Well, a quick google tells me Namco registered the trademark.
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Bloodborne sold through more than 1 million units worldwide as of April 5
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Well, a quick google tells me Namco registered the trademark.
Reallink
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Blockbusters these days do 7-10+ million units. The Tomb Raider reboot at 3.5 million units was considered somewhat of a failure by SE, missing it's sales goals surrounding launch. Only though the remaster re-release and aggressive discounts did it become a relative success. It'd be great if BB did 6 or 7 million units, but it's not a game everyone can play or enjoy. I suspect it's sales are going to be disproportionately front loaded and its legs dubious. It's enjoying great release timing and reviews which the super core are eating up. I don't know if there's much of a market beyond them.
nabe_shogun
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Those are some good sales numbers in a short time. Well deserved as its a good game.
I guess you could say that PS4 owners were bloodborne starved beasts.
I'll see myself out.
I guess you could say that PS4 owners were bloodborne starved beasts.
I'll see myself out.
XxRampage07xX
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Yes, in Europe and the US. But the game was published by From in Japan ... I'm curious if we could see a PS4 only Dark Souls ...
I'm pretty sure the Souls games have historically had long tails.
Ghost Slayer
Member
Eh?
I guess you mean Demon's Souls is owned by From?
In trademark, owner of Dark Souls IP is FROM
In JP, FROM published Dark Souls 1, 2.
ProfessorMoran
Member
Demon's Souls is owned by Sony.Eh?
I guess you mean Demon's Souls is owned by From?
Joei
Member
Anecdotally, I know 2 people who bought the game, a friend who is easily frustrated and quit Demon's Souls after about a half hour cause he thought it was "gay" and "too hard," and my nephew, who never played a Souls game and plays the typically teenage games, ala, CoD. And both like the game a lot. Me, a guy whose played though Demon's Souls and Dark Souls countless times and loves the series, has yet to buy it since I'm finishing Final Fantasy Type 0 :/
Oh, okay. I missed that part. In that case I think I'll lean towards it being owned by From.
So Gears of War & God of War are not blockbusters? Mario Kart & Super Smash are not blockbusters?
By you measure, the only exclusives that are blockbuster are Halo, Uncharted, The Last of Us, Gran Turismo, & Pokemon.
By your measure also, multiplats like Resident Evil, Mass Effect, and Metal Gear aren't either.
SappYoda
Member
Even if the IP is owned by the company, that does not mean that the creators own it. If Kojima finally leaves, Konami will be the one that benefits from the Metal Gear IP.
My brother got annoyed with Demon's Souls, that's why he wasn't interested in Bloodborne. Is the play style so much different?
Don't be curious because it's like being curious if FIFA is going to be PC exclusive.
Dark Souls as an IP was created to be multiplatform.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
As the Honest Trailers said- This is the game that tricked people who hated Dark Souls into playing Dark Souls.
Icyflamez96
Member
LMAO
IP ownership can pay in divident of it happens to become Transmedia.
Example, imagine if SO got a TV show...the profits would go to Insomniac.
Conversely, there's a movie coming out for Insomiacs Ratchet & Clank games but it is Sony who will rake the profits.
KojiPro is owned by Konami.
Ted Price and Insomniac are fully independent. They don't have to worry about the IP they created and own to be snatched away.
lol
Or the losses in this case because no way is R & C going to do well.
Can confirm. :lol
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Wonder how the Kadokawa purchase of FROM will play into this going forward. I figure the Bloodborne and Dark Souls II contracts were made before the Kadokawa transaction took place.
travisbickle
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There's a movie of R&C because it's a Sony IP. But who knows maybe we'll see a Sunset Overdrive movie after a number of sequels over different generations are released.
Poimandres
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Where's that guy who is super psyched for R&C and thinks it's going to be one of the biggest games of this year?
I'm quite looking forward to it and see no reason why it's going to fail
Where's that guy who is super psyched for R&C and thinks it's going to be one of the biggest games of this year?
I'm quite looking forward to it and see no reason why it's going to fail
No the game will do well. For some reason I thought we were talking about the movie.
And? Are you implying it's because they have a studio?
There's a Transmedia offensive movement for Youkai Watch (anime, toys, IOS games, you name it) by Level-5. Nintendo's the platform owner but who do you think gets the lion's share?
The_Buttman
Banned
...devs could learn a few things from BB about what people want out of a game.
