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Splatoon | Review Thread

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Jintor

Member
je_ssi e said:
Really disappointed in that. I thought that was just a problem with the testfire.

I wouldn't have a problem switching to a different weapon if someone is already filling that role. It's going to suck when you want to try out the charger or something and being the third charger on your team. That exact scenario happened to me in the testfire and that was one of the worst games I've ever had in any game ever.

I wouldn't want to be the third anything on any team.

Being stuck like that is.. ugh.
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i agree. when you're the only gunner on a team of rollers... it's hell yo.

or a 4 charger team. oof.
 
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Corronchilejano

Member
Papacheeks said:
It's totally not fair to have a double standard on these type of situations and on Consoles especially Nintendo thread's there seems to be.
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If there's one publisher that can't ever live anything down, is Nintendo.

cheesekao said:
I really don't like this method. From the outside, it seems like Nintendo is being the nice guy by giving people free DLC but in the end it's simply held back content.
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Haven't really thought about it as free DLC, rather the game being rolled out little by little to give people time to get a feel for it. It is a pretty unique shooter. Whether this will work out for them in the long run is the real question.
 
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Askherserenity

Member
Einbroch said:
The biggest issue is that this is an online-focused community-driven game.

If the playerbase falls off because there's no content, will they come back when the content is there? If people aren't playing the game, will people who waited go "okay, now's the time to jump in"? I don't think so.

If Destiny had all the content it has now off the bat, more people would be playing it to this day. If Titanfall had more maps, progression, etc from launch, would it be the next CoD instead of the blip in the radar it was?

That's why you need a lot of content at launch for a multiplayer game. People will get bored and won't look back if you don't.
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You have 5 maps at launch and a new map added around every week. That might be enough to bring people back. They're also holding special online events which help you get those mats you need to respec your gear.

It's a different way of doing things, for sure. Not everyone is going to like it.
 
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Formless

Member
I guess they should've delayed this game a bit and given us Yoshi sooner.

EDIT: When did they say we'd get new content every week?
 
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Jarmel

Banned
cheesekao said:
I really don't like this method. From the outside, it seems like Nintendo is being the nice guy by giving people free DLC but in the end it's simply held back content.
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I'm somewhat willing to give Nintendo a break as the game is probably not finished and Nintendo needed something on the Wii U this summer.
 
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mclem

Member
Xer0 said:
Its genuinely nice that they're adding free maps, but, 5 at launch is still just awful. Can't help but feel they're getting a free pass on that.
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I do think that the map count is pretty poor.. but I do have to also acknowledge that I've already had three hours of play on just two of those maps, with a limited weapon loadout, and I could still happily stomach a few more hours of just that.
 
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xaszatm

Banned
Einbroch said:
The biggest issue is that this is an online-focused community-driven game.

If the playerbase falls off because there's no content, will they come back when the content is there? If people aren't playing the game, will people who waited go "okay, now's the time to jump in"? I don't think so.

If Destiny had all the content it has now off the bat, more people would be playing it to this day. If Titanfall had more maps, progression, etc from launch, would it be the next CoD instead of the blip in the radar it was?

That's why you need a lot of content at launch for a multiplayer game. People will get bored and won't look back if you don't.
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Except that's not always true. I mean, Team Fortress 2 released with a staggering small amount of content comparatively and yet its still extremely popular. It's the largest reason why I'm fine with how Splatoon is doing its release schedule.
 
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OrbitalBeard

Member
Formless said:
I guess they should've delayed this game a bit and given us Yoshi sooner.
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You know, considering Yoshi is finished, I think I agree with this.

Either that or Splatoon should have been a budget release worldwide so the "free DLC" actually felt like it was free.

That being said, I'm buying this on Friday lol
 
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NotLiquid

Member
Einbroch said:
The biggest issue is that this is an online-focused community-driven game.

If the playerbase falls off because there's no content, will they come back when the content is there? If people aren't playing the game, will people who waited go "okay, now's the time to jump in"? I don't think so.

If Destiny had all the content it has now off the bat, more people would be playing it to this day. If Titanfall had more maps, progression, etc from launch, would it be the next CoD instead of the blip in the radar it was?

That's why you need a lot of content at launch for a multiplayer game. People will get bored and won't look back if you don't.
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This is probably why Nintendo are planning on a long MK8-style marketing campaign for the game. They want to keep players aware of it's existence. No doubt, a lot of Splatoon's performance is going to be heavily studied by Nintendo. They put a lot of stake into this being a big franchise.

Most likely they'll look closely to see what works and what doesn't. They're in it for the long haul with this game. There will probably still be a good amount of players during the game's lifetime.
 
