It is much worse. I play games maybe 2-4 hours a week, just because my job/hobbies/friend times takes up everything else. And those hours usually are with my gf on the couch next to me.
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VRFocus: Big Morpheus push at Sony presser, half of their booth devoted to it
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It is much worse. I play games maybe 2-4 hours a week, just because my job/hobbies/friend times takes up everything else. And those hours usually are with my gf on the couch next to me.
Octavianus
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This simply isn't true, at all.
Plinko
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In terms of communicating with your significant other? How great is your communication when you're both looking at the TV playing video games with a controller?
TheBioLover
Member
I hope people understand that this doesn't mean they're going to demo stuff at the conference, they're going to encourage people to see it for themselves at the booth, VR isn't something that can be demoed on stage easily.
Zombie James
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How would VR improve a side-scroller? A fighting game? A sports game like the NHL series? First-person is clearly the genre that makes the most sense for VR, imho.
Haven't impressions of Morpheus up to this point been extremely positive?
John Bender
Banned
I hope they don't devote a lot of "E3 conference time" to Project Morpheus.
VR is something you have to experience by yourself, on a booth! It's great.
If they think it's a good idea to show some VR videos/trailers during the E3 conference, or showing some dude who's using/playing it...... bad... VERY BAD idea, because it's boring as hell.
Don't waste too much LIVE conference time on that.
VR is something you have to experience by yourself, on a booth! It's great.
If they think it's a good idea to show some VR videos/trailers during the E3 conference, or showing some dude who's using/playing it...... bad... VERY BAD idea, because it's boring as hell.
Don't waste too much LIVE conference time on that.
Exactly! If it's that what they are planning..... bad. Very bad.
GiantBombGamer
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I'm down with this, though I'm curious to see how good the games can look on the PS4 hardware, considering the recommended specs that Oculus is asking for. VR takes some serious hardware to pull of.
Of course, graphics don't matter much if the experience is new and enjoyable. I just hope move isn't a big part of their plan, let us just use a regular controller.
Of course, graphics don't matter much if the experience is new and enjoyable. I just hope move isn't a big part of their plan, let us just use a regular controller.
There is what?
Begaria
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VR has to be demoed live, its experiences cannot be fully told via words/images/videos.
As for how much of their pressconf will be focused on VR, that still remains to be seen. Sony has in past 2 years talked very little about Vita on stage, but on showfloor they dedicated insane amount of space for this handheld.
As for how much of their pressconf will be focused on VR, that still remains to be seen. Sony has in past 2 years talked very little about Vita on stage, but on showfloor they dedicated insane amount of space for this handheld.
This was one of the most awkward demos ever. Hopefully this will be a fad and I won't have to put up a show like this to my wife and kids.
Karspankey
Banned
Hopefully the heist demo will be made available when Morpheus launches. It should come with a Wii Sports kind of game that has short games to try out.
I don't know man. That dude is playing in front of a ton of people and all I see is smiles everywhere. Kids will love stuff like this; imagine an interactive Blues Clues game made for kids. I'm not a father, but I would think that my kids would love seeing me playing with this.
Let go of the expectation of photo-realistic graphics and you'll be fine. The resolution and framerate will be there.
Handy Fake
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The repeated assertion that the PS4 is too weak to handle VR. It's manifestly not true from what we've seen so far.
Octavianus
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How would it not?Having it right in front of you instead of having to look at a tv is an improvement in itself.
lol.
I am interested in seeing where this VR thing goes. Would love to try one out at some point in the future.
I don't see myself devoting hours and hours to it, it will probably be a sporadic thing when I find a couple of hours of free time, but still I love that it has so much potential!
John Bender
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Watching something like that during a E3 conference would be stupid and boring as hell.
UnwrittenZero
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No really true why cant you guide someone though a platformer in a true third person view as the third person. It's like playing god of war but I can watch him fuck shit up and also look around at the vistas.
diablos991
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PhoenixDawn
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Makes sense that it takes up a lot of space in their actual showfloor booth, I just hope that isn't indicative of how long they're going to spend on it at the presser. I doubt it is, hopefully it is just trailers and perhaps a brief sentence or two saying "and everything you saw here will work with Morpheus"". Please no extended demo where we watch someone with it on while the actual gameplay is in a tiny inserted video in the corner of the stream.
Agreed. Have they announced pricing for Morpheus yet? I bet we'll at least hear about that at E3.
