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Splatoon | Review Thread
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Hold off there shooter, I'm not wishing ill will on this game. Just making a comment.
test_account
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The reviewer is probably only speaking for him/herself, which makes it a subjective thing.
MisterR
Member
You review the game they give you, not what's coming in a few months. That's totally fair.
Antediluvian is the perfect word to use in place of archaic for this game *folds arms*
James Scott
Banned
Sorry if I'm taking so long. My computer just broke, working off my phone now.
Adding in US gamer and we got this covered reviews
Adding in US gamer and we got this covered reviews
Baron von Loathsome
Member
As I understand it, it's always been a very controversial game.
You can't deny that the statement is right though... Exagerated, but right.
Will give the game a go in August since it sounds fun and I want Nintendo to do new ips. But I do not like playing for early access games, and the way this game is launching is some similar unfinished shit.
I'd imagine this game would have been batting 9s easy if it launched with everything it will have by August?
I'd imagine this game would have been batting 9s easy if it launched with everything it will have by August?
I haven't really played Shadowrun so I can't comment. Just saying that numerical values don't always exist in vacuums, and overall feedback is worth considering. For example, the lack of a feature in one game could be an annoyance while in another game it could be the undoing of it.
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
Then the reviewer shouldn't use the word "IMPOSSIBLE"
This is what Nintendo and their partners excel at better than anyone. I'd argue that this was the approach to Super Smash Bros., Pikmin, Kid Icarus Uprising, W101, and even Xenoblade. They do a lot of genre/bending and blending to the point where new concepts begin to make sense and have their own feel despite being comprised of many old gameplay ideas.
man tricky you're such a downer in everything but 999 threads :<
Already got my copy booked and hopefully sent today.
After reading Jimquisitions review, I thought the whole "you can only enter multiplayer with one set of weapons" was a limitation of the Global Testfire Test version. I had no idea it was actually designed for the full game like that.
Think there is a slim chance Nintendo will revision this in an update, making you able to switch weapons between matches?
My gut says "lol no".
After reading Jimquisitions review, I thought the whole "you can only enter multiplayer with one set of weapons" was a limitation of the Global Testfire Test version. I had no idea it was actually designed for the full game like that.
Think there is a slim chance Nintendo will revision this in an update, making you able to switch weapons between matches?
My gut says "lol no".
Baron von Loathsome
Member
There's also the weird oversights with the online play (no loadout switching, no canceling out of matches after joining the lobby) to take into account. So who knows.
It's impossible in his opinion. I don't see what's wrong.
Look here to see the screenshot of future DLC maps.
http://squidboards.com/threads/all-multiplayer-maps.148/
The current list at launch is
Urchin Underpass
Saltspray Rig
Blackbelly Skatepark
Walleye Warehouse
Arowana Mall
The others you see are the DLC.
Look at the Direct also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQsZPYB0vMw
GuessMyUserName
Member
Then you should read the reviews. Launch content is a consistent bullet-point factoring in to the reviews.
victreeb3l
Member
Kind of expected these scores due to the game being rushed out but I'm still hyped for it.
test_account
XP-39C²
Depends on how well the reviewer manages to master that mechanic. It might never happen, and then its impossible
But its probably just written in the time frame that the reviewer had with the game.The 5 maps thing isn't an either-or type situation. It's not like we either get 5 great maps or 10 mediocre ones. In fact, chances are high there's going to be a clunker among the five. There's almost never a case where all maps are as well liked.
Quick is a subjective term. Don't be pedantic.
Agreed. This doesn't even seem to be a conscious decision on the dev's part, but more of an oversight. Hopefully, this can be fixed with a patch. It doesn't dissuade my decision to buy, but it does make me wonder how rushed this game was to get it out the door.
I'm sure Splatoon is designed well, but Shadowrun was one of the best shooters of recent memory.
Yeah, that's totally cool. But to say that quick responses and adjustments are impossible is just plain wrong. I would even argue that motion controls make them easier if mastered. Still, it's good that they're optional.
But that's like doing a Halo review and listing "the lest responsive and accurace control scheme out there - and it's fucking mandatory" as a negative.
About the frequency of map updates, I assumed it would be one per week because the direct showed a total of nine upcoming maps, and that seems like it would be enough to last one per week until August. If they do it every other week or every few weeks, then there will most likely be at least two new maps per update
paragonpro
Banned
Ah, is this the part of the thread where we find the lower scores, lower being relative to the majority of good scores, and pick the review and reviewer apart for daring to feel differently?
