Demons Soul's is more or less 35 hours and Dark souls 50.
For Bloodborne a good 45 hours would be good imo.
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Demons Soul's is more or less 35 hours and Dark souls 50.
For Bloodborne a good 45 hours would be good imo.
Lost Fragment
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It'll be half as long as Dark Souls.
Then they'll release DLC that is also half as long as Dark Souls.
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Deleted member 10571
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Since BB will be the first 'Souls' game I jump into without any videos or stuff accompanying me along the way (at least not that I planned), that's fine with me.
Still, Chalice dungeon can be incredible.
Demon's Souls is pretty easy now simply because there are so few signs.
Dark Souls also uses signs and is much harder unless you are on PC and use mods (I am not sure if those still work after the Steamworks transition but I'm sure PCgaf knows).
Dark Souls II has a ring that helps you specify a friend's sign.
It's unknown if Bloodborne will give you any tools to summon friends. The summoning method is no longer dependent on signs, you use a bell to place a passive effect on yourself that makes your world permeable to helpers.
IAmRandom31
Banned
Replayability was pretty off the charts with Demons Souls though. Due to the tendency system many people, like myself, would recreate characters over and over again trying to put together those perfect runs to get into pure white tendency or pure black tendency quickly, or put together perfect runs to unlock the Archdemons that give you items you needed for stuff.
There was a lot going on with Demons, so it was highly replayable. I probably created 25 characters in that game lol
Thanks for the reply!
Veritigo_X
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It's pretty easy in Demon's/Dark Souls (not sure about DSII). You just have to put the summon sign in a creative place so someone else doesn't come along and grab it. I've played many many hours of co-op with friends in Dark Souls. Having two PS3s and TVs side by side is the best way to play these games.
Dhruv_hanom
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I am so excited for this game!
The blog says...
...Which I guess means Bloodborne is as long as any other Souls title.
DoubleTake
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-W115ow2AE
At around 2:55 the new firearm transforms into a flamethrower and back....How? The control scheme wouldnt allow for this right? Either way into my veins.
At around 2:55 the new firearm transforms into a flamethrower and back....How? The control scheme wouldnt allow for this right? Either way into my veins.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Maybe switching ammo types?
Are there ammo types? I can't remember if they've said.
Stratosphere
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that camera work is frustrating to watch.
InfiniDragon
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...But Demon's isn't that hard. Going in blind (as in no experience with the game), I still think DS1 is the toughest of the three.
I've been replaying Demon's this past week because I wanted to try rapiers in that (used them in both Dark Souls games but surprisingly never in Demon's) and the only guy that gave me any real trouble was Maneater and the red spear guy when fighting him at the beginning, I pretty much walked over the rest of the bosses. But since I've been playing a lot of Dark Souls II prior I guess some of that is transferring over.
Looked like he switched to a wand.
DoubleTake
Member
If you look closely you can see the animation of the gun barrel unfolding.
Also different ammo types makes sense but the on the fly change it what stumped me. Maybe you can equip different ammo types in the item bar and when you use it the gun will switch to that form when fired?
Jimmyfenix
Member
What if we meet this in the Dungeon ?
What if we meet this in the Dungeon ?
That would be a surprise of some sort i guess. Maybe if variants that are on fire appear i would be more than a bit concerned and by that i mean terrified.
The entire souls series isn't hard, but Dark Souls is much easier than Demon's Souls, it gives you checkpoints before every boss fight so when you die you don't replay the level AND it refills the estus flask, if you die in Demon's Souls after using up your grass, you start at the beginning of the level with no healing items with half your health AND the world tendency goes further in the black direction. Which bosses are harder is down to your play style since even within the games people disagree on which bosses are harder than the other, but overall Dark Souls was much more forgiving & didn't punish you as much for dying as Demon's Souls.
Sanctuary
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This is how I've always seen it as well, but then you get the "Nah, Dark is much harder" people who claim that whichever game you played first will be the hardest. Dark is just so much more forgiving (which isn't the same as saying it's easy). It doesn't matter if it has "harder" bosses in general (yet Demon's still had two of the hardest), tie trek back is much less punishing. You could almost argue that world tendancy alone makes Demon's harder.
toddhunter
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The bosses in Demon's were mostly a joke, especially with magic.
However the levels are way more punishing, due in no small part to a lot more instant death falls. It was also a lot harder to make yourself completely OP.
The best test? Going through NG+. You'll breeze through Dark and barely break a sweat. Sections like 4-2 in Demon's will still have you tearing your hair out.
Hopefully the rituals will allow you to ramp things up diablo style.
littletran22
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Doomshroom
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more exciting then HM Crota?
Stuggernaut
Grandma's Chippy
Seems odd that I played the previous games backwards...
Dark Souls 2 first, loved it 250+ hours in it.
Dark Souls 1 next, loving it,still playing it, 170+ hours in it.
