Nightengale
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I don't like the semi-annualisation model for Forza/Halo personally, but yeah, there's more to Xbox than just that.
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Sony: "Our 1st party lineup a little sparse this year"; emphasis on 3rd party support
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I don't like the semi-annualisation model for Forza/Halo personally, but yeah, there's more to Xbox than just that.
Oppo
Member
I really wonder how many teams/resources have been put on Morpheus.
Might be a token amount like Move, but I feel like it's a lot. They seem to have high confidence in the thing.
Shu's comments about how games need to be created from scratch mostly, rather than adapted to VR, comes to mind.
Might be a token amount like Move, but I feel like it's a lot. They seem to have high confidence in the thing.
Shu's comments about how games need to be created from scratch mostly, rather than adapted to VR, comes to mind.
Saberus
Member
I agree.. E3 is usually more about next year and beyond..
I added beyond for the inevitable delays
Darth Smurf X
Member
Due to this thread, Sony will ask Media Molecule, Sony Bend, Guerrilla, Team ICO, Sony Santa Monica, Insomniac, Quantic Dream, Polyphony and Naughty Dog to have trailers ready for E3.
Why ask the studios themselves to create trailers for their own games when Sony could just hire some completely unrelated company to create trailers for them? -cough- Phantom Dust jab -cough-
So? Just as PC gamers don't see a justification in spending $400 to play a few indie games, many console owners also won't see the point in spending $1000 to play a few PC exclusives, or an Xbone.
This doesn't say much about one specific platform in particular, there isn't much point in buying different devices that are going to provide the same content for 95%.
Which is why I'm going to stick with one platform this generation. I wouldn't want to buy a PS4 for $400 either, for just 1 game that hasn't even received a release date and may end up on other platforms in the future.
Probably only a couple of internal first-party studios. But maybe a larger amount of contracted external developers. (like Supermassive Games which is working on some VR games for Morpheus)
In terms of first-party studios, I'm going to guess:
- SCE Japan Studio
- SCE London Studio
- Media Molecule
- Evolution Studios
I wonder if they'll ask Naughty Dog to make a VR Morpheus game. Maybe a smaller team within Naughty Dog. Since Naughty Dog alone is a developer that always gets a lot of attention with its projects, a Naughty Dog game for Morpheus could be a significant asset to drive mainstream attention towards Morpheus.
That's not an exclusive. It'll be coming to PC as well, and they've said it might make its way to X1 as well.
But yeah, I'd take that game over anything Sony or Microsoft's personal studios could make. I hope it shows up at E3.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Then one month after Uncharted is out they'll be back to complaining about no new games releasing. Apparently these people only play first party games.
To be fair, this is exactly what Sony did when they announced the PS3 as well, but yeah, MS and Sony have basically swapped places this gen compared to last in their approach to marketing.
Only play first party games made by an internal studio with a budget north of 50m bucks and available as a $60 boxed product you mean
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
So, if Bloodborne was released in September, MS didn't buy Tomb Raider and Uncharted came out in November, where would that stack the deck in this thread? Would it mean Sony had a great library? Because that's the fine line between it all really, given that all the smaller titles and pre-season aren't counting.
Darth Smurf X
Member
Yup. I still fondly remember this (being a pro-X360 guy at the time).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfmBzllkbUM
ok, maybe over-simplified, but there's far more on PS4 (which was the point) I mentioned Halo and Forza in particular because of the XBO owners I know that's about all they play which you cannot get elsewhere.
Magic Mushroom
Member
It's the one thing I really, really don't want to see at E3. Reveal trailers that are just CGI.
Just checked 2001, so awesome.
This image doesn't paint the entire picture though. The reality is we just don't get as many third party exclusive games anymore, but we still get amazing games to play either way. For example, this year is still an epic year for the PS4 as well if you look at the overall release list instead of just exclusives. Bloodborne, Arkham Knight, Witcher 3, Metal Gear Solid V, Final Fantasy XV, Persona 5, RiME, Project Cars, Tearaway, Star Wars Battlefront etc. These are all games that have or likely will be very well received, and the PS4 is getting them all this year.
TheSpaceBetween
Member
Well, UC4 and Ratchet will be there for sure. But yeah I agree, no way in hell we'll get all of them.
ArchedThunder
Banned
FFXV ain't comin out this year, buddy.
Bitch Pudding
Member
There sure are some 2016 games in that 2015 list... But yes, PS4 has games.
Really? Everywhere I've read had it pegged as TBA-2015.
What are the 2016 games? Genuinely curious.
