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VRFocus: Big Morpheus push at Sony presser, half of their booth devoted to it
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Dr. Kitty Muffins
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This is where I think they will screw up. I think focusing too much on VR will invoke a gamer backlack who want to see more traditional games and less gimmicky ones.
Harkins1721
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Agreed. Hopefully it doesnt take up a lot of time at Sony's E3 conference.
Acquiescence
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Just keep that shit out of the conference and we're cool Sony. Please, the world doesn't need another Wonderbook-esque exercise in excruciating motion control demonstrations.
I almost bought a GearVR today. Guess I'm better off waiting till E3 at least.
(I have a 3dtv myself, as do many people, doesn't mean it's not a fad)
A fad means there is a period where a lot of people buy it though. The word you're looking for is a dud.
(I have a 3dtv myself, as do many people, doesn't mean it's not a fad)
CalamityPixel
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I'm getting bad flashbacks to Kinect, PS Move, Wonderbook, WiiFit etc.
What they show better be good, hardware addons never have the best of appearences at E3.
What they show better be good, hardware addons never have the best of appearences at E3.
It is a negative to me, and I'm sure other people feel the same. I think the tech is cool. Not sure why that's crazy? I actually, weirdly, am still into hearing impressions and seeing reactions and whatnot. Just doesn't fit my life.
Demon Lizardman
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While I am excited to see what they have for the Morpheus I hope they don't spend half the conference talking about what experiences you could have.
VR is best shown when you are using it at a booth, not seeing a person act like an ass on stage using it and seeing what he is seeing on the big screen. There is no effect to that.
VR is best shown when you are using it at a booth, not seeing a person act like an ass on stage using it and seeing what he is seeing on the big screen. There is no effect to that.
The good thing is that unlike Kinect, this does feel like there is a group of people that want VR badly. So even if it's not for some of you, at least know this isn't like a Story Book thing where no one cares.
I mean, apart of VR taking off is selling the public on it. A major company like Sony aggressively promoting it and selling people on what it can be, well that could really help further VR in terms of informing consumers and raising demand. I think the general public is still sort of in the dark of how VR will be sold soon as a product.
I was more referring to the fact that once you've tried it, watching others will just not feel as entertaininggofreak said:
Regarding physical discomfort - only a tiny fraction of population is immune to the "bad" behaviours in software, from samples of 100+ people I'd seen maybe 5-10% who wouldn't get sick under certain conditions.
The positive impact of of that is that it forces developers to be 'very' careful - and platform holders will be especially picky in first generation of software to avoid market backlash.
Boomstompfloppy
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Sonys conference is always super long, I'd much rather this then talk about powers or wonderbook
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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It really should have its own separate event.
They're certainly taking a gamble by making it so prominent. Ideally they'd keep most of the Morpheus stuff contained to the booths and the traditional games will still be shown on stage. I have a feeling a significant chunk of their conference will be highlighting VR though.
Well Oculus is having their conference tomorrow so we should get an idea of what some of the launch games will be like on these devices.
Tripp Daily
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I agree. I can't imagine playing for long periods of time wearing a VR headset. I think the headache you get when you see daylight after that would be worse than the one you get coming out of a theatre.
demosthenes
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Has to be though right? It's something that's better shown by experiencing it, not showing it.
And eventually, when it gets established on consoles and PC, it'll likely have it's own CONFERENCE.
But right now, E3 is definitely the place to show it off.
Tarin02543
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I am 33 years old and I feel out of touch with the new videogame industry as we know it today.
This might sound strange, but I have also totally missed the boat on social media and smartphones and I do not care about that at all. This VR stuff was tantalizing when I was a teenager but right now I don't see any benefits other than eye pain.
Anyone else feel like me or am I becoming a "get off my lawn" person?
This might sound strange, but I have also totally missed the boat on social media and smartphones and I do not care about that at all. This VR stuff was tantalizing when I was a teenager but right now I don't see any benefits other than eye pain.
Anyone else feel like me or am I becoming a "get off my lawn" person?
SerTapTap
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The Wii ruined people on innovative ideas. Everything is "waggle" to some people now. Super excited for morpheus.
And I wouldn't panic too much, they're dedicating lots of booth space because they need to actually show people VR with demo stations and shit. I'm sure morpheus will be, and should be, at the conference but this doesn't mean half the conference is morpheus.
No offense but why not both? If you don't understand it can be hard to pitch VR, I would say try it when Best Buy/etc inevitably get demo booths, you really need to try it to get it.
TheJollyCorner
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I feel like E3 will be where they really grab attention for the VR device and PSX will be the event where they hammer it home in preparation for a spring launch.
It's a one-two punch.
As great as VR is and will be in the future, the idea of it being a big focus at the presser is kind of disappointing...
I mean, if they show off God of War, Uncharted, some new IPs, etc, I can appreciate the graphics, the art, the gameplay, etc. With VR demonstrations, I can appreciate fuck all, because they're impossible to demonstrate online.
I mean, if they show off God of War, Uncharted, some new IPs, etc, I can appreciate the graphics, the art, the gameplay, etc. With VR demonstrations, I can appreciate fuck all, because they're impossible to demonstrate online.
Well not everyone is hiding in their room playing games solo or able to just ignore everyone else in their house for hours on end.