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Willxc123

Member
I don't know if this really counts, but my friend and I host a small blog where I have a nice and long written review after playing about 20+ hours if anyone wants to check it out: http://www.8bitawesome.com/2015/05/27/splatoon-review/
Final score is TBD until the real servers can be tested. (Review copies were hosted on separate, pre-release servers)

We also host a small podcast and we thought if anyone wants a longer, more in depth review of Splatoon (longer than a short article or 5 minute video review) this podcast might fit the bill. We got an early copy and after over 20 hours of gameplay, we tell you everything we can...(without spoiling the single player storyline).
http://www.8bitawesome.com/2015/05/27/podcast-83-special-splatoon-review-edition/ You can also easily find it if you just search for 8 Bit Awesome on iTunes.
 
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Jintor

Member
Einbroch said:
The biggest issue is that this is an online-focused community-driven game.

If the playerbase falls off because there's no content, will they come back when the content is there? If people aren't playing the game, will people who waited go "okay, now's the time to jump in"? I don't think so.

If Destiny had all the content it has now off the bat, more people would be playing it to this day. If Titanfall had more maps, progression, etc from launch, would it be the next CoD instead of the blip in the radar it was?

That's why you need a lot of content at launch for a multiplayer game. People will get bored and won't look back if you don't.
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I don't believe it's necessarily a question of how much content there is *at launch* specifically; rather, it's a question of how quickly the content is rolled out and what pricepoint there is on it (and also related issues such as the average connectivity of your userbase, their download capabilities etc). As well as the base 'hook' of your gameplay to spark initial interest. I'd obviously be happier if there was more meat to the content off the bat, especially for the price I'm paying, but the hook of the gameplay here is so damn strong I can see why Nintendo is pursuing this rollout strategy.
 
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oti

Banned
Real talk: Get Splatoon. It's tons of fun online with a nice but short single player campaign. There's not enough content there at launch but it's coming. The art style is awesome, it plays like nothing you've ever played and technically it works like a charm.
 
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mjc

Member
Good scores, but the double standards annoy me. If you look back to MP-centric games like Shadowrun last gen, they got butchered in reviews for having a lack of single player content and lack of modes. Interesting that this is getting better scores for about the same thing.

Weird side commentary, so I apologize. I'm still bitter that Shadowrun never got a fair shake with gamers.
 
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guek

Banned
Jarmel said:
I'm somewhat willing to give Nintendo a break as the game is probably not finished and Nintendo needed something on the Wii U this summer.
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What's funny is people act like they HAVE to buy the game right now. If it's not enough content now, wait! The content is coming, buy it then when you have better idea what the whole package will look like. I'd be much more pissed if they were mum on the August update altogether and it seemed as if the launch day product was all they were offering.
 
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Exile20

Member
Papacheeks said:
Yea, sorry, you either get 60$ game that's worth it or you don't. Titanfall, Evolve, The order, not worth full price, and more worth it if you wait for a price drop.

Game should be reviewed at face value not what is to come a month or two down the line.

It's totally not fair to have a double standard on these type of situations and on Consoles especially Nintendo thread's there seems to be.
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Who is saying that?

Most people know what they are getting into.

It should not be factored into the review score but should still be mentioned in the review.

Tricky I Shadow said:
Everyone complaining about having only 5 maps - that isn't even the worst part. Having only 2 multiplayer modes is the real stinker.
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Then wait for the content to arrive. No one is forcing you to buy it now. There are 2 more modes coming.
 
The Elite

The Elite

BOSS
mjc said:
Good scores, but the double standards annoy me. If you look back to MP-centric games like Shadowrun last gen, they got butchered in reviews for having a lack of single player content and lack of modes. Interesting that this is getting better scores for about the same thing.

Weird side commentary, so I apologize. I'm still bitter that Shadowrun never got a fair shake with gamers.
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The games are releasing years apart. I think gaming as a whole has become a lot more accepting of multiplayer driven IP.

Also, this does seem to have a decent single player campaign.
 
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phanphare

Banned
mjc said:
Good scores, but the double standards annoy me. If you look back to MP-centric games like Shadowrun last gen, they got butchered in reviews for having a lack of single player content and lack of modes. Interesting that this is getting better scores for about the same thing.

Weird side commentary, so I apologize. I'm still bitter that Shadowrun never got a fair shake with gamers.
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there's no double standard, read the reviews. your issues are brought up and taken into account.
 
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OrbitalBeard

Member
mjc said:
Good scores, but the double standards annoy me. If you look back to MP-centric games like Shadowrun last gen, they got butchered in reviews for having a lack of single player content and lack of modes. Interesting that this is getting better scores for about the same thing.

Weird side commentary, so I apologize. I'm still bitter that Shadowrun never got a fair shake with gamers.
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Splatoon has a seven hour single player campaign.
 
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lt519

Member
mjc said:
Good scores, but the double standards annoy me. If you look back to MP-centric games like Shadowrun last gen, they got butchered in reviews for having a lack of single player content and lack of modes. Interesting that this is getting better scores for about the same thing.

