
MTMBStudios said:
Seems alright except recordings seem to be totally fucked for me? Sometimes big chunks of the stream will be missing, or they will be split randomly.
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I think it's because of network instability. If I set my broadcasting bitrate too high, the recording will stop rather quick, like 1 or 2 minutes in, presumably because of a gap that was considered by the website as the end of the broadcast.
By lowering the bitrate so that interruptions are short and uncommon, the recording was full.
 
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bjork

Member
I did a run of Organ Trail earlier, took about two hours to go through. Had a friend hop on and he said it was streaming just fine, but when I went to play it back, it gets 10 seconds in and stops. I'm not sure what I did wrong?
 
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Nanashrew

Banned
CFB pinned this on his Hitbox chat during his Super Metroid speed run. Seems it's a new Google document, and more accurate and up to date with 700+ speed runner accounts.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...u-ADmT-ZZw-yPk84D3_Jq5fP1I/edit#gid=424674778


Also decided to finally create an account there as well. My name is the same as my Twitter and GAF account, Nanashrew. I don't stream though, I'm just a viewer (plus I don't have the tools or hardware to stream anyway).
 
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Nokterian

Member
Nanashrew said:
CFB pinned this on his Hitbox chat during his Super Metroid speed run. Seems it's a new Google document, and more accurate and up to date with 700+ speed runner accounts.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...u-ADmT-ZZw-yPk84D3_Jq5fP1I/edit#gid=424674778


Also decided to finally create an account there as well. My name is the same as my Twitter and GAF account, Nanashrew. I don't stream though, I'm just a viewer (plus I don't have the tools or hardware to stream anyway).
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700+ to hitbox? Damn twitch really fucked it up big time.
 
N

Nanashrew

Banned
Nokterian said:
700+ to hitbox? Damn twitch really fucked it up big time.
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Yep. Though I'm worried about Cosmo, it sounds like he's starting to get overwhelmed.

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Him even testing Hitbox was dangerous for him. When asked if he could stream to both at the same time it was brought up that would be a breach of contract because he can't have duplicate content, Twitch gets the exclusives. There's a lot of legal things with some speed runners.
 
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Nokterian

Member
Nanashrew said:
Yep. Though I'm worried about Cosmo, it sounds like he's starting to get overwhelmed.

TV2Y8kZ.png


Him even testing Hitbox was dangerous for him. When asked if he could stream to both at the same time it was brought up that would be a breach of contract because he can't have duplicate content, Twitch gets the exclusives. There's a lot of legal things with some speed runners.
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Yeah he is on thin ice there and indeed he needs to step away a bit to look what is best for him. But twitch doesn't know what there doing anymore and that is even more dangerous just because they want to be bought by google by the looks of it.
 
Yoda

Yoda

Member
Nokterian said:
Yeah he is on thin ice there and indeed he needs to step away a bit to look what is best for him. But twitch doesn't know what there doing anymore and that is even more dangerous just because they want to be bought by google by the looks of it.
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Well for guys like him he has to consider the financial pain he would seemingly endure if he does choose to stick to his principles. Twitch's platform from a purely streaming point of view might certainly be on the trajectory to being inferior to competitors services, but they still command a lionshare of the viewers for streamers, which will influence the decisions of anyone in his predicament severely.

The main issue I see with guys like him switching to stick to Twitch for pulling a anti-consumer tactic like they did is that if a competitor did get on the same level as Twitch, they would be pressured to implement the similar policies. Most serious streamers won't switch because of the viewer-base, and once the viewerbase crosses a certain population threshold; the greedy assholes from the music/entertainment industry will use their lawyer to spread their paranoia into the service via content flagging algorithms (which almost are always broken/draconian)
 
N

Nanashrew

Banned
Yoda said:
Well for guys like him he has to consider the financial pain he would seemingly endure if he does choose to stick to his principles. Twitch's platform from a purely streaming point of view might certainly be on the trajectory to being inferior to competitors services, but they still command a lionshare of the viewers for streamers, which will influence the decisions of anyone in his predicament severely.