Yeah, I'm wondering the same thing. I'm sure they want to put games out that appeal to people so Morpheus has a better chance of being picked up. Didn't Ubi mention plans to make games for VR as well or am I misremembering? Could be a sign that many people will end up gambling on VR
FFXV is not releasing in 2015, even though there seem to be a lot of people who like to think it is. There are also people who want to think Fallout 4 will be a 2015 game.
wapplew
Member
Just checked 2001, so awesome.
That's 3 new IP, which became classic. Who knew? Maybe some new IP this year will become something like that.
ArchedThunder
Banned
It's not listed as a 2015 game in any official capacity. If it was coming out this year they would have a big showing at E3, but they aren't going to.
Is this confirmed? I think it's completely unreasonable to expect Fallout 4 to be a 2015 release, especially when we haven't even had an announcement for it yet. But Final Fantasy XV? We've seen it countless times, know it's been in development for aeons, and have already had a demo with a chunk of it playable. I really can't see why it couldn't be a 2015 release, but either way, it's one game on a list of ten.
Exclusives aside, I think we'll look back on 2015 as an incredible year for games. Bloodborne and Witcher 3 are already GOTG type releases.
I totally disagree. I have played my PS4 virtually every day since launch. I absolutely love it.
It's always easy to paint a 'nice' list of early exclusives when there happens to be only one current-gen console available, and cross-gen games are impossible because your last-gen system is light years behind in every technical aspect.
FonkyByNature
Member
I don't mind too much since i will have way too many games to play and so little time to actually play them.
The thing that hurts me the most is the fact that Uncharted 4 got delayed. This was THE game i absolutely wanted to play this year. But then again, i will be busy playing other games and i prefer Naughty Dog to take their time to release something that is great instead of rushing things.
+ we have no idea what E3 will bring for surprises, i'm sure there's at least 2-3 games that we know nothing about coming this year.
MGS V, Black OPS 3 and Tearaway alone will take all my time.
The thing that hurts me the most is the fact that Uncharted 4 got delayed. This was THE game i absolutely wanted to play this year. But then again, i will be busy playing other games and i prefer Naughty Dog to take their time to release something that is great instead of rushing things.
+ we have no idea what E3 will bring for surprises, i'm sure there's at least 2-3 games that we know nothing about coming this year.
MGS V, Black OPS 3 and Tearaway alone will take all my time.
semiconscious
Member
They've never said it's coming out this year, and with another demo coming out this year, I don't see it releasing until the end of 2016.
Zombegoast
Member
Just checked 2001, so awesome.
Man there hasn't been the next big step of the genre this gen like we saw with the PS2. And looking back at 2005, they showed games that will come out up to 2009. I would hate to see how 9th gen would look if this keeps up.
CrankyKong
Member
For as good as Sony was last gen at banging out lots of first party games, they've been pretty mediocre in the last couple of years.
DrROBschiz
Member
At least the industry as a whole has been pumping out large games at a steady pace
Sure if you own multiple platforms the exclusives leave something to be desired..
But as a Ps4 owner ive constantly had something awesome to play. Not sure what to say to you guys who primarily play on other platforms
IAmRandom31
Banned
Funny thing is Uncharted was #7 on my list and Witcher 3 didn't even make my list in the old 'Most Anticipated of 2015 thread.
This year is pretty stacked with potentially amazing games. Can't wait for Persona 5, No Mans Sky, MGSV, The Tomorrow Children, Disgaea 5, Dragon Quest Heroes, Rime, The Witness, Tearaway Unfolded, Etc. Going to be a great year even without Uncharted 4. One of the best years ever if No Mans Sky pans out.
The Mad Draklor
Member
It takes time. Their 1st parties can't just whip out a polished game in such a short timespan. Also, there are games outside of the 1st party realm that are enjoyable.
loaf of bread
Member
I think a big part of it is, while in terms of exclusives, theres a lot more than Halo/Forza, if you look at their first party studios, they are "factories".
343 - Halo factory
Turn 10 - Forza factory
Lionhead - Fable factory
Black Tusk - Gears factory
The only thing that really isn't is Rare and they were a Kinect factory for most of last gen.
Then when they founded a new studio working on a new IP, what happens? It gets scrapped and they turn into a Gears factory.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Bloodborne already is.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
It's about Fall/Holiday 2015 and beyond.
Remember, Rare was a kinect sports factory, then shit happened. Also, Lionhead is working on new IP.
Newtype-001
Member
You mean only the last 2 years? 2014 and 2015?
