Net_Wrecker
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Xtortionist, is there a manual camera shoulder switch? The tight FoV combined with these tight environments where you're pressed up against a lot of right angles looks like it needs a shoulder switch option.
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The Order 1886 at PSX - Impressions, Gameplay, etc.
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Darryl M R
Member
I feel the same. I rather wait until it is cheaper, play through it for 2 weeks then return it. I will probably do this during May and once I return it I'll put money down on some other pre-orders I'm hoping will come out in 2015 (The Division, MGS V, etc)
You can peak around while on cover.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Maybe for the sequel. The first Uncharted didn't have MP.
LongDongJunon
Member
Or Bioshock Infinite. I still remember this thread : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=501274
A few comment on the first page : "YESSSSSSSSS party time", "Good, not every game needs shitty tacked on MP. ", "I'm okay with this." "A victory for gaming.", "Awesome. ", "Great news.", "Thank god. ".
And it's only the first 10 replies lol.
SuperSonic1305
Member
You say this like it's a bad thing.
Net_Wrecker
Member
That's good, but I really like shoulder switching as well. Makes moving through an environment carefully more seamless rather than having to depend on the cover mechanic for positioning every time.
BloodMoney
Banned
I don't know if you noticed, but TNO is actually quite highly regarded on GAF, and for good reason. The gunplay/story was excellent.
I don't understand this need for MP in everything. Uncharted didn't need it, TLoU didn't need it. How much better could their campaigns have been if resources weren't put towards developing MP?
It is when you're asking people to play $60 for it.
My how this thread has taken a wonderful turn once people actually got to play it...
I wonder if RAD is still not talented? Probably one of the more disrespectful things I've seen on here in some time but hey
I wonder if RAD is still not talented? Probably one of the more disrespectful things I've seen on here in some time but hey
The Xtortionist
Member
Idk, I didn't try it.
MrJonnyBigBoss
Banned
That's totally fair.
Just to elaborate on my previous point, this game is ridiculously good-looking. Like, I couldn't believe what I was looking at, and that was an old build. It just has a great style to it.
So when I say it's for graphics junkies, I hope that doesn't come off too negative. I guess what I mean is that anyone who derives entertainment from graphics may find a lot of value in it. I find myself to be part of the minority where I simply don't really care about graphics all that much. Hell, I play games on my gaming PC on Medium/High settings just so I can get way over 60 FPS. =\
LifEndz
Member
This. As with Uncharted, let them spend the first game focusing on the single player. If it's a success, and they have something they want to do in terms of MP, then let them explore that in the sequel.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Interesting that while in cover they don't cheat with the shoulder-switch like TLoU and many other games do. Those games like RE6 and such actually flip the handedness of the player character during a shoulder switch in cover. This saves a ton on special animation and camera work. They just mirror everything instead of actually animating how a right-handed person would have to position themselves to shoot from the right side of a doorway or something like that. RAD actually animated all of it. Did not take the easy way out.
I'll be really surprised if they didn't do a shoulder switch (while not in cover) since it seems like it'd be pretty easy in comparison. You just slide perspective to the other side. Nothing else changes. And I love the opposite side view sometimes when a game retains handedness during a shoulder switch... it looks pretty cool sometimes.
bananafactory
Banned
Yup. I know people love the MP in Uncharted but I honestly didn't even touch it really.
I bought the game, beat the campaign, and then put it away until I decided to play through it again. Never felt like my $60 was not justified because the experience was so good.
Surely we are not having the whole "I need MP to justify price tag" comments again. Not every game needs MP.
You shut your whore mouth. That was one of the best multiplayer titles I've ever played. So tense. So much fun.
you know, its not always about MP that makes the game great. Beside, some ppl might like MP, while others dont.
djplaeskool
Member
TLoU didn't need it per se, but what was there was excellent.
That all being said, I'll still take a solid, fully fleshed out single player experience over most MP any day of the week.
With all the supernatural stuff and steampunk-ish alternate history, The Order hits a lot of my pleasure centers, and these recent previews and impressions are very promising.
BloodMoney
Banned
Never said it was bad. Just wasn't the reason I bought the game.
LifEndz
Member
Same here. I played it once or twice, but that's about it. The single player is so good I'd rather replay that than mess around with the MP. TLOU really surprised me in how much I enjoyed that multiplayer, and that was a game where nothing about the campaign made me think I'd want to play the MP.
