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Konami seeking new main staff members for development of new Metal Gear series
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You don't boycott TPP. You boycott the metal gear game after that.
Castef
Banned
"People" thinks that a designer like Swery could do something unique if assigned to a big project with an adequate budget.
Also... Please, no mention of Suda.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
What if Konami now will knowingly cripple TPP to make it look like Kojima fucked up and that the ship is actually in the right hands?
GayForMaster
Banned
People are saying get swery on the phone? Fuck that man I can't believe these guys have the balls to continue the series without Kojima. I refuse to support this franchise and I am no longer buying any MGS after mgs5.
What if Konami now will knowingly cripple TPP to make it look like Kojima fucked up and that the ship is actually in the right hands?
I think $$$ trumps everything in this scenario, so Konami is going to help put out the best product so they can get back their ROI.
What if Konami now will knowingly cripple TPP to make it look like Kojima fucked up and that the ship is actually in the right hands?
It's not like they'll make any less money.
Swery is uniqueness personified, I just don't think he'd nail the gameplay design aspects.
In any case Konami will probably let a western developer handle it like Mercury Steam did with Castlevania or Ninja Theory with Devil May Cry.
a Master Ninja
Member
You're in good company, Hideo.
You're in good company, Hideo.
I can't think about more awesome pics than these.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
You dont fuck around with shit that would literally have an effect on the company stocks.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
I can't think about more awesome pics than these.
TIME FOR A C-C-C-C-C-COLLABORATION
This drama is no where on the same level as teasing if a game is real or not.
Rogue Agent
Banned
"Can't comment, hope you'll understand. Thank you." - Jordan Amaro, Designer at Kojima Productions
https://twitter.com/Jordan_Amaro/status/579091683918249984
https://twitter.com/Jordan_Amaro/status/579091683918249984
Mexen
Member
Tell me about it. It's surprising how Konami seems to be oblivious of the impact Kojima has on the industry.
That's the only positive, I guess. However, we wanted a proper departure from his MGS involvement. This feels like his hand was forced. Even if he always said that, Konami should have given him the respectful goodbye to MGS he deserves. That said, I hope he bounces back with a completely new IP or a remake of a classic such as Snatcher or ZoE.
You do realize it's entirely possible that dumping Hayter and stunt casting Keifer may very well have been one of the battles between Konami and Kojima? I wouldn't be so quick to assume that it was Kojima's decision, especially given what just happened.
And even if it was, your response is silly.
akidnamededdy
Banned
What if Konami now will knowingly cripple TPP to make it look like Kojima fucked up and that the ship is actually in the right hands?
That's dumb. All it would do is make the next metal gear game a harder sell.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Really seems to me that Konami is wanting to start pumping out Metal Gear, and they want to get ahead of Kojima's departure from the series.
And that they think they could possibly fool people without Kojima's name and KojiPro's logo plastered on V that when 6,7,etc release people will buy them after a good experience with V not noticing a major change.
And that they think they could possibly fool people without Kojima's name and KojiPro's logo plastered on V that when 6,7,etc release people will buy them after a good experience with V not noticing a major change.
I think I know why nobody would care.
Still mulling all of this over today. I'm not the hugest MGS fan, but I enjoy those games a lot. I really don't like what's happening in Japan with games right now. Japanese games are my favorite and it hurts to see so many great creators separated from their great creations.
I don't think any of those guys are Kojima-lites and to call them that is super disrespectful to the things they've done on their own. Kojima has not trademarked games having a unique style tied to the game's director.
Suda 51's games feel nothing like MGS and using him WOULD be taking the series in a new, unique direction. However, I don't think it's a good idea or that him or Swery would even want to do it. MGS belongs to Kojima. It is uniquely him. However, don't discount a different director's work just because their personality bleeds into the games they create as well. That's crap.
I don't think any of those guys are Kojima-lites and to call them that is super disrespectful to the things they've done on their own. Kojima has not trademarked games having a unique style tied to the game's director.
Suda 51's games feel nothing like MGS and using him WOULD be taking the series in a new, unique direction. However, I don't think it's a good idea or that him or Swery would even want to do it. MGS belongs to Kojima. It is uniquely him. However, don't discount a different director's work just because their personality bleeds into the games they create as well. That's crap.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
Kojima Productions' last game, Hideo Kojima's Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain, needs to be amazing so any follow up looks like an amature development.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
The good news is, the gameplay of Ground Zeroes was so good I think it'd be hard to mess it up.
You know, Raiden is an unique position of still being young yet have the body that enables him to become a larger-then-life character, thus Rising and Platinum Games making it work after 4.
Otherwise, anybody who manage to survive the Patriots may as well have their rest.
I'm saying people want those guys because they most resemble the craziness Kojima infuses into his games, and it would be a bad decision to pick them because they are so close to Kojima in terms of crazy themes and characters that they'd be constantly compared to Kojima which would be a detriment to letting their vision be judged on it's own.
I'll also be honest, I don't think either Swery or Suda51 hold a candle to Kojima when it comes to games, that's just my opinion though.
None of this matters because it's highly unlikely these high profile guys would even be drafted in by Konami since they'll want someone they can easily control and comes cheap, meaning some fly by night western dev that does it simply for a quick paycheck.
Seeing Silent Hill die that way was bad enough, I'm really not prepared to see Metal Gear go down the same route.
The next MGS game made by Konami, no matter who they get to do it (internal or external), will be compared to Kojima's games.