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
I don't believe using words accuracy is pedantic
I wrote that.
We're talking about an online game with no voice chat, no weapon swap between matches, no stats, no challenges and not even a button to cancel the matchmaking in 2015.
To me, that is really archaic, so "antediluvian" is ok. And it sounds totally legit in Italian, trust me.
EDIT: Also no (custom) loadouts.
nope. it's complaining about the nintendo defence force time!
Not backing out of lobbies is weird.
No changing of loadout is also wierd
But atleast matches start immediately after one match is done.
Those features listed led to lots of downtime between matches in COD and BF but in Splatoon matches start in less than 5 seconds. Maybe that was the reason why they didn't add those features.
It is a tough tradeoff tho.
No loadout switching fucking sucks, but I'm sure they don't allow canceling out of the lobby to avoid people going in and out of lobbies, which would make it harder for them to fill up.
Askherserenity
Member
Yeah, it's the only real bummer for me. Hopefully they can change that though.
MisterR
Member
Yep. It's a crazy low amount of maps and modes for a primarily online multiplayer game. If this was Battlefield or COD it would be getting crucified and be getting 6's in reviews. That said. I think the game looks super fun and I'll be picking it up. I do think there is a double standard with the reviews though.
Ugh, I can already tell launch is going to be painful due to archaic decisions, or possibly oversights.
Really hoping Nintendo takes many of these criticisms in stride and fix it for Splatoon 2.
no that started on the first page with the IGN shaming, lol
reviews and neoGAF, it's a crazy combo
I'm sure Splatoon is designed well, but Shadowrun was one of the best shooters of recent memory.
Again, I'm not saying it is. I haven't played Shadowrun.
It's just that there's not much of a preset barometer, everything is rated in context of itself. Opinions change, reviewers change etc.
The "Nintendo gets a free pass" narrative that seems to have taken hold here is so strange to me. It's like those who pump it seem to be totally unaware of the irony that they post about it in threads in which half of the people are critical of something Nintendo is doing, or fail to realize that almost anything Nintendo does has been polarizing for a number of years now. Internet fan culture is so insular sometimes, it's almost like they aren't even aware of what's even going on around them at the time.
When someone says, "Nobody likes to eat dirt", does that literally mean every single person in the world doesn't? Don't take everything at face value man.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
No real controversy, everything coming out just about as expected.
Yeah I can see that, I will try them, but if they don't click with me and using normal controls does I'm happy to switch to normal. If motions adds a ton to the gameplay that is lost with using normal controls, I may stick with them a bit longer, but if it's just a novel thing I'd probably prefer standard controls
I'm suddenly reminded of EA Battlefront arguments
For the record, I'm not in the camp of "Less Maps mean more polish for each and thus no bad maps"
johnny_cicala
Member
I wouldn't argue on the traslation of a single word. In italian it's "antidiluviano", a term used in every day life as a synonymous for "really old".
jackissocool
Member
I don't understand why people think these aren't valid criticisms.I wrote that.
We're talking about an online game with no voice chat, no weapon swap between matches, no stats, no challenges and not even a button to cancel the matchmaking in 2015.
To me, that is really archaic, so "antediluvian" is ok. And it sounds totally legit in Italian, trust me.
Even so, I'm really happy to see Nintendo expanding into a new genre and with lots of Nintendo flair and style in a major new IP. I hope their odd choices regarding content and online functionality don't kill the community early - I want this to be a long term success.
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
This isn't "someone," it's a reviewer who's presumably paid to write better than the average Joe.
Pretty impressive results for a new IP in a genre they haven't really tackled before. Reviews generally seem fair (lol at optional
motion controls being a negative tho) regarding the content. Can only review what's available at launch. Though the scores clearly show a very solid base to work from.
Good stuff!
superior
Good stuff!
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
:<
when this game will have all the content it's going to be absolutely amazing. Not entirely upset at the start, kind of like that all the levels and modes will be rolled out. Actually gives me more incentive to keep coming back.
We all knew we would have to deal with lots of those as soon as they announced no voice-chat.
Nintendo is always innovating on the gameplay side, but also downward thinking on other things, regularly (like online features).