Octavianus
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VRFocus: Big Morpheus push at Sony presser, half of their booth devoted to it
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That gif has never been more appropriate.
vpance
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How many units do they have to sell before we can consider it "selling to the masses" ? And does it even matter?
We can do VR on smartphones.
And lack of support is a strange concern to have given the topic title.
Whether or not the Morpheus runs on a PS4, which of course it does, is not my issue with VR. It'd be a pretty hard sell to me if it launched at a price point higher than the hardware it runs in at launch. $200-$300 seems like that might be the target if they want the highest penetration possible, while not limited sing too much on each unit.
Sony have said that they want to make a consumer product, so I think they'll end up at a lower price. Anything higher than $500, I feel, will be more of a hobbyist item and I hope Sony have learned that "$599 USD" is not really in a lot of their customers price range.
This is like saying "I hope microsoft polishes off running instead of rushing out with a me-too walking kit."
Looking like an idiot:
I assure you that if my friends see me with all that gear on me, I am going to get laughed at for years.
Where did you get this shitpost?
Balmung421
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Surprised so many people are disappointed about VR having a big presence at Sony's presser.
Mister Megative
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May have to respectfully disagree here. Every person I've seen who's tried Morpheus have spoken of a game-changer. Sony is wise to devote so much floor space at E3 for people to sample it for themselves (which is why during the actual conference I think they'll talk about the tech for ten minutes TOPS and just direct people straight to the Morpheus units), and if people have the same reaction others have had plus a nice price point.......I think Sony could really be on to something here.
Let me clarify though: Morpheus's success will ultimately fall upon that price point and potential bundles. Will there be a PS4 bundle? A standalone bundle with games? I think it's way too early to say it won't take off. In my mind all the puzzle pieces are there, it's just a matter of Sony piecing them together properly.
Well I guess I'm more interested to see if they'll have big dedicated experiences or more like small little tech demos. Sony is already having trouble providing support for the PS4 itself on a first party front so I'm curious to see how they handle adjusting for Morpheus.
It'd be cool to see one of Sony's big devs making a VR dedicated game. But I think the more likely scenario is that we get VR modes added on to games already in development.
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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As someone who is generally jaded as fuck toward gaming, I say bring it on. I've been waiting for this moment ever since Kutaragi promised me that I could jack into the Matrix LOL
Mister Megative
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I don't think we're gonna see a stage demo. I think we'll get some tech talk during the conference, with direction to the show floor for people to try it out.
Add to the fact that people still think that it can't do native 120hz when it can (and it's up to developers to choose to target that refresh rate, or something lower), and it's just amazing how many people just drive by post and never come back to see that they are wrong.
Dr_LucienSanchez
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Looking like an idiot:
I assure you that if my friends see me with all that gear on me, I am going to get laughed at for years.
Hm, so VR could potentially now lead to long-term friend loss, which leads to depression, which then could result in suicide. I don't know, I'm now even more skeptical about this whole VR tomfoolery.
If you're that worried about what your buddies think about you though, then you should probably ditch video games altogether. Pick up a cool hobby, like collecting coins.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Yeah, reprojection is a good thing to have in VR, but it's reasons get lost when it's dismissed as simply interpolation.
Rizsparky
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Looking like an idiot:
I assure you that if my friends see me with all that gear on me, I am going to get laughed at for years.
The three feet away part refers to move+morpheus games. If you are too close to the camera, the move controllers are going to frequently come out of the cameras view angle and they won't work.
Who cares what they think of you?
As long as 3rd party support is in (Mirror's Edge!) I'm in.
Thinking at least 30min.
AstroNut325
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Good. This is what I feel Sony should focus on.
Again, I don't mean to get hopes up about TLG or anything related to Ueda, but this was a slide used in the first unveiling of Project Morpheus:
I sincerely hope that if TLG does exist, it is THE debut flagship title for Morpheus.
Edit:
TLG or GT7.
Again, I don't mean to get hopes up about TLG or anything related to Ueda, but this was a slide used in the first unveiling of Project Morpheus:
I sincerely hope that if TLG does exist, it is THE debut flagship title for Morpheus.
Edit:
TLG or GT7.
Man this is going to be great, I hope that project morpheus will have a lot of stage time at E3. I just hope that the price will be kept below 400 $. I actually prefer no mans sky and the witness on morpheus to half life 3 and the last guardian. Sony needs to send a message on that they are serious about the morpheus, by dedicating a large portion of the conference to it. Please Sony
Uh...no they aren't? For like the millionth time, just because they don't have a first party AAA blockbuster game coming out in November doesn't mean they have no first party games. Or exclusive games. Or games.
For VR frame rate and low latency are a priority over what it can render. The lack of horse power just mean more stylized enviroments and less of trying to truly simulate reality. It's still a huge stepping off point to have a mass market entry-level product for VR.