That's honestly how I'm taking this news, MGS4 tied up the series and he really stuck around longer than he should have. Whether he's doing games or whatever else, he's a talented guy and I'm looking forward to seeing him doing something different. I highly doubt the guy is going to have trouble finding work. Konami is screwed if they aren't extra careful with who they hire, it's going to take A LOT to match up to Kojima. They can't take their hiring process lightly if they want to survive in the form they're in now.
Just wondering why people are so keen on dismissing a new metal gear without Kojima as Director. The reason I'm wondering this is because Kojima has wanted to pass the Series on too his younger staff so he could move on to other things. The only diffrence is he won't be there for guidance and support. It's always been inevitable that the Metal Gear series would be directed by someone else, the only reason people are upset is because Kojima won't be working for Konami now. Don't get me wrong, I'm upset too but only because of how Konami is treating his legacy.
Fans wouldn't mind a producer or supervisory role from Kojima. Any sort of blessing from him would be fine. People are dismissing the Metal Gear after 5 because it seems like Konami pulled this out of Kojima's hands and decided to put the series in a factory to crank out games.
Gambit 1138
Banned
Wow they are really going threw with this huh?
This might be the beginning of the end of Konsmi unless they magically get very talented people involved and give them the time they need
This might be the beginning of the end of Konsmi unless they magically get very talented people involved and give them the time they need
Well, people would've most likely dismissed Metal Gear games after 5 even if Kojima and Konami separated on good terms. Historically, any MG game that didn't have Kojima as a head developer turned out very subpar.
I'll probably watch trailers for future Metal Gear games and maybe Redbox them but I won't invest nearly anything in them compared to what I did for the Metal Gear saga as Kojima defines it.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
The big elephant in the room is that the people they need might not want to work for them. Not in today's Konami.
SJRB
Gold Member
I'm happy for Kojima that he is finally free of Konami's deathgrip, after all these years he can finally do whatever he wants just like he's been craving for quite a while now.
However, the way Konami is pissing on his legacy by erasing his name from the games deeply disgusts me. Added to that is the fact that his team [especially with all senior staff gone] is simply not skilled enough to make a good Metal Gear game. Kojima tried for a brief moment with MGS3 and it didn't work. He was forced to make MGS4 because his staff couldn't get it right. Rising turned out a catastrophic failure for which Kojima himself had to deeply apologize and seek the help of Platinum Games' Mikami to make an actual game. For better or worse, Kojima and Shinkawa are crucial parts of the franchise, the cole pillars. Whitout them, there is nothing.
So yeah, I have zero faith in the franchise going forward in any meaningful way. Which, after almost 30 years, is pretty harrowing to witness.
You will find plenty of Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops, MGS Ghost Babel and Metal Gear Acid fans. I even found Portable Ops significantly better than Peace Walker. These games proves that Kojima doesn't need to be the director of these games. If you are specifically referring to sales and mainstream appeal, these games specifically weren't numbered sequels because they are so experimental and were never going to have the marketing budget of a mainline Metal Gear game.
I was actually looking forward to a mainline Metal Gear game directed by Shuyo Murata and produced by Kojima. If Murata is still at Konami to make the next Metal Gear or Zone of the Enders, that would be a little bit of silver lining.
At least Kojima's laid the foundations for solid new MG games with MGSV's aesthetic/technical/gameplay qualities. I have a friend who enjoyed GZ despite never playing the series before and not knowing what was going on in the story.
(There's an easy prequel to be made featuring The Boss with Cobra buddies, in open WW2 maps in a state of conflict like in MGS4.)
(There's an easy prequel to be made featuring The Boss with Cobra buddies, in open WW2 maps in a state of conflict like in MGS4.)
Bright-Light
Member
You're in good company, Hideo.
What the fuck is going on with his finger?
SJRB
Gold Member
It's just bended, that thumb casts a shadow that makes it look disfigured haha
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I can't think about more awesome pics than these.
Kamiya, Kojima, Itsuno (???), Mikami right...who's the guy in the black shirt?
I can't think about more awesome pics than these.
wow all the major capcom guys in one pic
Gun Animal
Member
One Boss game is enough, thanks. WWII covers one game, but what would she be doing in the 50's that's interesting enough to deserve a game? I'd like to see the chronology filled out with interquels, honestly. A Solid Snake game set in between MGS1 and MGS2 could show us what Philanthropy was like before the Tanker incident and cover the mass production of Metal Gears by multiple nations. A Raiden game between MGS2 and MGS4 would still be cool as well.
If Konami really wants to cash in, they could do an AC: Rogue style sequel and reuse MGSV's locations to tell Liquid and Solidus' stories. Now that we're in a "death of the author" scenario, the possibilities for running this shit into the ground are endless.
I fear a yearly MGS :/
I hoping with the standard that MGS V will set, it will make a year MGS impossible due to the fact that there is too much in MGSV to make it in a year
Ive been an MGS fan when i first played it on my PS1, its one of the greatest gaming series created, and its been made possible by Kojima.
I think future MGS games without his input wont be the same
I hoping with the standard that MGS V will set, it will make a year MGS impossible due to the fact that there is too much in MGSV to make it in a year
Ive been an MGS fan when i first played it on my PS1, its one of the greatest gaming series created, and its been made possible by Kojima.
I think future MGS games without his input wont be the same
Haunted
Member
Time to bring out the classics eh
Henshin a go-go , baby.
That's not Itsuno, that's Minami, president of PG.
ShogunDarius
Member
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Remake after remake, confirmed.