OsirisBlack
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The Order 1886 at PSX - Impressions, Gameplay, etc.
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Sorry missed your post was busy playing.... will do a pretty in depth write up when I get back to my room.
backbreaker65
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Ready at Dawn’s The Order: 1886 is only a few months away from release, hitting on February 20. The game captures Ready at Dawn’s vision of Victorian Era London where man uses advanced technology to battle evil. A new trailer recently debuted at the Game Awards and we got to play an extended version here at The PlayStation Experience in Las Vegas. From kitchen wars to rappelling down the side of an airship, The Order: 1886 is a hard game to pin down, but it’s intriguing for that reason. Andrew Reiner and I share our thoughts on our hands-on demo.
Kim: We haven’t seen much of The Order: 1886 yet, which is surprising since it’s coming out in February. I’m always wondering what the game is actually going to entail. Do you feel like the demo gave you a better idea of what’s in store?
Reiner: I do. I played 45 minutes of it, and walked away both surprised and pleased by it. You are right, they haven’t shown much up until this point. I feared they were hiding something, but I now think this may be a case of Ready at Dawn being overly protective of it, and not wanting to give out story spoilers.
Kim: I’ll admit I was pleasantly surprised. The gunplay felt tight and I enjoyed getting around the chaos, finding cover, and stealing guns from enemies. I also didn’t mind the QTEs, as they didn’t feel overdone or out of place. I know people have been concerned that this will be too QTE-driven, but it seemed pretty balanced. Also, the demo we played had two different areas of the airship. One felt like a very standard battle venue, but as you go into the airship, you really get a different feel the game. One part lets you see the London vista, which looks fantastic. In another, I was fumbling around a kitchen blasting down rebels. I’m really excited to see what else the world offers. What’d you think of the gunplay and locales?
Reiner: I don’t think Anglophiles are going to get much of a historical takeaway from this experience; it looks more steampunk and fantasy than a historic piece. That said, the inner workings of the airship were impressively detailed, giving off a nice sense of scale, and of the unique technologies people use in this version of London. I especially liked the lockpick, a vibrating device that shakes the lock bolts free. The airship’s escape pods (which are just mini-hot air balloons) are also quite clever.
The gunplay felt good, and the demo gave us a nice look at both cover-based shooting and sniping. I do have to question the A.I. at this point. Many of the enemies I dropped didn’t seem to fear for their lives, and stood in the same locations as their fallen comrades. The sniping reminded me a little bit of the Hitman series. In one sequence, Galahad is on the second story, overlooking a lobby filled with passengers and military figures. He’s in hushed communication with his fellow Knights, trying to figure out of if there are any rebel threats in the crowd. The player is tasked in this moment to locate soldiers without patches on their right arms. You have to wait for them to turn around, and if their sleeves are barren of the military insignia, press a button to identify them. Once the targets are confirmed, Galahad is asked to drop them. This silenced sniping moment doesn’t exactly go as planned, and gives way to an exciting assault sequence.
Kim: Yeah, I enjoyed the frantic pacing of it all. It kept the intensity up well and areas didn’t feel like “dead weight.” Even in times when the pace dropped a bit, it was to stock on up on weapons or to engage in a QTE minigame, where you had to push both R3 and L3 at the right time to hold in the lock
Ready at Dawn’s The Order: 1886 is only a few months away from release, hitting on February 20. The game captures Ready at Dawn’s vision of Victorian Era London where man uses advanced technology to battle evil. A new trailer recently debuted at the Game Awards and we got to play an extended version here at The PlayStation Experience in Las Vegas. From kitchen wars to rappelling down the side of an airship, The Order: 1886 is a hard game to pin down, but it’s intriguing for that reason. Andrew Reiner and I share our thoughts on our hands-on demo.
Kim: We haven’t seen much of The Order: 1886 yet, which is surprising since it’s coming out in February. I’m always wondering what the game is actually going to entail. Do you feel like the demo gave you a better idea of what’s in store?
Reiner: I do. I played 45 minutes of it, and walked away both surprised and pleased by it. You are right, they haven’t shown much up until this point. I feared they were hiding something, but I now think this may be a case of Ready at Dawn being overly protective of it, and not wanting to give out story spoilers.
Kim: I’ll admit I was pleasantly surprised. The gunplay felt tight and I enjoyed getting around the chaos, finding cover, and stealing guns from enemies. I also didn’t mind the QTEs, as they didn’t feel overdone or out of place. I know people have been concerned that this will be too QTE-driven, but it seemed pretty balanced. Also, the demo we played had two different areas of the airship. One felt like a very standard battle venue, but as you go into the airship, you really get a different feel the game. One part lets you see the London vista, which looks fantastic. In another, I was fumbling around a kitchen blasting down rebels. I’m really excited to see what else the world offers. What’d you think of the gunplay and locales?
