Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Casting plays a large role in how fun a match can be to watch too imo.
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Casting plays a large role in how fun a match can be to watch too imo.
Casually competitive.
I'm compete in tournaments, if that makes me competitive. I usually win a couple matches then get knocked out. So I guess that's a "competitive" level.
But I'm garbage at the game, so still far from high level play.
PreyingShark
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With most games I've paid attention to on GAF it skews toward casual at the beginning of a game's life but then skews toward semi-competitive later on as the more casual players move on to the next big thing.
I don't see any indication that Smash will be different.
SUPERJEM94
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I play casual when friends are over and we just wanna have fun goofing around. And I play competitive whenever a friend wants to. So both, but I have never gone to a tournament for any Smash game.
theprodigy
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really? the Japanese tournament certainly had the highest level of play
Let's think up some fun theme matches:
"Skirt Chasers" - 3D Land - Teams - Bowser and Bowser Jr. vs. Peach and Rosalina
"Baywatch" - Tortimer's Island - Teams - Wii Fit Trainer (F) and Wii Fit Trainer (M) vs. Shulk (Swimsuit) and Zero Suit (Shorts)
"Star Wars" - Mute City - Free-For-All - Captain Falcon vs. Samus vs. Fox vs. Pikmin & Olimar
"Arcade Kings" - Pac-Maze - Free-For-All - Pac-Man vs. Mario vs. Donkey Kong vs. Little Mac (Wire Frame)
"Mechon Fight" - Gaur Plain - Teams - Shulk vs. Mega Man, R.O.B. and Samus [Xenoblade spoiler:
]
"Skirt Chasers" - 3D Land - Teams - Bowser and Bowser Jr. vs. Peach and Rosalina
"Baywatch" - Tortimer's Island - Teams - Wii Fit Trainer (F) and Wii Fit Trainer (M) vs. Shulk (Swimsuit) and Zero Suit (Shorts)
"Star Wars" - Mute City - Free-For-All - Captain Falcon vs. Samus vs. Fox vs. Pikmin & Olimar
"Arcade Kings" - Pac-Maze - Free-For-All - Pac-Man vs. Mario vs. Donkey Kong vs. Little Mac (Wire Frame)
"Mechon Fight" - Gaur Plain - Teams - Shulk vs. Mega Man, R.O.B. and Samus [Xenoblade spoiler:
She's a faced Mechon
Pacman is defiantly the biggest example of that since a few people wrote him off.
This has a nice ring to it
The Bankslammer
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oh god those battle scenario matches really take me back
theprodigy
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PadWarrior
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of, pertaining to, involving, or decided by competition :
competitive sports; a competitive examination.
2.
well suited for competition; having a feature that makes for successful competition :
a competitive price.
3.
having a strong desire to compete or to succeed.
competitive sports; a competitive examination.
2.
well suited for competition; having a feature that makes for successful competition :
a competitive price.
3.
having a strong desire to compete or to succeed.
Heath just latches on to whatever brings the most sadness to others.
I dunno, I envy his realism.
That's just cruel.
astrogamer
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Super Smash Battle Royale - Any Character but have to use Final Smashes to kill
WWS - Boxing Ring, mainly use grabs(specials that are grabs count) plus jabs and neutral air, Game & Watch can use his side tilt
So, the question then is do you have a strong desire to succeed, PadWarrior? ;P
Heath was so realistic that he continued to doubt Duck Hunt even after all evidence pointed to the leaked images being real (I.E. Shulk's official confirmation, etc)
PreyingShark
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...Okay, yeah, that happens too.or the game just skews toward dead after a while
I know, but he wasn't disappointed, was he? I'm the type of guy who wanted Bayonetta and K. Rool. He got DHD and was happy. I, on the other hand, am about to go unsatisfied, even with DLC.
PadWarrior
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Everyone here wants to win so everyone here is competitive.
Hey I want Rinko Kobayakawa so we're in the same boat
PreyingShark
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All I wanted was Charizard by himself and a Yoshi that wasn't ass so I'm good.
I get hyped dreaming up all kinds of possibilities, but I'm still 110% content with the roster. It doesn't have to be either/or. You can have your cake and eat it too!
Seriously, compared to mine, everyone's internet connection seems to be on steroids lol
I guess I can deal with it.
Well excuuuuuuse me princess.
All I wanted was Charizard by himself and a Yoshi that wasn't ass so I'm good.
I do love playing as a good Yoshi even if I would have played him regardless
seems like he's already apologising for melee shitheads
chaosblade
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And Smash 4 ones?
All I wanted was Charizard by himself and a Yoshi that wasn't ass so I'm good.
I wanted Captain Falcon to be back and not suck. I know for sure we're halfway there, and the other half isn't looking too bad yet.
Yeah, probably. Will be an awesome stage.
One wing, $5.99.
This article is two to three months early, at least.
Make predictions about the metagame when most of the world doesn't even own the game yet, brehs. And that last Melee section, even as someone who thinks people give Melee players too much shit, is embarrassing.
Zelda can basically telefrag people now? Seriously? I mean its going to take some precise long range positioning, but she can do that? I need to learn how to do that.
Awesome, I've always played her a bit teleport happy, can't hit what's over there, and there, and now there, as it were, so if that style is becoming the go-to style for Zelda, then I have a head start from Melee and Brawl.
Honestly, my biggest hope tier-wise in Smash 4 is Zelda outranking Sheik. Heck, I want Zelda to be a counterpick for Sheik. Just for vindication after basically being replaced for two games in a row.
Will do. Thanks for the link.
I need a lot of practice to get to a close to decent level, I bet, but if Zelda is as good as it seems, I'm going to go for it. At least good enough for For Glory mode.