Zombie James
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I mean, it's a virtual reality headset. I think you're missing the point of VR if you're just going to treat it like a personal screen (even though, yeah, I guess you could use it like that).
bigwinnerx
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Most (all?) of the time I spend with games is usually after everyone else in the house is asleep (wife, 2 kids under 10). So spending a couple hours with a VR helmet on isn't depriving me from time with my kids, thanks.
FlashFlooder
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Sure, they're only releasing it in the most consumer friendly way on the most popular platform worldwide, after all.
They've already given you that. Now other people get to have some things too.
If the argument is that 'VR doesn't demo well because I think people look awkward while using VR', I don't think it's a very solid argument myself. In terms of the substance of the game or the experience, it would be no more watchable IMO if someone was just standing still in front of a TV with a gamepad.
Whatever about how acceptable it would be to spouses etc., it's a point apart from the ability to simply view these kinds of demos vs other kinds of stage demo.
Why, compared to any other non-VR demo? Would this be suddenly acceptable fodder for a conference if he was playing with a gamepad?
Put aside the quality of the demo/game, I'm asking purely about watching a game/experience being played with VR vs someone play the same thing with a gamepad on a stage. If the demo is exciting it'll work either way, IMO. If you think the person playing looks silly, just watch the big screen rather than the person
I think a heavy VR focus at this time is a mistake. Only a fraction of PS4 owners are the target market right now. Better to focus on mass-market selling the PS4 generally as a platform at E3, the largest mass-market videogame audience.
But, that's also because I'm not really interested.
But, that's also because I'm not really interested.
XxRampage07xX
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Nice! The more Sony is devoted to Morpheus, the more I'm happy since it shows that Sony won't easily abandon it and I can also expect many high quality games coming to the device.
Karspankey
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Maybe if it was live? I could imagine throwing a video up of celebrities trying out Morpheus. They already got a good reaction from Conan playing.
I feel the same way. I don't feel like I am missing out working during the conference this year I guess.
EmptySpace
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imagine playing street fighter but instead you'll be put as one of the people in the crowd in the background and you see up-close ryu and chun-li beating each other up while you're controlling one hoooooly guacamole!
or a strategy game like starcraft. you're placed on a cliff of a mountain far above the battlefield and a la minority report, using the move, you select and move units and the hud just appears floating in front of you or something.
StealthGoblin
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It is one of those things that has to be experienced. I doubt they will spend ages on it during the conference. They'll talk about some of the games, the hardware etc, but I don't think we'll get any stage demos.
Octavianus
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That's cool, I think you're severely underestimating the abilities of VR if you honestly think it's only going to help with stuff that's in a first person perspective. There's no reason why you absolutely have to see stuff from the perspective of the character you're controling just because it's virtual reality.
Eddit: EmptySpace's examples are pretty good.
About as exciting as watching someone play any other game, IMO
why? If they feel like VR doesn't demo well on stage, they might not spend much time on it, and instead use the booth space for that (which is also perhaps why they have half the booth dedicated to it - it'll take longer to demo VR to attendees with setting people up etc)
But if it demos well, why not spend time on it? This won't be seen as a little accessory from Sony, they'll push it hard. And it'll also have a halo effect on the PS4 generally with Sony wanting to position themselves as technology leaders and innovators.
Also I'd hope quite a few of those games will be playable on PS4 in non-VR so it shouldn't be a complete washout if you really aren't interested. And hey, maybe their demos will get you interested?
Art Vandilay
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The concept of VR intrigues me, but I feel like my girlfriend wouldn't look at me the same. Hell, my dog would probably give me weird looks.
Agreed.
I'm married with kids. I play with VR as part of my media mix, so does my wife (we like to try out VR experiences together). My daughter would love to but I'm concerned about impacting her vision (she's 5) otherwise the whole family would play. And if we could meet up in VR for games or virtual trips we would all use it together.
Really don't understand the line of argument you were responding to either.
Of course it won't be minimal, Sony has no idea how to structure their E3 press conferences. I just wonder if it will be before or after the 30-45 minute charts and graphs section.
astroturfing
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i'm still confused about PS4 and VR, can the console actually run great looking games in VR..? i was under the impression that it can't..
i'm wrong? would love to be. it's just that looking at many PS4 games having problems running smoothly while not even looking all that spectacular, i find it hard to believe i would be impressed by VR on PS4.
i really don't want to buy a new PC just for decent VR :/ not with my paycheck, nope.
i'm wrong? would love to be. it's just that looking at many PS4 games having problems running smoothly while not even looking all that spectacular, i find it hard to believe i would be impressed by VR on PS4.
i really don't want to buy a new PC just for decent VR :/ not with my paycheck, nope.
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