Cause 2013 had
Tearaway, Killzone Mercernary, Killzone Shadowfall, Puppeteer, Rain, Knack, GT6, TLOU, GOW Ascension,
Don't expect anything to change. The PS2 as well mainly relied on third party efforts with a lot of average first party releases like the getaway, primal, etc....
Kings don't crawl.
Melchiah
Member
That's exactly what I think it is, a revisionist take on the past to serve the current narrative of "PS4 has no games", which ignores the fact that people said the same about the PS3 for a long time.
Just checked 2001, so awesome.
All of them weren't out in Europe and America in the first 18 months of PS2's life.
I can see the headlines during E3 already: "Fallout 4 announced, delayed into 2016."
When it comes to PS4 games, I think far too many people are hung up on exclusives. I know, exclusives are important and form the identity of the console, but even with their lack, it's not as if there are a dearth of games to play, as many lists have indicated so far. If you've been in this generation from the beginning, I can understand the frustration, but if you're only joining it now, you've got an enormous backlog of great games to get through. This generation hasn't been getting a lot of quality titles out frequently, but they've been coming at a pace that makes the year look good in hindsight.
FFXV is definitely 2016 (At the earliest), Persona 5 is looking a tad 'iffy' for this year in the west at least and Rime is still a real question mark.
M°°nblade;165506207 said:
Er... PS2 had a ridiculous number of first party titles though. Most of the biggest sellers were third party, yeah, but Sony put out tons of games themselves on the platform. High quality stuff too. Probably one of the most top heavy consoles for first party releases there's been.
Newtype-001
Member
Its funny cause PS4 has the most exclusives releasing this year. They have the same amount of first party titles as xbox releasing this year. Have more remasters coming this year...
but still "no games" all cause of games not having a big enough budget or not releasing at the end of the year. Its such a warped fanboy driven narrative.
Is it actually iffy, or is that just (understandable) fan pessimism?
loaf of bread
Member
Why does everyone seem to forget how great 2013 was and how almost every one of their studios released a game in either 2013 or 2014 which, obviously, would mean all of them are in a period of development right now.
Santa Monica - 2013 - God of War Ascension
Polyphony Digital - 2013 - GT6
Naughty Dog - 2013 - The Last of Us
Guerilla - 2013 - Killzone Shadowfall
Guerrilla Cambridge - 2013 - Killzone Mercenary
Media Molecule - 2013 - Tearaway
Sucker Punch - 2014 - Infamous Second Son
Evolution - 2014 - Driveclub
Second Party
Quantic Dream - 2013 - Beyond 2 Souls
Ready at Dawn - 2015 - The Order
Japan Studio, Studio London, and San Diego studio have been releasing multiple games yearly.
Sony Bend is the only studio that hasn't released a game in the past 2 years, when they released Uncharted for Vita in 2012 and transitioned to PS4 development.
It has been less than 2 years since any of their studios released a game, they had an amazing 2013, and now they are in a period of development. It takes more than 2 years to make a game and as such, is the reason why you probably aren't seeing any of them for 2015.
You might even get Sony Bend's game in 2015. House's quote doesn't say "We have nothing for the Fall" It says "Its a bit sparse". One game, is still sparse, so you might still get one.
Santa Monica - 2013 - God of War Ascension
Polyphony Digital - 2013 - GT6
Naughty Dog - 2013 - The Last of Us
Guerilla - 2013 - Killzone Shadowfall
Guerrilla Cambridge - 2013 - Killzone Mercenary
Media Molecule - 2013 - Tearaway
Sucker Punch - 2014 - Infamous Second Son
Evolution - 2014 - Driveclub
Second Party
Quantic Dream - 2013 - Beyond 2 Souls
Ready at Dawn - 2015 - The Order
Japan Studio, Studio London, and San Diego studio have been releasing multiple games yearly.
Sony Bend is the only studio that hasn't released a game in the past 2 years, when they released Uncharted for Vita in 2012 and transitioned to PS4 development.
It has been less than 2 years since any of their studios released a game, they had an amazing 2013, and now they are in a period of development. It takes more than 2 years to make a game and as such, is the reason why you probably aren't seeing any of them for 2015.
You might even get Sony Bend's game in 2015. House's quote doesn't say "We have nothing for the Fall" It says "Its a bit sparse". One game, is still sparse, so you might still get one.
ArchedThunder
Banned
It's just pessimism. Atlus says 2015.
Vincent Grayson
Member
Absolutely pessimism. Everything official that has mentioned P5 release has said 2015 for both Japan and US.
BibiMaghoo
Member
I was thinking the same thing. I'm fairly positive I played GTA3 long before FFX came out, though obviously it was some time ago, so memory may not be 100% in how long that time was. UK here.