I wonder if this is something that "older" gamers don't care about and younger players do. I dunno if it's because I spent my childhood playing games with no online multiplayer, but I could never imagine saying a game isn't worth full MSRP because it has no MP.
Net_Wrecker
Member
I do like that they didn't simply mirror the shouldering animation in cover, don't get me wrong. I'm speaking more about moving through the environment and adjusting the camera so that you don't end up in a position where a wall is taking up your entire right hand view even though the character happens to be out in the open. It really helps to keep sight lines clear, and make everything feel smooth.
IAmRandom31
Banned
DriveClub, The Tomorrow Children, Drawn to Death, WiLD, etc. are all games that are MP / Online focused.
May want to do some homework instead of spouting hyperbole because of one title.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Impressions from people actually there don't seem to be pointing this out as much of a problem. Once again we establish that the preference between open world and linear corridors is a subjective thing, for the most part. Many of the greatest games of last generation didn't lose one bit of their ability to provide a fun experience simply because they didn't drop you in a sandbox. I think there's still room for cinematic titles that take a more linear approach to the story, and developers seem to agree.
The Xtortionist
Member
They have Temple of Osiris here...but I want to be surprised
I'll pile on and say that I don't think every damn game needs to add MP. There are studios that do this to add another feature to the back of the box (Far Cry 3) and it always feels like it was developed by the marketing department. No thanks!
If RAD wants to add co-op or can find a way to make competitive MP work well without drastically changing the game mechanics, then I'd welcome that in a sequel. For now though, I'm more than happy with a good story-driven shooter.
If RAD wants to add co-op or can find a way to make competitive MP work well without drastically changing the game mechanics, then I'd welcome that in a sequel. For now though, I'm more than happy with a good story-driven shooter.
Why?
Some of best games havn't MP.
BioShock infinite for exemple.
They've always said no MP for the order, it's not a surprise.
Strange comment from a guy that seems to be unaware of Google's existence. Do some research, chief.
PeregrinSe7en
Member
there's always negative hyperbole when it comes the order.
it's getting really tiresome
Naughty_Doge
Member
Fify
I think you should move on from this game, its seem like you already made up ur mind to not like it anyway.
It's an oversimplification, but it's one aspect of why I have always chosen PlayStation over Xbox.
The camera bias is automatically set depends on which side of opening available when the player is inside the cover.
When the player is not in cover, clicking the touchpad can switch the camera to the other shoulder...
Nonsense post. I could come in and say that you're everything that's wrong with gaming, or assume that maybe you're just broke and need MP to milk all the hours you can out of a game. But I would be forgetting the fact that everyone has their own tastes and assuming that everyone should like what I do. There are many people that are perfectly happy with a SP only experience, hence the popularity of the RPG genre. Go ahead and look at the GOTY nominees and winners and you'll see plenty of SP experiences. If you don't think games without a MP component are worth your money, then don't buy them. But please refrain from assuming that a game isn't worth that much just because you need another bullet point on a list to pull out your wallet.
Mr.Fletcher
Member
It's great to finally see this game get some good press and positive hands-on impressions. I've always believed in it and hopefully we get a good chunk of uncut show floor gameplay soon.
Better yet RAD and Sony could release some footage but that might be asking too much.
Better yet RAD and Sony could release some footage but that might be asking too much.
NullPointer
Member
Single-player-only is fine, provided it has a very meaty campaign, solid replayability, or preferably both.
The worst case scenario for me would be a relatively short and overly scripted campaign where you've done all there is to do and seen all there is to see in one play-through. Hopefully the game can offer something worth keeping it around.
The worst case scenario for me would be a relatively short and overly scripted campaign where you've done all there is to do and seen all there is to see in one play-through. Hopefully the game can offer something worth keeping it around.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Yusssss, that's what I was asking about. Every third person shooter with an offset/over the shoulder perspective needs this option.
Acquiescence
Member
I'm more than happy to pay that amount for a game with an excellent single player campaign, one in which the development team directed all their time and resources toward to ensure it was the best it could be. What I don't like paying for is a tacked-on multiplayer mode that I'll never play and only exists as a desperate attempt to prevent consumers from selling their copy of the game.
My biggest concern now that the feel of the gunplay has been getting positive impressions.
Ashad Mamood
Banned
Can't see you enjoying many games then?
TimeEffect
Member
I would have thought the same for Uncharted and Last of Us.
I don't *need* MP in a first iteration of a new IP. But it'd be cool for a sequel because it feels like the weapons and Gears-like map control would work well