I'm 33, wife, 2 kids and a dog. I own all 3 current gen consoles, a gaming pc, vita and 3DS..... Having to wear a device on my head that shuts me out from stuff going on around me is a huge negative point for me.
Saying that, i just expect Morpheus to suck because the PS4 isn't nearly powerful enough to actually have anything VR related id want to play.
this. so much.
3rdamention
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Don't stereotype VR games as "gimmicky" when they do not have to be exclusive to gimmicks...I feel that can be a bit disrespectful to devs working on VR games...
And just because we have information that there is a big VR push at Sonys booth doesn't mean "traditional" games will be absent from the booth or the conference....
^
Kinect was something Microsoft attempted to shove down our thoats while VR is something that was initially funded by consumers and is now constantly pushed by both the developers of VR and the consumers.
RoadHazard
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Sweet, can't wait for VR to really kick off.
Both of those games have been 30 fps in every video I've seen, although granted that's mostly YouTube videos from before they started supporting 60. I've never heard a single word about the framerate in these games, I think. They need to run at a stable 60 for Morpheus support to be viable.
But yeah, NMS in VR would insta-sell me on this thing.
Both of those games have been 30 fps in every video I've seen, although granted that's mostly YouTube videos from before they started supporting 60. I've never heard a single word about the framerate in these games, I think. They need to run at a stable 60 for Morpheus support to be viable.
But yeah, NMS in VR would insta-sell me on this thing.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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If the PS4 is needed for Morpheus to work, then a console price drop would greatly help. You want the total package to be as cheap as possible.
the_firewithin
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I don't mind the push but please don't let this take up a majority of the presser
autoduelist
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I think the opposite -- VRs best chance at mainstream success during the next few years is Morpheus. It'll happen eventually, either way, but right now the tech is still relatively expensive. However, the Morpheus has many -mass appeal- things going for it that other VR solutions do not.
1) Plug and play. Morpheus and its games will 'just work'. Plug in the Morpheus, buy a game, and go. No risk of needing to fiddle with your PC getting it to work.
2) Cost effective, especially if you already own a PS4.
3) Word of mouth -- many people have their ps4 in their living room; many people have their gaming pcs set up a bit more 'privately' (den, home office, etc). Consoles have always been a bit more friendly to 'showing off to your friends'. If VR is impressive, it'll sell units.
Now, some people will love it so much they go out and buy high end pcs and the best gear on the market. But most people? PS4 and Morpheus is the cheapest, easiest solution... and the ones their friends have.
I can usually only game at naptime and post-sleep time. So... yeah, that's me. I want to try it, badly, but I doubt I'll be getting one anytime soon. To those saying we probably shouldn't be gaming on tv either, that's sort of the point. Squeezing in some time here or there on the tv or vita when nobody is around is likely far easier than strapping this on. It's just how it is... family trumps gaming.
VR has a lot of possibilities for not just gaming but for other things as well (interactive films, tools for medical fields, educational purposes, ect), so Sony giving a good 10-20 minutes of their conference to Morpheus is not only a smart decision, but an expected one.
The biggest issue is showing the tech off, as just like Kinect and other such 'gimmicks', you need to experience it to fully see its results, so giving a good amount of its booth to Morpheus is a great move as well.
I wonder if this means we are getting a few games exclusive to the device announced, as Sony would need to be aggressive with its software support for the thing. I can see games like No Mans Sky and others be supported by the tech.
The biggest issue is showing the tech off, as just like Kinect and other such 'gimmicks', you need to experience it to fully see its results, so giving a good amount of its booth to Morpheus is a great move as well.
I wonder if this means we are getting a few games exclusive to the device announced, as Sony would need to be aggressive with its software support for the thing. I can see games like No Mans Sky and others be supported by the tech.
I think it's pretty easy to appreciate when you're seeing a direct interaction, or string of interactions, in a VR experience that would be basically impossible to replicate outside of QTEs in a gamepad controlled game. Kind of demo-scale things, but seeing the fidelity of sword play and dummy interaction in the castle demo, or a player swiping ammo of a table onto the floor to reload a gun more safely in the heist demo. You don't need to have the headset on to appreciate the difference in this kind of interaction vs what you can do when you're pushing a stick and pressing buttons.
The immersion factor is hard to telegraph, and is left to your imagination, but all kinds of other things about what's different in these experiences can be communicated.
PulseONE
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That's all well and good, it's not for you. But how would you change the device to work then? It was DESIGNED for immersion, so what's wrong with the people who ARE ok with the isolation to be excited for it?
Virtual reality has been the end-game goal of pretty much all entertainment media since entertainment media was born. Better graphical fidelity. Surround sound. 3D. Color picture. etc. All of these benchmarks in media are trying to more completely immerse you in the experience, to make it easier for you to "believe" what you're seeing is happening right in front of you, and that you are a part of it.
Now, we aren't at "holodeck" yet. But this is the next level in getting there.
Now, we aren't at "holodeck" yet. But this is the next level in getting there.
Don't about the other game but No Mans Sky is 60fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpcoO7bTV48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQhSP82uhY4
TheJollyCorner
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100% agreed. I feel like this is an inevitability.
We've been told since 2013 that the PS4 is designed for price drops.
It's mid-2015 and we still haven't seen one, mostly thanks to the PS4's historic success.
Regardless of what VR is priced at, I can absolutely see Sony using its launch as a good reason to bring down the PS4 price, both for stand-alone and bundle situations.
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