Reiner: I don’t think Anglophiles are going to get much of a historical takeaway from this experience; it looks more steampunk and fantasy than a historic piece. That said, the inner workings of the airship were impressively detailed, giving off a nice sense of scale, and of the unique technologies people use in this version of London. I especially liked the lockpick, a vibrating device that shakes the lock bolts free. The airship’s escape pods (which are just mini-hot air balloons) are also quite clever.
The gunplay felt good, and the demo gave us a nice look at both cover-based shooting and sniping. I do have to question the A.I. at this point. Many of the enemies I dropped didn’t seem to fear for their lives, and stood in the same locations as their fallen comrades. The sniping reminded me a little bit of the Hitman series. In one sequence, Galahad is on the second story, overlooking a lobby filled with passengers and military figures. He’s in hushed communication with his fellow Knights, trying to figure out of if there are any rebel threats in the crowd. The player is tasked in this moment to locate soldiers without patches on their right arms. You have to wait for them to turn around, and if their sleeves are barren of the military insignia, press a button to identify them. Once the targets are confirmed, Galahad is asked to drop them. This silenced sniping moment doesn’t exactly go as planned, and gives way to an exciting assault sequence.
Kim: Yeah, I enjoyed the frantic pacing of it all. It kept the intensity up well and areas didn’t feel like “dead weight.” Even in times when the pace dropped a bit, it was to stock on up on weapons or to engage in a QTE minigame, where you had to push both R3 and L3 at the right time to hold in the lock
Sony loves SP so much they spend da big bucks to help Street Fighter, a franchise known for its Player vs AI moments, just go search for youtube videos.
Murder. She Wrote
Member
Uncharted 2 would like a word with you.
mohsinkhan
Member
I am so hyped for this game, from its art style to the game play, its what I look for in a game.
ricen-beans
Member
I wonder if the AI is set to easy on the show floor and that's why the enemies appear dumb to game informer.
At least that's what I hope is going on. Lol
Either way, can't wait to pay the Full $60 for this game when it comes out since I don't need mp to justify my purchase. And I'll keep the game in my collection if it's good.
At least that's what I hope is going on. Lol
Either way, can't wait to pay the Full $60 for this game when it comes out since I don't need mp to justify my purchase. And I'll keep the game in my collection if it's good.
SolidSnakex
Member
ND had already laid the groundwork for the series with the original game. RaD have never made a console specific game or a multiplayer game before. So having them do both wouldn't be a good idea. Let them get their legs under them first with this.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Uncharted 2 is also a sequel. I think the point here is that for the first game in an IP you should be focusing on making the IP launch the best it can be with the strongest singleplayer possible. If the game is successful enough for The Order 2 to be greenlit, I'm sure it'll be fine for them to explore having a MP mode.
Very few games have good AI. It's going to be run of the mill, always aware canon fodder.
Murder. She Wrote
Member
Which is why I'm not really complaining about the lack of MP. Now when The Order 1887 comes out I really do hope they include MP because I want to be a werewolf!
infiniteheteroskdasticity
Member
Looks like this is now getting very positive impressions. Great to know. RaD have never shipped a bad game. Their GOW games for PSP were amazing. I'm actually happy there is no MP. I buy games for the campaigns and the lack of MP in this game is encouraging me that the campaign and story will be first rate. Some of the best games this year (Wolfenstein and Shadow Of Mordor) only have SP campaigns. The lack of a half assed MP mode didn't seem to hurt their sales or their critical reception.
loaf of bread
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I love how Andrea Pessino is such a buff gruff dude and then his twitter page is full of heart and smiley emojis.
The Last of Us would like a word with you
But I agree with you. Some developers are capable enough of delivering both a quality SP and MP in one go, but those are very few.
RAD is new in the console game and new to the shooting genre, so they have enough on their hands already. As for the game, I am looking forward to it and pleased a lot of people seem to like the demo (I am a guy that does not mind QTE's and loves TPS games).
RedAssedApe
Banned
i'd rather see campaign co-op than your usual mp tdm
ieatzombies
Member
Played about 20 min. Game looks and feels great. Love the cover system as it felt pretty seemless in and out of cover. So far the weapons feel heavy with good kickback. Still running around and will try to get more in depth later. Myself and the order weapon. http://imgur.com/izM2LrM
The Last of Us would like a word with you
But I agree with you. Some developers are capable enough of delivering both a quality SP and MP in one go, but those are very few.
