Nightengale
Member
It makes you wonder if Far Cry 4 could potentially overtake AC Unity.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
PAL Charts - Week 46, 2014
- Thread starter Bruno MB
- Start date
Bruno MB
Member
I have calculated the first week sales of Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag.
Code:
[B][Week 44, 2013] ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT) - 128,160 / NEW (90%) [Week 44, 2013] ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT) - 142,400 / NEW (100%)[/B]
[Week 45, 2013] ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT) - 47,419 (-63%)
[Week 46, 2013] ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT) - 29,874 (-37%)
[Week 47, 2013] ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT) - 66,619 (+123%)
[Week 48, 2013] ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT) - 79,277 (+19%)
[Week 49, 2013] ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT) - 67,385 (-15%)
[Week 50, 2013] ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT) - 59,299 (-12%)
[Week 51, 2013] ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT) - 113,853 (+92%)
[Week 52, 2013] ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT) - 96,775 (-15%)
[Week 01, 2014] ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT) - 48,387 (-50%)
[Week 02, 2014] ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT) - 23,226 (-52%)
[Week 03, 2014] ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT) - 16,026 (-31%)
[url=http://ukie.org.uk/news/2014/01/ukie-week-4-2014-uk-video-games-charts][Week 04, 2014] ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT) - 10,417 (-35%)[/url]
ethomaz
Banned
I'm not sure if FIFA 14 XB1 sold that much... how much Xbox One sold in UK debut? That saying that every Xbox One owner bought FIFA 14 (if I'm not wrong you have the option to choose FIFA 14 or Forza 5).
Edit - Xbox One sold 150k in first week: http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/xbox-one-sells-150k-units-in-first-week-in-uk/0124857 how much of these were FIFA 14?
Edit 2 - FIFA 14 all plataforms estimates: FIFA 14 (+328%) - 177,500
AHA-Lambda
Member
The question is why is Unity down then?
Is it all down to the reviews? I find it hard to believe it's apathy for Ubisoft style of open world gameplay when Watch Dogs sold so damn well.
Is it all down to the reviews? I find it hard to believe it's apathy for Ubisoft style of open world gameplay when Watch Dogs sold so damn well.
ninjablade
Banned
i'm not surprised at AC;unity most of the ps4/XB owners are the hardcore crowd, and the major outlets have giving it pretty average scores, along with other major releases hurting it.
SolidSnakex
Member
PES has been down so much in recent years that Konami is now in a position where they're going to have to regain trust from users.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
I feel that AC Unity news is new threadworthy for visibility if anything. Jesus.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Third on the WiiU chart.
I think Lego Batman and Lego Hobbit are the Lego games that don't seem to do that well on Wii U/Wii. Well, this is the UK, so it wouldn't have done well anyway.
But I think in NPD, games like Lego Marvel still perform well on the Wii U compared to the other current gen consoles.
Nightengale
Member
Franchise fatigue?
Marketing? (The franchise has been marketed alongside Playstation for many years, could a shift to Xbox marketing have any negative effect? )
Perception? (What if the lack of a 5 behind AC is deemed as a negative point? A spin-off title instead of a flagship numbered title )
Watch_Dogs didn't have the best reviews in the world either, yet it sold gangbusters.
True, maybe it will stick around longer once people hear PES is actually good again. Anyway, still hoping for some cheap UK prices soon. I am selfish like that.
Sickboy007
Member
Konami must be praying for exceptional word of mouth for PES, it's at the lowest I've seen in years.
Probably "bad" Reviews and bad word of mouth due to the glitches/technical perfomance.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
This pleases me. Watch Dogs should be Ubisoft's flagship franchise going forward. This is good. So much potential, and the first game was already pretty damn awesome.
Mikey Jr.
Member
I didn't buy unity because of franchise fatigue. Even if the scores were really good, I still wouldn't have bought it. I'm simply just tired of the series. Same goes for call of duty, guitar hero, etc.
After playing the same series year after, you just get tired of it. Not really a mystery here why it didn't sell well. Scores also play a factor. But at the same time, look at destiny.
After playing the same series year after, you just get tired of it. Not really a mystery here why it didn't sell well. Scores also play a factor. But at the same time, look at destiny.
Nightengale
Member
To be absolutely fair, we don't know if the marketing deal has any factor at all or not.
Let's wait to see if FC4 sells gangbustas or not.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
And Black Flag was also had the benefit of last gen...so with that logic, shall we combine Unity and Rogue sales?
(I get what you're saying, but it shouldn't be a direct comparison)
It is obvious however that the bad press may be affecting some sales
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I wonder how word of mouth will affect MCC next week.
Yeah, they are counted in the PAL charts.
I think he meant PS4 versions outselling the Xbone versions
Nightengale
Member
AC has been marketed alongside PS for so long that even taking into account bundles, it's not strange that PS4 outsells XB1 imo.
