Banjo-Kazooie
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Meh, if it's XCOM then color me disappointed
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2K teasing Advent on Twitter. BioShock? XCOM? New IP? [Up: Looking like XCOM]
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Fragamemnon
Member
A new XCOM might be relevant to my interests. I wish they had just remade the original with more mod support, more customization, more simulation features, and more randomness, i.e. I'm glad someone made Long War.
I am currently on course for around 3,500-4,000 hours or so played of XCOM:EU/EW by the time this might come out though.
It will be interesting to see just how much Firaxis can meld their boardgame ruleset ethos with simulation features in a new game.
edit: Firaxis has really never made a "AAA" game in terms of collective manpower required . It's usually been "AA", and they've been able to balance that out well by having relatively smaller teams and a fanbase that is A-OK with old-school style expansion packs. AAA would be a big jump for them and I'm not sure if that would be a good thing in the long run.
edit 2: Please oh please get Michael McCann back for another soundtrack if possible. The tracks he made for EU were god tier.
I am currently on course for around 3,500-4,000 hours or so played of XCOM:EU/EW by the time this might come out though.
It will be interesting to see just how much Firaxis can meld their boardgame ruleset ethos with simulation features in a new game.
edit: Firaxis has really never made a "AAA" game in terms of collective manpower required . It's usually been "AA", and they've been able to balance that out well by having relatively smaller teams and a fanbase that is A-OK with old-school style expansion packs. AAA would be a big jump for them and I'm not sure if that would be a good thing in the long run.
edit 2: Please oh please get Michael McCann back for another soundtrack if possible. The tracks he made for EU were god tier.
I wanted a new IP.
Seems like a lot of us guessed right.
Indeed. Looking at this old screenshot of my endgame team made me feel all nostalgic
Poodlestrike
Banned
New XCOM, yusssss!
Wish list time:
Vehicles
Bigger squads
Better interceptor mechanics (something Steambirds-esque would be amazing)
Wider tech tree
More loadout options
Mod support
PCand new Gen only (probably gonna be UE4, so that might be a lock already)
Wish list time:
Vehicles
Bigger squads
Better interceptor mechanics (something Steambirds-esque would be amazing)
Wider tech tree
More loadout options
Mod support
PCand new Gen only (probably gonna be UE4, so that might be a lock already)
BronsonLee
Member
Definitely all of this.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Duck, nothin'So lets talk about what new features the new XCOM should ha-
Oh. Well. Thanks duck
Solid Samus
Banned
I'm super duper ultra glad this is shaping up to be an XCOM game. Enemy Unknown/Within is one of my favorite games last generation, super addictive.
https://downloads.2kgames.com/adventfuture/images/en/Advent-Introduction.mp3
Audio file from the webpage, that music definitely has an xcom geoscape vibe to it! Keeping my fingers crossed
Audio file from the webpage, that music definitely has an xcom geoscape vibe to it! Keeping my fingers crossed
Seriously though, this is such a great turn around for this thread. Yesterday I was reading it and every post was getting more and more depressing as the possibility of a Bioshock themed open world shooter in the modern world was being explored, developed by a studio I had never heard of.
Now it turns out it's just XCOM! YAY!!!
Now it turns out it's just XCOM! YAY!!!
Yes yes yes so glad it ain't Bioshock, for me that series needs time to breathe
But X-COM EU is ripe for a fully fledged sequel. They have a brilliant core game in place but so many aspects of that game can be built upon.
More variety, deeper tech, vehicles, sniper not OP(although the little i've played of EW seem to have fixed that), more ways to diversify your squad. Sure people can think of more than I can.
Man with Invisible Inc and X-COM sure are seeing a nice wee revival of this type of game. And it's great.
But X-COM EU is ripe for a fully fledged sequel. They have a brilliant core game in place but so many aspects of that game can be built upon.
More variety, deeper tech, vehicles, sniper not OP(although the little i've played of EW seem to have fixed that), more ways to diversify your squad. Sure people can think of more than I can.
Man with Invisible Inc and X-COM sure are seeing a nice wee revival of this type of game. And it's great.
If it's going to be more CQC-focused, I hope they add actual rappelling. I found it amusing to watch Beaglerush making rappelling noises when his dudes were just jumping off the ledge.
Other than that, I trust they've learned a lot from the Long War mod and will bring over some of its elements.
Other than that, I trust they've learned a lot from the Long War mod and will bring over some of its elements.
renegade_dewitt
Member
https://downloads.2kgames.com/adventfuture/images/en/Advent-Introduction.mp3
Audio file from the webpage, that music definitely has an xcom geoscape vibe to it! Keeping my fingers crossed
How strange it would be that despite all of this evidence are piling up in favor of XCOM that 2K announces a completely different type of game for Advent....still holding out hope for something else.
Im the opposite.
Damn I would have loved a futuristic Bioshock(That isn't SystemShock)
inb4 FPS Xcom
Hades Hotgun
Banned
Yeah, nothing about a game with the Bioshock name thrown on it seemed appealing to me. But a new XCOM makes this a game I can't wait to see at E3.
TimeEffect
Member
Why was the base game so vanilla anyway?
Incompetence? New, mainstream direction? Lack of time or resources?