RAD is new in the console game and new to the shooting genre, so they have enough on their hands already. As for the game, I am looking forward to it and pleased a lot of people seem to like the demo (I am a guy that does not mind QTE's and loves TPS games).
TLOU still wouldn't work in this context because it's still Naughty Dog's 4th game in that generation and they had slowly grown larger as a developer, whereas 1886 and Uncharted 1 were the first games to start off a generation with new tech and r&d had to be developed from scratch.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Although they're totally different games and types of MP, I guess you might argue that TLoU had the advantage still of building off the experience the devs had with TLoU. In comparison, as far as I know (I could be wrong) like you mentioned, is RAD's first AAA console title. So they're lacking experience on the console front, the console MP front, etc. They really need to build a rock-solid base for the generation before they start tinkering and adding modes.The Last of Us would like a word with you
But I agree with you. Some developers are capable enough of delivering both a quality SP and MP in one go, but those are very few.
RAD is new in the console game and new to the shooting genre, so they have enough on their hands already. As for the game, I am looking forward to it and pleased a lot of people seem to like the demo (I am a guy that does not mind QTE's and loves TPS games).
Whatever happens, I'm still looking forward to it as well.
Yeah just throw some shitty multiplayer and people will stop complaining about the lack of multiplayer.
OsirisBlack
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First thing is first I want to apologize to anyone who was in line behind me because I took my time with the demo. There is no picture or video that does this games visual justice the attention to detail is absolutely ridiculous to the point where you can see the zeppelins balloon surface bend under the weight of your character while the lapels and flaps on all of your strike teams coats blow realistically in the wind. Ropes sway realistically and slap against the side of the zeppelin as you rappel down.
There were several times when I just stood around and looked at shit instead of doing what I was supposed to be doing. The detailing in the airship is also immaculate and finely detailed. The stealth sections are pretty easy (As was the entire demo) and only require you to press a button at the right time when a circle closes in on itself. Kind of like Castlevania Lords of Shadows 2 when you are hanging from the titan at the beginning of the game. Nothing difficult but not annoying and did not detract from the pacing of the game. The area before you have to use the device is probably one of the best looking areas I have ever seen in a video game with all of the poles and pipes the geometry on display is astounding with absolutely no visible aliasing anywhere. The clouds look to be volumetric and actually seem to move .... everything is just so ridiculously fucking detailed. Talkling about the gameplay which was everyones concern
The shooting is immediate and tight as is the cover system, it does not feel like gears but it feels like a combination of TLOU and Gears cover. The guns have an actual weight and recoil to them which feels different than most shooters with recoil-less weapons. They feel good also that triple crown shotgun...... just damn. The bullet time feature is very nice and does not break the game I also like that you can still miss and the machine pistol seemed to have even more recoil during bullet time. Popping in and out of cover was effortless and intuitive I also like the fact that I could blindfire without making my entire character a target. The combat dialogue was not as invasive as it was in the stage demo and I think I heard it maybe all of 6 (maybe 10) times throughout the 35 min demo.
This is currently my game of the show and nothing else is even close. This is easily a game of the year candidate. The only gripe I had is the AI is pretty dumb hopefully difficulty settings will fix that.
There were several times when I just stood around and looked at shit instead of doing what I was supposed to be doing. The detailing in the airship is also immaculate and finely detailed. The stealth sections are pretty easy (As was the entire demo) and only require you to press a button at the right time when a circle closes in on itself. Kind of like Castlevania Lords of Shadows 2 when you are hanging from the titan at the beginning of the game. Nothing difficult but not annoying and did not detract from the pacing of the game. The area before you have to use the device is probably one of the best looking areas I have ever seen in a video game with all of the poles and pipes the geometry on display is astounding with absolutely no visible aliasing anywhere. The clouds look to be volumetric and actually seem to move .... everything is just so ridiculously fucking detailed. Talkling about the gameplay which was everyones concern
The shooting is immediate and tight as is the cover system, it does not feel like gears but it feels like a combination of TLOU and Gears cover. The guns have an actual weight and recoil to them which feels different than most shooters with recoil-less weapons. They feel good also that triple crown shotgun...... just damn. The bullet time feature is very nice and does not break the game I also like that you can still miss and the machine pistol seemed to have even more recoil during bullet time. Popping in and out of cover was effortless and intuitive I also like the fact that I could blindfire without making my entire character a target. The combat dialogue was not as invasive as it was in the stage demo and I think I heard it maybe all of 6 (maybe 10) times throughout the 35 min demo.