PreyingShark
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God dammit I'm dead hahahahahahahahahahaha
sure, all those people on melee streams, just bashing the game.
ratcliffja
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DLC doesn't mean character DLC. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if we only got stage/costume DLC.
A Link to the Past
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You know, it occurred to me that the 8-count row on the CSS makes perfect sense since IC were cut - they probably planned five nine-count rows and the one five-count row, but since IC were cut, they went with this weird thing.
So there's still hope for Ice Climbers?
I want to believe!!!
if they're not included in the Wii U version already, that is
FaintColt388301
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I'm pretty new to smash. Been playing the demo like crazy trying to get to a decent level. It's been a lot of fun. I preordered the game today for a whopping 8 dollars. I love Best Buy
(GCU and reward certificates)
So they finally put up a full version of that new Mysterious Murasame Castle theme mix.
The Murasame Castle theme that kicks in @ 0:35 is so good. :')
The Murasame Castle theme that kicks in @ 0:35 is so good. :')
theprodigy
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Haha! The funny thing about this article is that even though it was written to try to make peace, it will just become another thing to throw at "opponents" in the smash community's endless mud-slinging campaign.
On the contents themselves, I think the author REALLY IS a tad too "afraid of change" in that he/she is definitely exaggerating the theoretical negatives associated with Rage and VI. Sure, games will probably last longer, but as long as the game itself is fun to play/watch, who cares?! Killing in smash 4 seems to be much more important than in any other smash game, and so it really keeps an audience on the edge of its seat during final stock, 150% vs 150% battles. On that note, we really need to stop thinking about "kill percents" as what they were in brawl and (especially) melee. The percents in this game have seen some serious inflation, and so racking up damage takes a higher precedent in this game to defensive edge-stalling like in brawl or lengthy, one-read-equals-death combos like in 64. Whether this is for better or worse is subjective.
Also, that comment about melee being "objectively better" for competitiveness is bullshit. (This is coming from someone whose favorite multiplayer game ever is melee!) The word "competitive" is so often misused as meaning "fun to spectate" when in reality it means "can be played as a test of skill."
That said, when it comes to smash 4, the most important thing for me is that the game is enjoyable to play and watch. This is still TBD, but if future tournaments are anything like the Japanese one last night, than it's all good here!
exactly, I would not think so many ssb4 players would be out there just bashing melee like that. But here we are.
IntelliHeath
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I don't think it'd kill you if you let yourself get excited and experienced some disappointment, lol.
What can I get excited for? I'm pretty much got almost all characters I wanted so I'm happy with current roster.
Dark Pit, Bowser Jr, Little Mac, Mega Man, Pac Man, Duck Hunt, Palutena, Villager, Shulk, along with newcomers that I never knew that I wanted, Robin, Wii Fit Trainer, etc.
Not just those two. Look at my list above of your quote.
I'm not going to humor the possibility of DLC because two characters there are on my wanted lists as well. Dixie and Ridley (for my friends.) I'm intrigued by Chorus Kid's potential moveset. Also I don't mind to see Mewtwo coming back as well. The rumor (even with reliable source) sound too good to be true. Like I said, I'm pleased with current roster.
Heath just latches on to whatever brings the most sadness to others.
Who did I brought sadness to? *acting dumb*
Urgh, that last point.
It really encapsulated why competitive Smashing turned into a fucking joke when Brawl came out and why I personally became completely disillusioned with the scene for almost half a decade. No matter how "better" Melee was or is, this still weighs more than anything mentioned.
I've hoped for a lot of things with Smash 4, but the one thing I've hoped for the most is that the scene won't implode on itself again.
This is what I guessed the CSS looked like with Ice Climbers. I'm also going off the assumption that Dr. Mario, Lucina, Dark Pit were all alt costumes turned into clones last minute (Lucina was confirmed but not the other two.)
Much respect to you guys. I think at the moment I don't have any full sets of custom moves you two don't have, but I'm pretty close to completing a lot of characters. I'm down to do some character write-ups.
The longer I play this game, the less satisfying matches are becoming. In a game with so many defensive options (dodging and shielding), and with edgehogging being taken away, there's no real good reason as to why it should be made harder to kill someone. I feel like I get to the move I feel is going to kill, but then it takes at least 2 more of those before it happens.
It's probably just growing pains, and we'll get better as we go. It's definitely the little piece of pessimism that's growing in the back of my head though.
It's probably just growing pains, and we'll get better as we go. It's definitely the little piece of pessimism that's growing in the back of my head though.
I can't say I really agree. While all my time with the game has been only with the demo and most of it has been confined to CPU's, I feel like I'm only really challenging myself in various circumstances the higher up I procedurally bump up the difficulty, try new characters and try to come up with new strategies. What's most exciting for me when I've played is the amount of focus I put into off-stage options. More than any other Smash game I try to follow up on opponents off-stage and it adds a large amount of exciting dynamics. The more I do it, the more interesting they become. Landing those meteor smashes are just so satisfying.
A Link to the Past
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Lucina and Dark Pit had to have been decided on relatively early on, though, since they were involved in trailers. I think Ice Climbers would have been far too deep into development to justifiably be in over DP, Lucina, and Dr. Mario; further, I don't think that the removal of Ice Climbers would have spurred Sakurai to add the clones.
I only like her with custom moves on. Jump Glide makes for some awesome Marvel-esque air dashing mixups.
Yeah maybe, though I do think Lucina/Dark Pit/Dr Mario were decided after Ice Climbers were cut. A trailer doesn't take that long to make, but character balancing and stuff does.
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