I loved the game, but the mod seemed to add so much that I dont think the devs would have wber considered for fear of being too hardcore. Yet those features would make the base game really special in its scope and depth.
The long war mod seems to add things that I would think would make the game too complicated in the eyes of devs. I feel the options to customize your game to the degree of the long war mod really helped give that game legs for faithful fans, but is the goal to make a game that is more accessible first, is it due to devs not thinking of these mod ideas, or is it a matter of resources?
BronsonLee
Member
Vita port would be tits, but we'll see about all that. I doubt it.
And yeah guys, I doubt they're going to sneakily launch something else I.E what you wanted. All signs point to XCOM.
Shake Appeal
Member
Maybe all of the above? I should stress I love the vanilla game, even as I can recognize all the ways it falls short.
I can only guess that it was a very hard sell internally ("hey, we want to resurrect this forgotten turn-based, short-on-story isometric franchise that only hardcore PC players ever played"), and I don't think it was considered a AAA title, more of a side project. They may have more freedom with it this time.
Oh man, if it's a new XCOM I'll be very happy. I fucking loved Enemy Unknown.
Can't wait for the full reveal. Wonder if it'll be a direct sequel or something different. Too bad it doesn't look like they're going with a Terror from the Deep theme, though. Having never played the originals, I was kind of hoping for that. It seemed like a really cool setting.
Can't wait for the full reveal. Wonder if it'll be a direct sequel or something different. Too bad it doesn't look like they're going with a Terror from the Deep theme, though. Having never played the originals, I was kind of hoping for that. It seemed like a really cool setting.
This was rated in Brazil or something. I can't remember exactly how, but it's essentially a foregone conclusion this is being announced at E3. I wanna say it was under the name "XCOM: Enemy Within+"? This is almost guaranteed to be coming.
TC McQueen
Member
Well, if it's XCOM, I hope it isn't limited to only one city. It would be a big step back in scope, even if it's something Apocalypse did.
For everybody disappointed by a lack of Terror From the Deep, Jake Solomon (who is probably involved in this somehow) hates it for being a cheap reskin with absurd difficulty.
For everybody disappointed by a lack of Terror From the Deep, Jake Solomon (who is probably involved in this somehow) hates it for being a cheap reskin with absurd difficulty.
Yeah, you're right. It's called "XCOM Enemy Unknown Plus", and it's been updated in the last year. They also rated Civ Rev 2+.
Fragamemnon
Member
The base game got the core gameplay loop down better than almost anything else in the entire generation of games. It is easily the slickest strategy game ever made. Its ruleset was simple and approachable, without a lot of exception to the rules and corner cases "bogging" things down or making encounters that would cause people to just quit the game in frustration.
The tradeoff for that clean ruleset and tight gameplay loop was that a lot of the "chrome" that gives flavor to the game was somewhat lacking. That's a reasonable tradeoff to make, but the real issue was that they didn't leave much in the way of editing tools so that PC players looking for a "next level" sort of experience could build one easily.
Thankfully, two fearless people did take up the challenge and Long War makes XCOM one of the best strategy games ever made.
Just don't get too excited for Civ Rev 2, unless it's significantly different from the mobile version. That game is pretty bad.
TheMrPliskin
Member
Really happy that this is shaping up to be a new xcom.
Fragamemnon
Member
Most people were unhappy with the lack of randomized maps but between engine constraints and the shit sandwich consoles the game also ran on it just wasn't happening.
I thought Enemy Within added a lot to the base game. There's a lot of new maps and you can also install Long War which strives for non-deterministic outcomes in all of the game's systems.
TC McQueen
Member
I wouldn't mind randomized maps, but 3D procedural generation and destructibility are hard to get right on their own, never mind in conjunction, especially in a franchise where accidentally or intentionally blowing through walls to get to aliens is a thing.
My problem with XCOM was the lack of flavor and flair. The core strategy was solid enough, with the exception of exposed aliens moving on your turn, which discouraged aggressive play (iono about Enemy Within). I'd take a sequel without too many new gameplay additions if they only gave it more personality.
What if its called XCom, but what you described. The horror.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Not gonna happen
As a console player, XCOM is really one of the only serious strategy games I've ever played. What's wrong with the way it handles it? I always felt like it was pretty effective for what it was aiming for.
afternoon delight
Member
If it's XCOM, please oh please oh please actually get some procedural generation in there. Or proper mod support.
Both were touted to a degree beforehand and then ignoooooored at every turn post-release.
Both were touted to a degree beforehand and then ignoooooored at every turn post-release.
Mushroomer25
Member
Bleh. I wanted Sci-FioShock.
Hopefully this is still impressive. XCOM just does nothing for me.
Hopefully this is still impressive. XCOM just does nothing for me.
bonesmccoy
Banned
If this is a new XCOM game (and dammit, it had better be), my guess is that EXALT wasn't destroyed and ended up making some big plays after you take down the Temple Ship.
From the XCOM wikia:
From the XCOM wikia:
TheJollyCorner
Member
Me too.
I'd be bummed if they jump over TftD and move right to an Apocalypse re-boot. :{
Wouldn't be bummed too long, though- I just want some more X-Com like Enemy Unknown.