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Scalebound, Crackdown and Quantum Break at Gamescom

jmizzal

Member
WTH MS

Scalebound and Quantum Break are two of the reasons I got a Xbox one to go with my WiiU

Guess E3 is all Nintendo for me then
 
Does Microsoft not have the most confidence in those titles if they aren't putting them on the main stage at E3? Scalebound was one of my more anticipated titles this year. Bummer.
 

jmizzal

Member
You do realize that those games are still coming out and are just being shown two months away?

WTH is going on in this thread?

I remember when E3 was where you show off your big games, its wierd to see them not show off 3 of their biggest exclusives.

I'm not a Halo fan
 

Doukou

Member
You do realize that those games are still coming out and are just being shown two months away?

WTH is going on in this thread?

He said E3, meaning that he doesn't need to follow MS E3 coverage since the games he wanted are MIA.
I would still watch it for surprises but I'm not him.
 
It's not really about Kudo though. I just don't want Oculus or Hololens infesting Microsoft's conference in general. Especially since they had an Oculus presser and Hololens isn't even close to being ready.

Sony was smart in doing a lot of their Morpheus stuff at GDC when it was a ways off from releasing. If Microsoft is out there putting Hololens on parade when it's not close to being ready and they bumped three big games to do it then yeah, I'll be a little annoyed. I sat through enough Kinect at E3 to know I don't want it with Hololens too.

Phil said there's no much room for Hololens, for Oculus, i doubt even there.
Stop acting like there will be 1 hour VR/AR in MS conference.
 
The thing about the American Football market is that there's only really the one choice: Madden. Even the more out-there arcade options are more or less dead at this point. And Madden is... let's go with "less than universally loved." So there's a not-inconsiderable pool of people who're looking for something, anything else. And for PC exclusive types, there's not even that. So I'd say they've got room to do both, at least in the immediate future.

This is how I feel, I love the NFL and I enjoy playing madden every year but it has got stagnant the last several years. If another game dropped with the NFL license I would be there day one in all likelihood.
 
I remember when E3 was where you show off your big games, its wierd to see them not show off 3 of their biggest exclusives.

I'm not a Halo fan

It is very possible that they have new big games in the pipeline that they feel should get announced at E3 for a big impact/reveal. As excited I am for Scalebound and a new Crackdown, I am also now even more curious to see what games will be replacing those on stage. We already know those games are coming and will be shown 2 months away, at GamesCon...which while not big as E3 is still a rather large show to still leave a big enough impression/reveal.

Also, the conference is also 90 mins long...unless halo is scheduled to run the entire show I don't get your point.

We just need to see how the show turns up and then debate whether or not it was wise for them to exclude those titles.

Edit: I am not picking on you or anything and I can understand people wanting to see footage of these games sooner than later but their exclusions should raise curiosity.
 

Alx

Member
I remember when E3 was where you show off your big games, its wierd to see them not show off 3 of their biggest exclusives.

I'm not a Halo fan

E3 is also where you make announcements of new things. I'm not really excited to see games we already know about shown on stage, at best it will be 3 minutes of faked gameplay. Feedback from the show floor or behind the scene demos are much better for that.
 

Tntnico

Member
Well, I assume that Scalebound and Crackdown are the big hits of E32016 soooo...

I just hope they have a lot of surprises for us because I really wanted to ses Crackdown in action !
 

Orca

Member
It's not really about Kudo though. I just don't want Oculus or Hololens infesting Microsoft's conference in general. Especially since they had an Oculus presser and Hololens isn't even close to being ready.

Sony was smart in doing a lot of their Morpheus stuff at GDC when it was a ways off from releasing. If Microsoft is out there putting Hololens on parade when it's not close to being ready and they bumped three big games to do it then yeah, I'll be a little annoyed. I sat through enough Kinect at E3 to know I don't want it with Hololens too.

Uhhhh...who wants to tell him this rumour?
 

Red Devil

Member
Well I am neither pessimistic or optimistic now.

Worst case scenario: Most of the thing spent talking about remasters, Windows 10 and Oculus partnership.

Best case sceneario: The above plus they blow us away with reveals.
 
Phil said there's no much room for Hololens, for Oculus, i doubt even there.
Stop acting like there will be 1 hour VR/AR in MS conference.