The Rift/Vive will be great but they're more enthusiast products. They require rigs most people can't/won't/don't maintain. The Morpheous will be a stepping stone to entice people to upgrade into the rigs the rift/vive will need.
Yes, I understand that VR has to be perfected before AR. I also hope MS takes their time with AR instead of rushing out half-baked VR right now. Not sure what part of that opinion you seem to have a problem with.
ViewtifulJC
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Sure hope they don't burn up too much conference time with this shit, some dude on stage lookin' like a TRON reject with a live demo that probably won't go over well
Neuromancer
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Best news I've heard all day. I look forward to the conference even more now and hearing some hands on impressions. I bet we'll see a ton of crazy new games.
I honestly feel sorry for people who are so dead set against VR. They're wasting time in negativity and cynicism and I suspect as soon as they try it for the first time their opinions will change immediately.
I honestly feel sorry for people who are so dead set against VR. They're wasting time in negativity and cynicism and I suspect as soon as they try it for the first time their opinions will change immediately.
I think Sony has provided plenty of first party support for PS4. It's just they've put out a lot of pretty mediocre stuff so far, though that seems to be changing(hopefully).
I get what you're saying, though. I'm not sure what to expect exactly, but I don't think we're gonna see any big-budget AAA VR-only games. Not at launch anyways. I think if Sony spend a lot of money on a game, they'll at least want it to be playable normally as well. So we'll probably have some bigger VR-supported games, but not necessarily big VR-exclusive games. They could surprise, though!
And either way, unlike with Move/Kinect, Sony wont be on its own to support Morpheus. 3rd party developers are actually excited about VR and want to work with it. That, again, may not mean 3rd party AAA VR-exclusive games anytime soon, but I think there is gonna be plenty to play, if that's your worry. I don't think these things are going to be gathering dust.
Fried Food
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I hope there is tons of VR stuff at the conference. I've been all aboard the VR train since the oculus kickstart. I've got a DK2.
David Ricardo
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My main problem is with move. I don't like it, I don't think it is convenient at all.
Morpheus + DS4 sounds much more interesting to me. Or maybe morpheus + logitech driving wheel or morpheus + joystick for a flight simulator... Those are all experiences I would like to have.
The headset is not the most discreet piece of kit, but I can cope with that.
GreyOcelot
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i highly doubt they'll have a ton of this during the conference. makes perfect sense to have it dominate the show floor. the best way to show off something like morpheus is to have people strap one on and experience it. the best way to do that is with tons of demo units.
I'm a little LTTP here, but... just like clockwork. This silly notion never seems to die.
If it really was so weak, would they really push VR this hard? Please think about this critically. They've developed the ps4 with VR in mind, of course it's capable of those requirements.
Fbh
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Doesn't have to be bad.
But at this point I don't need them to sell me the concept behind VR, I know it's cool. I need to see specific things to get me excited about Morpheus, and a few tech demos won't do that.
I won't go out there and spend $200+ on some headset because at some point it "could" "maybe" get great games and experiences
But at this point I don't need them to sell me the concept behind VR, I know it's cool. I need to see specific things to get me excited about Morpheus, and a few tech demos won't do that.
I won't go out there and spend $200+ on some headset because at some point it "could" "maybe" get great games and experiences
Callibretto
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I still think Sony should showcase those games for the conferences, but don't shove it our throat that it's a VR games with or without motion control. they should simply show a cool gameplay footage. don't have people talking about how cool or accurate it is. I'm hopeful the viewer can see for themselves whether the games look fun or not.
Oppo
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Sensing your hand movement in 3D space is a tricky problem without sophisticated tracking. Short of Lighthouse, the Move wands are a pretty good way to do it cost-effectively.
I know, you are concerned about looking silly. VR is definitively a single player experience. Why worry, even if it was valid.
PodcastFips
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As long as we are below the rumored 399$ (or was it 450?) entry price, I'm interested.
Neuromancer
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Morpheus will have plenty of games that use the DS4. Also Project Cars is a game that's already out that will have Morpheus support some day, so there's your wheel.
Frag Waffles
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Great news for those on the show floor, but I'll be disappointed if it takes up a big part of the conference.
a secret-boss
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I kinda regret that 3 day E3 ticket sale I had
I'd wait to see what Sony show at E3 before assuming that....
You're in the minority, I think. VR is in the air, my friend.
I'm pretty sure most people don't care about Nintendo because they straight up don't appeal to them, not because they're insecure about roommate Joey being a meanie and making fun.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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im waiting a pool, bowling, darts, ping pong, etc party type games to pop out
Probably something to do with people automatically equating anything that creates "extra-frames" to interpolation thanks to decade+ of TV abusing the term. Which also explains why OR and Vive get away with doing the same and not being called interpolationKrejlooc said:
Although if we were arguing semantics, you could argue the case for the term anyway, since we're constructing new data points within the range of two discrete known data points/sensor inputs, which is how math defines it
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