Weird side commentary, so I apologize. I'm still bitter that Shadowrun never got a fair shake with gamers.
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This has single player? And multiple modes that will get rolled out within like a week? And optional challenge modes if you buy the Amiibos. Do a little research before you go of kilter because some game in the past you like got slighted.

I'll never understand people genuinely wanting a game to do bad. That's not good for anyone.
 
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Askherserenity

Member
Impossiburu said:
When did that frequency become known? The timing Nintendo sent to reviewers with codes was "...New stages released every few weeks..."

That, to me, sounds like every three-ish weeks, not weekly.
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I remember watching something, not sure if it was the direct or some other stream, where they said they will be added around every week or so. Don't remember the wording exactly. Guess it could be 1-3 weeks. Not sure how they're deciding that, since it seems like they don't have a set date.
 
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Kriken

Member
Jintor said:
i agree. when you're the only gunner on a team of rollers... it's hell yo.

or a 4 charger team. oof.
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I wish the matchmaking could at least put more effort into making the teams of 4 have 1 of each weapon. A team of all Splatershoot Jr. isn't too fun :/
 
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FlashbladeNeo

Neo Member
Xer0 said:
I haven't, but, I guess I should have clarified I think they're getting a free pass in reviews.
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I would say they are getting a free pass if this was a normal shooter, but the gameplay style is unique enough to be something special despite the lack of online modes.

The gameplay must really be fun!
 
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Psykoboy2

Member
The time I spent with this game at E3 really pushed me to consider finally getting a Wii U. There's just too much on offer now to keep skipping over it and I'll likely have one in the next few weeks.
 
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NotLiquid

Member
mjc said:
Good scores, but the double standards annoy me. If you look back to MP-centric games like Shadowrun last gen, they got butchered in reviews for having a lack of single player content and lack of modes. Interesting that this is getting better scores for about the same thing.

Weird side commentary, so I apologize. I'm still bitter that Shadowrun never got a fair shake with gamers.
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Splatoon might just be more generally fun than Shadowrun, or generally better designed. Or just reviewed by different people.
That and the game has a pretty unique single player campaign.
 
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Darryl

Banned
Kinda hard to get perspective on how few maps 5 is until you play.

The last FPS I enjoyed was Halo Reach and if you just gave me my 5 favorite maps I wouldn't have missed the rest, especially right at launch. I can't even recall more than 5 maps from that game.
 
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lt519

Member
This is honestly getting better scores than I thought. I thought there was gonna be 7s galore referencing the no chat and "archaic" Nintendo online environment. It must be that good that most reviewers are only knocking it down to a 8/9 for that. Definitely picking this up.
 
PAULINK

PAULINK

I microwave steaks.
Exile20 said:
How is it possible to bypass every splatoon thread so far not to mention the direct and other youtube vids?

Yet somehow see this thread and be surprised by the 5 maps AT LAUNCH with maps coming evey 1 or 2 weeks after launch?

Wow man.
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Calm down dude, not everyone is in the loop. I'm not as media obsessed about new and upcoming games anymore so yes, this is the first time i'm seeing this. But regardless of whether or not I saw it now or 2 months ago, 5 maps at launch is definitely a disappointment. Let's hope what you said about dlc maps is true.
 
Tathanen

Tathanen

Get Inside Her!
From the OP:

IGN Italy said:
Somehow, Splatoon is a true masterpiece that changes the face of the shooter genre with its unique attitude and its brilliant gameplay. Yet at the same time it's a shame to see a game that's so fun and fresh plagued by such an antediluvian idea of online play.
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Oh, it's antediluvian. It's of or belonging to the time before the biblical Flood.

I, for one, would be quite interested in the online proclivities of this time period's avid online gamers.
 
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Exile20

Member
Jarmel said:
I'm somewhat willing to give Nintendo a break as the game is probably not finished and Nintendo needed something on the Wii U this summer.
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That is my same line of thinking.

The Wii U has zero third party support so Nintendo had to do what they had to. They needed a game out in summer.

You might not agree with the choice but atleast you see why they did it.

As a consumer and understanding their predicament, I am fine with buying it full price considering Nintendo's pass DLC work.
 
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Pastry

Banned
NotLiquid said:
Splatoon might just be more "generally" fun than Shadowrun, or generally better designed. Or just reviewed by different people.
That and the game has a pretty unique single player campaign.
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Blasphemy, Shadowrun is legit one of the best MP games ever and we all know that.
 
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oti

Banned
Tathanen said:
From the OP:



Oh, it's antediluvian. It's of or belonging to the time before the biblical Flood.

I, for one, would be quite interested in the online proclivities of this time period's avid online gamers.
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Splatoon: Nintendo's byzantine Shooter
 
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