DAREALGUMMY
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As someone who didn't have the PS4 on my radar until 2016, I'm so glad I played P.T. on friends' consoles and then when I ended up getting a PS4 anyways, I grabbed it last minute.
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PT no longer downloadable in US (and EU/UK) even with license
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superNESjoe
Member
Quote it.
Shift Breaker
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Theonik
Member
Got the json?
Doctor_Thomas
Member
Oh dear....
Metalingus5150
Member
What's the difference?
Bluforce
Member
That was really "a shadowy flight into the dangerous world of a man who does not exist".
Theonik
Member
json is the metadata that came with the file.
Metalingus5150
Member
thanks
benicillin
Banned
*twilight zone music*
God the animation was good. Can't believe they're trying to erase it.
see:
LOL
yeah i did that and its done downloading. What do i do with the file?
AmethystEnd
Member
I have the game on my ps4 downloaded and playable but I'm paranoid shit will go down so I'm going to download this as well. Highly appreciated.
Lock it up in a vault.
Andrefpvs
Member
If you get P.T.S.D. because of P.T. can you call it P.T.P.T.S.D.?
IdreamofHIME
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Daffy Duck
Member
This was such a great experience, doesn't deserve to die like this.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Version 3.0
Member
I wonder if we can still shareplay it. Going to test tonight.
Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
Jane Mansfield
Banned
I'm seeing Craigslist ad posts that are selling PS4's with P.T. for $500 to $1500. Good luck to those sellers, I guess.
The all digital future statuesque is not to be slept on.
Theonik
Member
Will Konami really stop at nothing at this point?!
Yep, it's bullshit. There's no difference between a digital license acquired for $0, $0.01, $1.00, or $100 - they all grant the same rights to access content. You don't understand the basics of what's being discussed.
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Deleted member 126221
Unconfirmed Member
This doesn't make sense at all.
Neuromancer
Member
Especially when we were not informed when we acquired the license that we wouldn't be able to downloaded it again after a certain date.
Version 3.0
Member
They do, indeed. That's the scary part. Konami isn't breaking any laws, because consumer rights laws are too old to have language to deal with concepts like re-downloading a purchase.
They most likely can de-list anything they want, legally, at any time. They just don't because there's little reason for them to do so.
Get ready, folks, because eventually these companies will decide they don't need to keep hosting PS3/360/Wii era games for re-download, either. I'm just afraid that too few people will care to make a difference.
scoobidoo112
Member
Wouldn't that just encourage piracy? I couldn't imagine a worse way to piss off your customers.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Just like this issue with P.T. has people literally praying for pirates to hack a PS4 and make the game available to others, while infuriating everyone who wants to play the game or people, like me, that are strong advocates for game preservation.
Holy shit, that Facebook page has the most hilarious replies to random facebook shit-posting.
I'm loving this.
People who read to the letter and say the "license" is "purchased" and therefor expect for them to download PT indefinitly, should also realize that in this case the license never gets revoked... In fact only the means to reaquire PT is removed. If I buy a game on disc, and it gets scratched up, I stil have a licesense, only my way to reinstall the game is lost. No retailer, publisher or dev is going to give me a free new gamedisc and if the disc is OOP, I will have to resort to the 2nd hand market. In that way PT is no different. Konami no longer sees putting up a free download of a game that is not coming out, profitable. This makes business sense. Konami also showed in previous weeks they do not care to much for there gaming audience. Looking at the latest earnings report, this still makes some sense, as bigger cash flows are coming from elsewhere in the company.
People afraid of this setting a bad precedent should stay far away from spending any money on digitall stuff. Expecting purchases to be availabe indefinitly, although not being undesirable, is unrealistic. I do not think you should expect from business, whose main goals are to make profit, to show support -even with consumer backlash taken into account- beyond economic viabilty. It's not their faults, it's the larger problem of copyrights on digital content(and physical for that matter).
Long story short:
- Yes it's shitty
- It's to be expected
- It's neither Konami nor Sony's fault
- It's not bad precedent, this future is inevitable
People afraid of this setting a bad precedent should stay far away from spending any money on digitall stuff. Expecting purchases to be availabe indefinitly, although not being undesirable, is unrealistic. I do not think you should expect from business, whose main goals are to make profit, to show support -even with consumer backlash taken into account- beyond economic viabilty. It's not their faults, it's the larger problem of copyrights on digital content(and physical for that matter).
Long story short:
- Yes it's shitty
- It's to be expected
- It's neither Konami nor Sony's fault
- It's not bad precedent, this future is inevitable
Well, guess what? Reality backs me up. Sorry! I know you wish life was different, but them's the breaks.
soul creator
Member
Konami going for first place in the 2015 Petty Awards
Source for this? because I doubt that cost highly.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
Was a bit bored. Decided to mess around with GIMP.
Version 3.0
Member
Not if you wait long enough. I'm sure they'll apply what they consider a reasonable logic to it: once downloads drop to a certain level, they'll determine that it's no longer necessary to host. Not enough people will care.
Version 3.0
Member
As in every case with digital media, this is not the issue. The issue is always DRM. If we had the ability to make backups, within reason, then there wouldn't be any problem at all. People would only have themselves to blame if there was a better way to keep your purchases than "cleaning out the fridge".
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Deleted member 126221
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I... uh... think you're really missing the point of what's being discussed here. Reality doesn't "back you up" in any way; a digital license is the same no matter how much you paid for it.
lazybones18
Banned
*twilight zone music*
she coming for the D >.<
You CAN make backups though?
Edit: also been giving this thing a lot of thought recently, more than in my post but I can not form it into anything more coherent... Totally did not look at it from the DRM side of things, more from the cost side... Feel a bit silly now as I usually support drm free alternatives.
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