And where did I say it was going to be an hour of VR/AR? I didn't.

All I said was, I don't want VR/AR to be the replacement for Scalebound, Crackdown and Quantum Break. If it is then I think Microsoft made a bad decision and on a personal level, I'll be both annoyed and disappointed with that decision.

If you watch that interview with Kudo, he definitely implies they'll be talking about Oculus and/or Hololens at their conference. Whether it's just a passing mention or 10+ minutes I don't know, but It's not as though I've pulled it out of thin air.

I don't necessarily mind that they've pushed those three games back to Gamescom but it doesn't change that, in my opinion, Microsoft needs to do the same thing they did last year which is focus on games and games only for 90 minutes. If they start going off the rails with Oculus and Hololens then I think more than a few people will be a bit disappointed.


Morpheus is also more than likely releasing within the next year so it makes sense in that regard, especially since Sony doesn't have a strong lineup for 2015. I'm not saying it's a good thing mind you, but in a year where they have a modest lineup of games it makes sense to talk about their big peripheral.

It's not really the same situation anyway. If Sony was pushing three big AAA games to another conference so they could put a peripheral on display then I'd have the exact same reaction.
 

Kolx

Member
Does Microsoft not have the most confidence in those titles if they aren't putting them on the main stage at E3? Scalebound was one of my more anticipated titles this year. Bummer.

I don't think it's about confidence. It's more about spreading your games through the year so each can have a good marketing. Plus they may have too many announcement for E3 that they don't have time to show these games.
 

Chamber

love on your sleeve
E3 is also where you make announcements of new things. I'm not really excited to see games we already know about shown on stage, at best it will be 3 minutes of faked gameplay. Feedback from the show floor or behind the scene demos are much better for that.

Interesting. I'd much rather see 3 minutes of staged gameplay than a prerendered trailer for a game I won't play for another 2 years. Maybe that's why I don't get hyped for E3 anymore.
 

DanceLeaf

Neo Member
I expect a 20 minute Rise demo to make up for this. It does make sense to push 2015 games though at E3, then 2016 at gamescom.
Basically this. This gives Microsoft the chance to focus on games coming this year. Who knows, they still might have unannounced stuff for 2015
 

Tigress

Member
I think CoD is Sony's playball now; I expect some Fallout 4 footage instead.

As a PS4 person, I think we got the short end of the stick if that is true (you can have COD, give me my Fallout). I doubt it though cause it sounds like Bethesda has their own conferance for that.

Also, those are all three of the games I'd be interested in xbox one for (if I wanted to get another console. But since I mostly care for third party stuff, one is enough for me). But maybe one day when I can get it cheap I might consider it if those games turn out well (they all look good to me, well at least what they've shown).
 

Elios83

Member
We already know what we're getting at the MS conference.
90 minutes show with Halo 5, Tomb Raider, Forza 6, Gears of War Remastered + Gears of War next teaser, new Rare game, Hololens talk, Windows 10 integration with Xbox, trailers and demos of a few third party games + indies.
I think there's enough stuff and premieres to make a good show. Those expecting much more than that will be inevitably disappointed.
 

Chobel

Member
They must be in some serious development troubles just like Phantom Dust, I wouldn't be surprised if some of them get outright axed, and at best we'll wait many year for these games to come out. At least now MS will have their version of TLG.
 

rrc1594

Member
They must be in some serious development troubles just like Phantom Dust, I wouldn't be surprised if some of them get outright axed, and at best we'll wait many year for these games to come out. At least now MS will have their version of TLG.
It's two months later
 

Doukou

Member
That's what MS wants you to believe. Can't you read the signs? It's more like 2 years later, and that's if they're not already canceled.

Nah, Quantum Break became a Gears Spin-off, Crackdown became a Halo spin-off and Scalebound became Forza spin-off.
 

jond76

Banned
We already know what we're getting at the MS conference.
90 minutes show with Halo 5, Tomb Raider, Forza 6, Gears of War Remastered + Gears of War next teaser, new Rare game, Hololens talk, Windows 10 integration with Xbox, trailers and demos of a few third party games + indies.
I think there's enough stuff and premieres to make a good show. Those expecting much more than that will be inevitably disappointed.