This is currently my game of the show and nothing else is even close. This is easily a game of the year candidate. The only gripe I had is the AI is pretty dumb hopefully difficulty settings will fix that.
not general opinion but yeah. i can't imagine if it was exclusive to ps4 or xbox lol
Excellent. I'm cautiously optimistic we may have something special here.
It'll lose points in review scores for bad multiplayer.
Nice mini review. How about A.I.? Is there difficulty level to choose?
WhiskerFrisker
Member
Very nice. I've noticed the a.i acting amateurish and dumb. Hopefully they get some pointers from TLOU team.
HORRORSHØW
Member
Where the Gaffers at with the potato-cam?
nycgamer4ever
Member
Gears had fun? I played 1 minute of gears and it bored me to death. Never went back!
nycgamer4ever
Member
Yep the whole game is just shooting up thugs in a kitchen bro.
gameoverbro
Member
I tried to use my phone but I was told not to record. I left happy playing the demo. Looking foward to it.
XxRampage07xX
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Thanks for your impressions
The Xtortionist
Member
Did you play a different demo than me? I only had the two-story fight and kitchen fight, with a brief section inbetween. No rappelling or stealth.
TrojanBlade
Member
Wow what happened to this game ... So glad to see the positive impressions from media and gamers. Hope they tighten up the gameplay and A.I. Please don't let the A.I be dumb. Biggest gripe for me in games in general these days. Pay attention to the AI Devs!!!!!
Yeah the demo had stealth.
AgentChris
Member
What a roller coaster of hype. Reminds me of Uncharted: Drake's Fortune. People ripping then loving it [closer to release] on podcasts.
TLOU still wouldn't work in this context because it's still Naughty Dog's 4th game in that generation and they had slowly grown larger as a developer, whereas 1886 and Uncharted 1 were the first games to start off a generation with new tech and r&d had to be developed from scratch.
Oh, I agree with ND already having the engine and experience. I was just being a "know-it-all" and reacted to the part saying "new ip"
I am more hyped for this than any other PS exclusive at the moment as none of the critiques so far seem to be things that will bother me the slightest (hell, I loved playing Beyond Two Souls so there goes).
That sounds very promising. Thanks for sharing.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
Looks to be shaping up nicely, but I'm going to wait till reviews come out/game comes out before I go grab it. Mainly because I'm trying to limit pre-orders. Plus, the pre-order bonus via Amazon is stupid.
Anybody think the reviews will be out release day or a week ahead?
Anybody think the reviews will be out release day or a week ahead?
nycgamer4ever
Member
Game looks beautiful and boring. Not a good combo
People keeps saying it looks boring. If you were in a situation like that kitchen with a gun and people trying to shoot you how would you react? Like seriously people there is only one thing you can do is shoot your way out!! What do you expect? It's a story driven 3rd person shooter. If you are expecting anything else then forget it and adjust your expectations. If the premise of the story is not interesting to you then the game is not for you. The last thing i want is for them to give away the story. They gave background on the story. They've shown some weapons. They've shown shooting gamelan. Graphics are fantastic. That's enough for me. If you are still not sold then wait for the game to release and read reviews.
So tire of these Order threads. Come for impressions, get hate and Gears.
I'm glad I'm one of the few who always were optimistic about this game.
Me too. Admittedly, there were some shaky times and frustrations, but I always had faith. Don't want to get too hyped about it because we've only seen a few stuff, but I'm happy for the team, and more happy that it looks like there's a good game underneath all that potential and technical wizardry.
I would really love to learn more about the melee. I feel if they nail that lycan melee combat mechanic, it will round out a very interesting gameplay package.
I also hope that the combat hinted in the E3 2013 teaser (verticality from the lycans, multiple half-breeds) turns out real well.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
MY MAN.Oh, I agree with ND already having the engine and experience. I was just being a "know-it-all" and reacted to the part saying "new ip"
I am more hyped for this than any other PS exclusive at the moment as none of the critiques so far seem to be things that will bother me the slightest (hell, I loved playing Beyond Two Souls so there goes).
OsirisBlack, thanks for that great impression!
Maninthemirror
Banned
many gamers prefer single player over MP. MP is a borefest in many games and should only be confined to games like COD and BF. This game doesnt need MP. Look at Wolfenstein, it was an amazing SP experience because they focused on SP not plastered a useless MP which takes resources away from the experience. many gamers just dont care about MP
TrojanBlade
Member
Reviews will be hate and love for this game as usual. Expecting 6-9 scores. Points will be deducted for no MP as most reviewers expect from such games which is not really fair. Also some will shit on its linearity and QTE gameplay. Hope they have replay value to counter no MP in the game though.