Demon Souls next, just started it 2 weeks ago, about 30+ hours in it. Like it a lot so far.
So far, Dark Souls 1 is my favorite. The world, the enemies, etc. all just came together really well. Dark Souls 2 is still an awesome game too and I plan a new fresh run after I finish Demon Souls.
We'll see if Demon Souls steals the title of favorite by the end. It is definitely harder (so far) for me.
Can't wait for Bloodborne.
Dark Souls 2 first, loved it 250+ hours in it.
Dark Souls 1 next, loving it,still playing it, 170+ hours in it.
Demon Souls next, just started it 2 weeks ago, about 30+ hours in it. Like it a lot so far.
So far, Dark Souls 1 is my favorite. The world, the enemies, etc. all just came together really well. Dark Souls 2 is still an awesome game too and I plan a new fresh run after I finish Demon Souls.
We'll see if Demon Souls steals the title of favorite by the end. It is definitely harder (so far) for me.
Can't wait for Bloodborne.
Poimandres
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Nah, I found Dark much harder almost certainly because I played it first. In fact, I don't think I've seen anyone claim Demon's is substantially harder than Dark who played Demon's after Dark. That alone should tell you that really getting a feel for the games is the hardest part about them!
Demon's is harder in some respects I think, but I much prefer the estus flask system which makes Dark harder in other ways.
There is probably a reason FROM is comparing Bloodborne to Demon's and not Dark, firstly it's another Sony published game and secondly it might share some lore from Demon's. My point is, I wouldn't read too much into them comparing length and difficulty with Demon's instead of Dark.
As you mention in the end going back to any souls game after having played them all is not very hard, I can just as easily walk over all the Dark Souls 1&2 bosses (perhaps with the exception of Bed of Chaos and Ancient Dragon but that is mostly because both are some of the worst designed bosses in the souls series).
Poimandres
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I think this is pretty much why they are bringing up Demon's instead of Dark. Different publishers, and Demon's was a Sony + From joint just like this game.
As for how long it is, who knows! I'm expecting the same length as Dark Souls 1 personally.
hotnheavyload
Banned
I think a lot of people who are going into BB and haven't played a Souls game should consider doing so. Bizarrely, this type of gameplay is not for everyone, although I couldn't imagine why.
SolidSnakex
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There's only one of these dungeons in the game, and it's not part of the story areas. It's there as extra content. The rest of the game is still built the same way as the Souls games.
Yeah I got that, I know the main game will be traditionally designed, what I'm talking about is that I don't know if this will be such a great idea as they're selling or if it will end just being random simple levels whose only real relation to a Souls game are the looks. Something that anyone with no idea of game design and a Souls level editor could do...
John Caboose
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Is the bundle game digital or physical?
They bring up Demon's Souls more than Dark Souls because of this:
The game's atmosphere is closer to Demon's Souls than Dark Souls, comparing it to Dark Souls makes no sense since Demon's Souls was the one that had a horror/gothic feel to it.
Pound_lb003
Member
Nah, the flamethrower is definitely on his back the entire time.
I can't decide if I want magic in Bloodborne or not, I mean, I love magic, but does it fit in with the aesthetic?
Yes, you can buy a new system for just one game. Although you could pick up The Order at the end of the month and oggle the eye candy.
This isn't Ubisoft, EA, or one of the other game companies that tricks you into giving them money, their games have always been fully fleshed out and great quality.
I just finished Demon's Souls earlier this week, being the last of the 3 I beat and I can safely say it's now my favourite. It took me longer to get into than the 2 Dark Souls games but once it clicked it really fucking clicked.
mickcenary
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I'm not at all a fan of magic in any game, so I can't say I'm bummed about its omission here, but yeah, envisioning a Bloodborne with catalysts held high and shiny orbs flying towards werewolfs and giant crows just seems a bit... Silly.
On the flipside, I can't even - and nor do I want to - imagine a Bloodborne without guns. Quite the masterstroke.
Panajev2001a
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I think there is space for both bespoke levels and randomly generated ones, but I will say that the push for having tons of levels rather than having to learn fewer levels better and take advantage of that kind of accumulated experience is unfortunately more and more common.
Necromanti
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I wonder what would make sense in the Bloodbornverse as a replacement, though. Alchemy, perhaps? I could envision a variety of poisons and substances in vials thrown at enemies for status effects.
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Deleted member 10571
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I always figured gun and ammo effects will sort of be the "magic" of this game. Poison darts, fire rounds, flamethrower etc.
DoubleTake
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Looking at it again you are correct. He's just switching between the flamethrower and the long rifle which has a fold out animation.
Necromanti
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Maybe. I've only seen the super weak guns that only stun or interrupt enemies so far, so who knows.
Blood arts seem likely all things considered.
Necromanti
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Yeah, I edited "haemomancy" out of my post because that seemed a bit more magic-esque, but I would be surprised if that wasn't in there given the blood focus. I want options.