Of course, this makes sense to me, since it would alienate a whole lot of PC players and everything - it would definitely not be a smart idea in a business sense. But if From was out of money and Sony jumped in to help ...
wapplew
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Fromsoft gave us plenty option to customize messenger yet they gave us zero option to customize our doll.
Gehrman told us we can do anything to the doll...I want to let her wear school uniforms.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
>.< it was late alright
825k+ in the West
hmm 400k NPD may not be as unlikely as we once thought.
wapplew
Member
>.< it was late alright
825k+ in the West
hmm 400k NPD may not be as unlikely as we once thought.
You need to take digital sales, EU, Asia and Middle East market into consideration.
Lol, that's clever.
The OP says it's both disc and PSN versions of the game
They're going with the publisher that has confidence in their game and that wants the fund/publish their game, that's it.
If say both Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios and Microsoft Studios are interested in Insomniac Games' pitch, but Sony Computer Entertainment asks ownership of the IP in exchange for taking the financial risk of funding game, while Microsoft Studios does the same thing, but lets Insomniac Games retain ownership of the Sunset Overdrive IP, then it's obvious that they'd go to Microsoft Studios.
Regardless of how the game performances commercially in the end, Insomniac Games already gets paid for developing the game. Yes, they might get royalties on top of that or bonuses if the game is received very well and is a big commercial success.
But in the end the platform, PS4 or XB1 is not that big of a factor. They get paid for making the game. They want to get a contract with the publisher that wants to fund their game. Ideally they just want their game to be played by as many people as possible on top of that and possibly and continue to generate revenue from royalties and bonuses if the game is a success.
To have 100% creative control over their IP's, to be able to control their own destiny, to be able to generate more royalties from games that use their IP etc. Or say if they make a movie of the IP, they get more revenue that way as well etc. It can give more long-term financial independent to the studio if they create a succesful IP and in turn they can have more creative control.
Who says EA Partners was interested in publishing their game again after having published FUSE already which turned out to be a big commercial flop?
No. The first priority for a large independent developer like Insomniac Games, Platinum Games or Avalanche Studios is to get publisher contracts in the first place.
The financial investment comes from the publisher in that case, not from the developer itself. Whether the game turns out to be a financial success or not is mostly a concern for the publisher and not for the developer, because the publisher is the one that makes the financial investment. The publisher is basically taken the financial risk, but also reaping most of the rewards if the risk pays off and the game is a commercial succes.
Of course financial success is also important for the developer to a degree, because it can determine whether they get a contract again from another publisher and it can also generate more royalties/bonuses depending on the contract.
It reminds of Immediate Music's Lacrimosa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHPYOcgde98
Probably not. That's not how the publishing model works.
Exactly. Thank you Icyflamez96.
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That can't be real...
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Lol
Joke post? Bloodborne is an entry into a series that has been known for being niche. FS makes these games with a certain budget and goal in mind. No way that FS/Kadokawa/Sony expect this game to sell 7-10 million, and no game has to sell that many to be considered a "blockbuster" outside of bloated AAA developed games by the mega-publishers. This post is a step away from going, "Well if it didn't release in a time when it did, it probably wouldn't have sold at all hyuck."
Isn't it also as good as dead? It is been a year since Titanfall. The year before that, Fuse was the only thing they did.
Square Triangle
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What do you mean? The movie could have been created exactly in the same way if Insomniac Studios owned Ratchet & Clank.
Sony Pictures Animation isn't the animation studio that is making the film or something. Columbia Pictures or TriStar Pictures or another Sony Pictures Entertainment subsidiary film production/distribution studio isn't producing or/and distributing the film.
- Rainmaker Entertainment is doing the animation/CGI
- Blockade Entertainment is funding/producing the film
- Cinema Management Group + other distributors internationally are distributing the film
- Insomniac Games and SCE are overseeing the film
Sony Pictures Home Entertainment will be distributing the DVD/Blu-ray Disc release, but outside of that, Sony Pictures has zero affiliation with film.
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John Bender
Banned
lol.... Tomb Raider had a massive budget (production costs), a very big team, high marketing costs, is a well-know IP, etc.
btw. the game was in development for 34893849 years!
Therefore -> 3.5 million was a failure for S-E.
3 million for Bloodborne will be super successful (which will be the LTD number in the end imho).
Stop comparing apples and oranges.