The fact that you're so concerned about 'the competition' and who is gonna win, and constantly trying to cheerlead for one side while downplaying the others when possible - this isn't you just being fair and noting what you think the landscape is, it's you plain old participating in platform wars crap. Sorry if I'm not impressed by it.
On the contrary, that's precisely what I'm doing. Yes, I generally prefer console gaming to PC gaming, and yes, I think Sony make the best consoles, but I think you're the one letting bias cloud their judgement here.
Frankly, this idea that Sony is 'gonna win' seems so laughable to me anyways. For one, two different platforms and two different markets. Two, consumer VR headsets aren't even available outside GearVR and you're already trying to proclaim a king of the entire medium? Come on. Three, do you not realize that PC will have exclusive content as well? :/
On your first point, I totally agree, and I never said Sony are going to win, because you're right; their
actual competitors aren't actually competing. Sony win VR by default, in the console space. Perhaps I'm a bit salty from the PC crowd constantly dismissing Sony's contributions to VR, and their likely significance in the VR space, but yeah, I actually consider handhelds (and mobile), consoles, and PC gaming to be three largely independent markets. The console market just happens to be a lot bigger than the gaming PC market. Despite that, many seemed to think that PC would be where all of the VR action is. I guess the point of my post was partly to say, "No, as I've been trying to tell you guys all along, if any of these solutions are really going to reach the mainstream, it will likely be Sony's, so you guys should be
happy they're participating, because they'll be drawing far more attention than you can draw on your own."
As to your second point, isn't that pretty much what we do here at GAF? Speculate and pontificate? You haven't seen the multitude of posts basically saying, "Sony are a joke;
Oculus Valve will destroy them"? How are my posts any different from those? Why don't you get on their case too? I'll tell you how my post are different from theirs;
I've never said that VR on PC was a joke, or that it would be crushed by Sony. Why would I? That would be nonsensical, because neither hardware type is a joke, and they don't even really compete with one another. The latter point I've actually made explicitly, numerous times, and in multiple contexts (not just VR).
For your third point, of course there will be exclusive content on PC. I've never said otherwise. Mostly, I was responding to those who'd been proclaiming that all of the VR content worth having will originate on PC, and apart from 1st-party, the most Morpheus owners could hope for would be shitty, poorly performing ports of PC content. Clearly, that's not going to be the case. Contrary to "popular" belief, Morpheus is going to have a ton of exclusive content, from both 1st and 3rd parties. That's all I'm saying.
There's a lot of benefits to a lot of different platforms and I can see them all(console, mobile, PC)co-existing and benefiting from each other in the end. I actually *want* to see VR do well on PS4. I own a PS4 and I'm quite enthusiastic about VR so why I wouldn't I be? I don't see it as this huge competition like you do. That's the difference. The fact that you obviously aren't even in a frame of mind to think it was a possibility I(or anybody) could see things like that is just about as telling as it could be.
Dude, you have no idea what you're talking about. If anything, we're of the same mind here, more or less. The main difference is I'm calling out the PC brigade, and you're just calling out me. I'm trying to clear up some of their misconceptions, and you're just calling me names.
You say you want VR to do well overall, and that you want it to do well on the PS4 specifically. In the summary of the post you responded to, I said, "I really do think Sony are best poised to lead the charge," because it seems like their solution will be the most affordable by far, and they already have enough exclusive content to fill half their booth. Since you say you only care about the overall success of VR, and you give no shits about who wins, then it seems like your response to my post should've been something along the lines of, "Good; I'm glad there's someone with such a strong offering." Instead, all I got from you was, "OMG you're such a fanboy."
Not long ago, everyone thought Oculus would be leading the charge, seeing as how Palmer singlehandedly invented VR. Now, we have people openly mocking Oculus and claiming that Valve will dominate the VR landscape instead. All along, I've been saying, "Umm, Sony are pretty competent, gang, and consoles are way more accessible than PCs
" If you disagree with something I've said, fine. Then disagree, and we can discuss it. What did your post add to the conversation apart from telling everyone else that
you've decided I'm a huge dick?
Yeah the Occulus/Vive PC set might end up costing more but you forget that bigger expense is due to having much more powerful specs than the PS4. And those better specs will translate into better graphical fidelity and larger experiences.
I haven't forgotten that at all. In fact, I said so in the post you quoted. I also pointed out that for most users, the graphical bump isn't worth the additional cost. If that's what you want to spend your money on, more power to you. I certainly don't fault you for that in any way. Most people won't make the same decision as you though. That's why consoles are more popular than gaming PCs.
So I have no doubt that PC VR will have their own exclusive games due to the inferior hardware of the PS4.
meh That seems unlikely. How many exclusives does PC get now, simply because it's more powerful? It seems far more likely the split will continue just as it has for years now, with certain games only being "stuck" on PC because of control schemes, preconceptions about the types of games console gamers want to play, and that sort of thing.
Only takes 10-15mins to show the facts and figures, release date plans and possible pricing strategy. Maybe even a 5min movie of devs talking about how exciting it is as platform.
..going over that 15mins means they'd probably showing a live demo...and that is indeed a stupid move.
Someone flailing about with a mask strapped to their face in front of a few thousand people watching a normal feed of what they're seeing is absurd.
Why would it be any more absurd than a few thousand people watching some dude play CoD or Ass Creed? It'll be just like any other demo. The main difference is playing Ass Creed is better than watching someone else play it, and playing a VR game is
way better than watching someone else play it. The demos themselves are more or less identical.
I hope Sony's first demo is No Man's Sky, with Sean talking us through an extended gameplay demo. Then at the end of the demo, the curtain drops to reveal the guy playing was wearing a Morpheus the entire time.