Less so for CoD, but we'll see if that's true for the US market.
ninjablade
Banned
yup it seems like 343 is really trying to really kill the franchise, how do you release halo with out the online play being functional.
In addition to that, given everything releasing this week I wouldn't be surprised to see it crash out of the top ten at least.
Sammy Samusu
Member
24 (20) 3DS TOMODACHI LIFE (NINTENDO)
30 (19) 3DS SUPER SMASH BROS. (NINTENDO)
LOL
30 (19) 3DS SUPER SMASH BROS. (NINTENDO)
LOL
Bruno MB
Member
Assassin's Creed series in the UK
First week sales: (100%)
Assassin's Creed - 179,000
Assassin's Creed II - 200,000
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood - 254,000
Assassin's Creed: Revelations - 264,000
Assassin's Creed III - 394,000
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag - 142,000
Assassin's Creed Unity - around 165,000
First week sales: (100%)
Assassin's Creed - 179,000
Assassin's Creed II - 200,000
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood - 254,000
Assassin's Creed: Revelations - 264,000
Assassin's Creed III - 394,000
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag - 142,000
Assassin's Creed Unity - around 165,000
Sho_Nuff82
Member
I think GTA 5 is going to take a bigger bite out of AC and Far Cry than Ubi would like to admit. Wouldn't be surprised if it was one of the biggest launches of the year, especially in the UK.
Trust me. I'm a PhD
Member
Wow. Why the huge drop from 3 to 4? People waiting for next gen or burned by 3?
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Amazing. Good job fellow gamers.
Is Black Flag 360 and PS3 only or PS4 and XB1 first week included?
360 and PS3 but ACU is only PS4 and X1.
AC IV numbers were only PS3/X360. If you add PS4/XB1 launch week numbers IRC it goes to 260k. Still a drop but a lesser drop compared to AC III and on par with the rest of AC games.
AC: Unity shows the bigger problem though. Of course Ubisoft will say it's a smaller userbase thus less sales.
In my opinion the sales peaked at AC III, game was terrible, people started getting fatigued of the series and thus sales have been decreasing since then. Assassin's Creed was never a franchise to be milked every year because there is a reason why GTA games are such a beast, every release feels like a special day because it happens once every 4 years. AC could have been that special if they decided to take their time but Ubisoft saw the potential to finally get their COD or FIFA and now they are on verge of seeing it fall apart.
Because sales could be far worse. Look at Ubi's most recent earnings call and you'll see they lean very Sony heavy (sales wise).
You have to consider how much wider the platform split might have been without the marketing deal. They got a pretty even result this time.
Fair enough, i think AC4s huge drop compared to 3 could be because a lot of people waited for the next gen version.
Could be far worse.
If you're Microsoft you don't want a Watch Dogs situation with too many big games.
Someone posted in the other thread, sales for ACIV on all 4 consoles during its first week of sale was 260K which apparently ACU and Rouge combined beat.
EDIT: ACIV debuted at Number 14 (X1) and Number 17(PS4). http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=722212
Many many thanks to Raist, felipeko, BishopLamont, BKK, Pranay_ and dabra for taking their time doing it every week!
Thanks to Captain Smoker, Frankfurter, test_account, donny2112 , Phife Dawg, tiong_fi, sensi97, 830920, Verve, Dash Kappei, Road, slaughterking, Loudninja, Twister Flipper, Bruno MB and jvm for their contribution.
*******************************
UK:
Originally Posted by Chart-Track:
Week 47, 2013 - Individual Formats (Units)
14 (NE) XBO ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
15 (06) 360 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
16 (09) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
17 (NE) PS4 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Doesn't AC: Rogue reuse some of the same assets (albeit at lower fidelity) as Unity (Versailles)? And one of the same maps as AC III (NYC?) They probably could have split resources and had a pretty similar launch to AC 4 combined.
Yeah, I thought so.
To make sure the competition doesn't run away with their sales.
260k seems more in line of what ACs sold before 3.
get2sammyb
Member
Also, it's about tying specific franchises to a particular platform brand. I think Sony was incredibly smart partnering with Watch Dogs and Destiny: by picking new franchises, they were able to much more successfully make them 'feel' like exclusives.
Conversely, series such as FIFA and Assassin's Creed have long been tied to the PlayStation brand, and while they may now have 'switched sides', it's going to be much harder for Microsoft to enforce them as 'Xbox games' -- particularly in Europe.
This also makes me wonder what's going to happen with Rise of the Tomb Raider - I've always felt like that's a very 'PlayStation franchise', even if recent efforts have been aligned with Microsoft.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
I think the novelty of 3 being the first game set in America caused an aberrant sales spike.
AC3 was the first time they actually went all in on the marketing. They had a bunch of articles about this with various trade sites.
AC3 (12.5 million) and AC4 (11 million) both sold really well in the end. AC4's debut was just delayed somewhat due to the next-gen split.
Nightengale
Member
Or that it's the end of a trilogy, the 'numbered flagship finale' after years of spin-offs.