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The Crew runs at native 1080p/30fps on both PS4 & Xbox One
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JordanN
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A simple question: do you think PS4 is weaker than Xbox One?
If you answered no, then you understand why a PS4 version is held back because it's being ported from XBO. There's nothing else to debate.
lolosgolos
Banned
Dude, just stop, you're embarrassing yourself now. I just posted a quote from a dev saying that they chose 30fps. You said they "couldn't" do 60fps. Which is false. Of course there are limitations on PS4, there are eventual limitations on any hardware, no matter how powerful...but what you said, and what is actually the case, are two different things.
Couldn't do 60fps with the visuals which is also true. As long as we agree there are limitations on PS4 then this argument is settled
Couldn't do 60fps with the visuals which is also true. As long as we agree there are limitations on PS4 then this argument is settled
Summer Haze
Banned
Omg...
But that isn't what you originally said. You said it couldn't do 1080p @ 60fps. Your quote:
You made zero mention about anything other than res and framerate. I gave the reason why it wasn't 60fps - which is because they chose 30fps w/extra bells and whistles - so you can't just turn around now and change your argument based on the evidence I provided and expect me not to notice, lol. What you originally said is wrong, proven by a quote from Evo themselves. Stop trying to move the goalposts, accept it, and move on.
Anyway, I'm done with this discussion. You can keep deluding yourself into thinking the reason that the PS4 version of The Crew is the same as the X1 version is because of PS4's limitations, and not because the dev actively chose not to fully utilise it and cater to the weaker console.
MMaRsu
Banned
Lol please stop you clearly have no idea what you are even saying
Teletraan1
Banned
The game is downright ugly. Not sure how they managed to get it running so poorly.
Aizu_Itsuko
Member
I didn't know Shovel Knight Adventures was published by Ubisoft.
this
lolosgolos
Banned
jimbobsmells
Member
Parity was never the goal last gen and it shouldn't be the goal in this one. Especially when it even holds back the PC version.
Please Ubi don't fuck around with the division like this. Please.
Please Ubi don't fuck around with the division like this. Please.
lolosgolos
Banned
Going by what you call my omission, it means all games can do 1080/60. Moving on
It does, I agree, but Horizon is TINY while this game seems to be quite massive in comparison.
Summer Haze
Banned
It's not what "I call" your omission, it's what you literally said (or should I say didn't say). You have quite the knack for ignoring quotes, don't you? Even when they're you're own. Lol.
And stop trying to spin the argument into something different. You said it "couldn't" do 1080p @ 60fps, implying that it is incapable, but it was in-fact "doesn't", a choice the devs made, proven by the quote I provided. You're wrong. Get over it.
Moving on? Or do you wanna dig that ditch a little deeper?
lolosgolos
Banned
Couldn't do 1080/60 on Driveclub is what I said
The Dev's vision of the game could not accommodate 60 fps. They made a compromise for visuals because the PS4 could not handle it. Would it have been better to word it like that for you?
Summer Haze
Banned
Ahahaha. You're spinning plates, and failing miserably.
You originally said it " couldn't" do 1080p @ 60fps, your omission was forgetting to mention every other graphical and technical factor that contributes towards parity (not to mention developer vision), you then changed your argument to "60fps w/ bells and whistles". Whatever you change your argument to, and whatever yo do to try and make me lose track of what you originally said, you're flat out wrong. You simply can't argue against your own quote, and the quotes from the dev that I provided.
"The Dev's vision of the game could not accommodate 60 fps. They made a compromise for visuals because the PS4 could not handle it. Would it have been better to word it like that for you?"
You're pulling the 'Oh...oh..this is what i really ment to say! ...Maybe I should have worded it like this for you?' card? Who are you trying to fool here? Seriously. If you meant it like that, you would have worded it as such. But you didn't mean it like that, and you only started acknowledging other factors besides the original duo of res and framerate and incorporating them into your argument after I presented them to you. How stupid do you think I am?
You said, plain and simply, that the game was 30fps because the PS4 couldn't run it at 60fps. That is, plain and simply, wrong.
Anyway, lets get back on topic, shall we? I want to hear more about these "PS4 limitations" that are the reason behind this parity, according to you. Please, tell me more.
SEGAvangelist
Member
I bet you end up buying it anyway.
perfectsil
Member
It's not 1080p 60 fps on ps4 because they can't get it to run at 60 fps with the same IQ, pc version is not limited to 30 fps
R3TRODYCE
Member
lolosgolos
Banned
Na Elie we good now, unless you want to talk about why The Crew is not on PS3 Lol.
Summer Haze
Banned
Lol, that's what I thought.
In a situation where the engine is built around streaming, would the overall size of the game world have any bearing on visual output? Or do you mean more in how specialized the assets are?
That's the spirit, you get it. Now if more people would be as reasonable as you and me.
PeregrinSe7en
Member
he's serious alright
first party games are gonna be the ones that showcase just how powerful the ps4 is
Yes, that's what I mean - asset variety and quality.
The amount of mental gymnastics this guy makes should earn him a medal. Moving on.
lmfao
Sorry but no. Anyone with a basic understanding of the hardware can tell you that the difference is significant and much larger than the previous gen.
The PS4 is much more powerful.
Jesus.
How developers decide to use the additional resource is up to them, but parity is not the answer.
My phone does 1080p 30fps games does that mean it's as powerful as the PS4?
Totaly a Duder
Banned
Ain't Burnout Paradise 60fps.
Well then maybe Sony needs to start sending teams over like MS did with Destiny. Allowing devs like Ubi to just underutilize the console is doing a great disservice to it.
The "issue" with parity this gen is that the console architectures are comparable, which makes porting relatively easy. For a multiplatform dev (which is still a business..) the most cost effective way to get the consoles is to port it with minimal tweaks.
Same thing happened last gen, the difference was that the architecture of the consoles was far apart, so developers had to put extra effort in the porting process and unilise some of the strengths of the architecture while they were at it.
I don't think I've ever experienced parity beeing opposed as much as this gen. It was no biggie last gen and the Xbox didn't get extra treatment Compared to PS2 either (in most cases). Let it go already.
Same thing happened last gen, the difference was that the architecture of the consoles was far apart, so developers had to put extra effort in the porting process and unilise some of the strengths of the architecture while they were at it.
I don't think I've ever experienced parity beeing opposed as much as this gen. It was no biggie last gen and the Xbox didn't get extra treatment Compared to PS2 either (in most cases). Let it go already.
Why?
They need to work on Compute and huma whilst making it very easy to implement in the dev environment.
Which they are.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
The CPU isn't but the GPU is. I think the reality is that they build for the least powerful SKU and then port it straight over.
You have no say in what they ought to do. If devs wanted, they'd release a 360p game on Ps4 (or XO for that matter). Sony's job is to give devs the environment to reach the ceiling of the PS4, not to force them to reach it if they are content with not needing to reach it.
Pjsprojects
Member
Nah, I really doubt that tbh.
neither do you.
Developers and publishers allow nvidia/amd to work with them along with ms in the past if sony wanted to do this to ensure their version was up to snuff I say more power to them. If they allow it there should be no beef with ps4 consumers getting a version with a bit more clear effort in to it.
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