There's no way they are kicking 3 big exclusives to GC only to show us a bunch of stuff we already know about..

This place is weird sometimes. Hahaha
 

rrc1594

Member
That's what MS wants you to believe. Can't you read the signs? It's more like 2 years later, and that's if they're not already canceled.

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Chobel

Member
Nah, Quantum Break became a Gears Spin-off, Crackdown became a Halo spin-off and Scalebound became Forza spin-off.

I know you're joking, but that's because it's very difficult for you to process the truth:

1. Quantum Break: Two times pushed from E3, use a CG trailer and pretend it's gameplay, also Remedy in interviews said they want to develop Alan Wake 2 instead Quantum Break and they won't work with MS anymore.

2. Scalebound: Introduced through CG trailer, no gameplay, now Platinum put the game on hold and they're working exclusively on a new IP instead to be revealed next week.

3. Crackdown: Also introduced through CG trailer and they fired the only guy who can harness the power of the cloud Kompheld, they also get him banned from the internet.

Can't you see? Open your eyes, all of them are in serious trouble.
 

c0de

Member
You do realize that those games are still coming out and are just being shown two months away?

WTH is going on in this thread?

First people say MS doesn't care for Europe and they need to improve here, then they will show 3 major titles at Gamescom and people still are complaining :)
 
Hmm, well it's a bit awkward for these games to have appeared last year but won't this year, ubt at least I hope this means a move towards showing games at E3 that are actually closer to coming out. A reveal trailer x year, then a game ducking out until it's close to coming out (and these 3 are all coming out next year) would be satisfying for me. Which would mean gameplay of Halo 5, Forza 6, Tomb Raider and the gears remaster this year & hopefully they can bring the noise with *new* game announcements.
 
I know you're joking, but that's because it's very difficult for you to process the truth:

1. Quantum Break: Two times pushed from E3, use a CG trailer and pretend it's gameplay, also Remedy in interviews said they want to develop Alan Wake 2 instead Quantum Break and they won't work with MS anymore.

2. Scalebound: Introduced through CG trailer, no gameplay, now Platinum put the game on hold and they're working exclusively on a new IP instead to be revealed next week.

3. Crackdown: Also introduced through CG trailer and they fired the only guy who can harness the power of the cloud Kompheld, they also get him banned from the internet.

Can't you see? Open your eyes, all of them are in serious trouble.

6/10
 
I know you're joking, but that's because it's very difficult for you to process the truth:

1. Quantum Break: Two times pushed from E3, use a CG trailer and pretend it's gameplay, also Remedy in interviews said they want to develop Alan Wake 2 instead Quantum Break and they won't work with MS anymore.

2. Scalebound: Introduced through CG trailer, no gameplay, now Platinum put the game on hold and they're working exclusively on a new IP instead to be revealed next week.

3. Crackdown: Also introduced through CG trailer and they fired the only guy who can harness the power of the cloud Kompheld, they also get him banned from the internet.

Can't you see? Open your eyes, all of them are in serious trouble.

I am going to need to see proof of all of this nonsense.
 

Ushay

Member
I'm really surprised they've moved big headline titles to Gamescom. Having these frontline that particular show says they have a commitment to the EU marketplace, although I can see a few pessimists above stating it's due to them being in trouble?

The real question I ask is, what do they have to replace those titles at E3?
 
I am new in GAF and I feel quite surprised about the responses from GAF community about this.

These 3 games are not cancelled. They are just rescheduled to Gamescom, which is only few weeks later than E3.

With this decision by Microsoft, their conference becomes a bit of more difficult to predict. Isn't this a good thing?

I remembered many gaffer said previously that MS conference might be boring and less surprise because most of games were already announced.

Now the situation is changed. How come does it still get so many negative responses?
 
So no Scalebound at E3? Fuck.

It seems like a really odd decision to skip E3 as Scalebound could be massive and E3 is the best venue to get a game out there in the public eye. Unless they've got so much insane shit they literally couldn't fit it in, but for a game that's supposedly (presumably?) coming early next year they need to start marketing around now and show us what the gameplay is like. Given the typical reception to Platinum among the hardcore, a new IP from them is a big deal and will most likely garner a lot of positivity for the Xbone.
 
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