The main issue I see with guys like him switching to stick to Twitch for pulling a anti-consumer tactic like they did is that if a competitor did get on the same level as Twitch, they would be pressured to implement the similar policies. Most serious streamers won't switch because of the viewer-base, and once the viewerbase crosses a certain population threshold; the greedy assholes from the music/entertainment industry will use their lawyer to spread their paranoia into the service via content flagging algorithms (which almost are always broken/draconian)
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A rock and a hard place. It's frustrating to think about and having to abide by convoluted rules and laws that are so short-sighted. They need to be updated but that's another discussion. I see some people say "it's gotta grow more first", now, I don't blame them in saying this but we definitely need to see more support or they will die out. We really do need the competition to foster good growth and good features that improves everyone's streams and experiences.

In Phill Kollar's Polygon op-ed discusion about Twitch there's an interview with ManvsGame, he said he didn't really know of any other streaming services because they all come and go while Twitch has stayed. I could really only shake my head at that. It's not his fault, what he said is true and that's what is saddening.

Even Cosmo said on his stream that he wants Twitch to have competition and hope they Twitch will start improving and doing good things instead of dumb things.

This does not ever need to be a Youtube scenario even though it still kind of is. Youtube is the go to place for everything and the only way for someone to make it big on the internet, it's a monopoly. No one can grow but Youtube. Contracts rule the user generated content and the lives of many, and current copyright laws are old and decrepit and only serve to bully anyone in the new media of the internet.

TLDR: Everything just suuuuuuuucks.
 
K

Klyka

Banned
gngf123 said:
It works, but is currently even more rough around the edges than the Twitch app.
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That...is a feat.

I just saw someone already took "Klyka" which usually never happens ever. And he is inactive too. Sad, guess I won't be trying the site then :(
 
M

Makai

Member
Klyka said:
That...is a feat.

I just saw someone already took "Klyka" which usually never happens ever. And he is inactive too. Sad, guess I won't be trying the site then :(
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I just signed up with my username, magically. Almost never is available thanks to YuYu Hakusho.
 
B

bjork

Member
Played one of the greatest games in Hardball! history this morning. Glad it's saved for future self-highfiving.
 
P

Psycho_Mantis

Banned
A lot of my followed peeps on twitch have already moved to hitbox. Its much better than twitch. You can actually have conversations with the broadcaster!
 
W

Wii Tank

Member
Kade said:
Didn't look like there was a NeoGAF team so I went ahead and made one. If you want to join, just reply to this post with your Hitbox username. If you've got a 2000x400 image we can use as a cover that would be nice too!

http://www.hitbox.tv/team/neogaf
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Mine is WiiTank

I streamed a bit of Wonderful 101 today as a test and it looks great so far. The delay is only ~5s or less for me. Considering Twitch would lag and buffer all over the place and have a delay of 30s or more, this is a huge improvement. I'd love to try streaming some more stuff.
 
Wozzer

Wozzer

Member
Kade said:
Didn't look like there was a NeoGAF team so I went ahead and made one. If you want to join, just reply to this post with your Hitbox username. If you've got a 2000x400 image we can use as a cover that would be nice too!

http://www.hitbox.tv/team/neogaf
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Please add; www.hitbox.tv/wo33er :D

Liking what I see so far from Hitbox, though have had a few streams fail to appear in past recordings. Have setup to record locally alongside streaming, thanks to recently discovering Intel QuickSync, to avoid losing footage (added bonus of letting me record at a far higher bitrate/resolution).
 
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StayDead

Member
I started with hitbox today and my god is it miles ahead of twitch. Only about 2 seconds of broadcasting delay and the quality seems much higher.

EDIT: Would love to join the Neogaf team, you can find my stream here: http://www.hitbox.tv/Qikz
 
Predwolf

Predwolf

Member
I think the PS4 needs to get in on this Hitbox action for Playroom streams. That's one "game" where minimal viewer-server-caster chat delay times are vital to interaction. Hell, even interactive games needs minimal lag for the voting system, like Dead Nation.
 
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