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Yuji Horii: Dragon Quest 11 will be an offline game, for home consoles
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KoopaTheCasual
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Toriyama was very explicit about how he was inspired by western titles like Call of Duty, while making FFXIII.
No, he wasn't joking.
Scientist Supreme!
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threelights
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Man, the DQ fanbase is scary =X
Anyway, Horii dropping bombs. Can't wait to see what the game will look like (I wonder if it'll be closer to DQH with the graphical style).
Anyway, Horii dropping bombs. Can't wait to see what the game will look like (I wonder if it'll be closer to DQH with the graphical style).
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
This. The past 3 weeks have been pretty ridiculous (in the best way possible). I don't know how the prospect of playing a new console bound Dragon Quest isn't exciting every single fan of the series.
To his credit MW1 was blowing people away on the story presentation front and he likely wanted to try to capture that. Same for Half Life and FFX.
Problem being that those aren't really good formats for an epic RPG, or what I imagine most want out of that kind of game (its also likely why the likes of Skyrim blew up the way they did.)
test_account
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How much was N64 level? If you mean weekly sales? PS4 was never going to end up close to Dreamcast LTD.sörine;170858669 said:
Pennywise83
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N64 was around 6m in Japan. I guess it's possible for PS4 to reach those numbers. Maybe.
Hm, I don't know, I still have a hard time believing that it'll be a home console game exclusively, even if the interview seems to infer that. I'm still going to guess it'll end up on the 3DS in some form, I just can't see them leaving that market for DQXI, it just makes no financial and business sense to do so. If the home consoles part of this is accurate, I'll go for 3DS, PS3 and PS4 then.
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Jpop
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I just can't see PS4 hitting 6M the way it is tracking. It would need more than a PS3 revitalization. That is why I am skeptical of DQXI on the PS4 or even PS3/PS4.
PS3/PS4 is not that out there. Plenty of PS3s out there, and many JRPGs and Japanese-centric titles being released for it. I still think it'll hit the 3DS in some way, but if not, I wouldn't be shocked at PS3/PS4.
KoopaTheCasual
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Well PS4 is tracking at 1 million a year, with a terrible library, so I don't see how 6 million is hard to imagine.
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Jpop
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Look at what the biggest franchise has sold on the PS3. They've barely broken a million and now the user base isn't as active.
You are telling me a system, the PS3, that can barely sustain million sellers and the PS4 which has a 2M userbase could support a game that has a selling potential of 5m?
Look I have nothing against DQ releasing cross platform I just don't think it is financially feasible for those platforms to be PS3/PS4. Maybe 3DS/PS3 or PS4.
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Jpop
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YES
I'm so happy this is confirmed
It's not confirmed at all.
Right, don't misunderstand, I'm not saying it's likely (as I said in my previous post, I would be very shocked if it didn't end up on the 3DS), but with Square has been pushing wanting to revive the console market in Japan, and the fact that the PS3 has a solid userbase and all, I wouldn't be entirely shocked if they went PS3/PS4. It's like, I could see them doing that, even if it's not the most financially sound thing to do. It's the PS4-only release that I would find absolutely shocking to happen.
Kerotan Frog
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This gen, Square Enix is on a roll. Pinch me I'm dreaming. It's def gonna be on PS4, and I'm leaning towards exclusive. By the time this comes out, most Japanese devs will prob be done with PS3.
But you never know. PS3 is still a beast. I'm still not done playing on it.
But you never know. PS3 is still a beast. I'm still not done playing on it.
Sir_Crocodile
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Did he stress home console specifically to differentiate from handheld console?
I'd still be pretty surprised not to see this on the 3DS.
I'd still be pretty surprised not to see this on the 3DS.
Yuji Horii himself explained it won't be a mobile/handheld game. Read the OP.
Newtype-001
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Why not?
I have, as well as the discussion afterward (which maybe you should read), and it's still not clear that it will home console exclusive. Though, yes, he does outright deconfirm mobile, which he has before, but I wasn't referencing mobile to begin with.
As someone explained to me earlier, he does not explicitly say it's a home console, but home is inferred by the interviewer since he refers to DQIX on a 'portable' and then XI as being on a 'console' (the assumption being it's less meant as a generic term since he specified portable previously), and he says being designed for a controller as opposed to just buttons.
It's much like the "bigger screen" comment he made months ago. I mean, sure, there is some kind of inferring to take back from it, but people are jumping the gun on it as any kind of full confirmation based, I think, on the fact that many are hoping it'll be a home console title as opposed as a handheld one and looking at every word a producer says as coded gospel that must be deciphered.
That would surprise me as much, if not maybe even a little more, than being PS4 exclusive. If it's console, it'll be PS3/PS4, that much I think it pretty much sure if that route happens. Maybe Wii U on top of those, but doubtful, Square has given no support to the console in the past and I doubt that will change here.
YianGaruga
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Just like all the other big RPGs that SE is putting on the Wii U then. Makes sense
MatrixMan.EXE
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Hahahaha
KoopaTheCasual
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I take this as a joke post, but Wii U isn't even that, unless we're talking "strictly" next gen consoles, and even at that (minus the suprising Splatoon push) it's losing ground to the PS4.
XB1 exclusive for the lulz.
Those RPGs aim for worldwide sales though. DQ11 isn't aiming for worldwide sales.
The Wii U has 2.33 million sales in Japan, while the PS4 only has 1.5 million
OrbitalBeard
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SE didn't put any major RPGs on Wii...except DQX. Pretty poor evidence on your part.
Still, I don't think DQXI will launch on Wii U but I could see it landing on NX. It's likely PS3 and PS4 though.
MatrixMan.EXE
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You work for Square Enix?
And why would Square want a series with lower sales than DQ outside of Japan (Nier) to be worldwide but not DQ?
I don't think people who are predicting PS4 only really appreciate how big a thing that is to say. Outside of a small following elsewhere, Dragon Quest's fanbase is pretty much solely in Japan. The PS4 may be gaining some traction, but it's not lit Japan ablaze like it has much of the rest of the word. If DQXI comes out only for PS4, and it doesn't sell up to snuff (despite what some people like to believe, just putting a franchise on a system does not guarantee that everyone will follow it), there's not a region to save it like there would be games like Final Fantasy XV or Kingdom Hearts III that has a strong following across all regions. Put on top of that how much they've cultivated an audience elsewhere and have only released a single spin-off that does little to represent a mainline title on the PS4, you're talking about a large risk to take from both a financial and business standpoint.
If it's console-exclusive, it'll be PS3/PS4, and maybe PS4 exclusive in other regions if it comes outside Japan, much like Heroes. While Square has obviously thrown their towel in to the console side of things, as well as reviving the console market in Japan, I just can't see the sense if attempting something to risky for such a large and important project like that.
Either way, of course, there will be salt:
If it's 3DS only: The amount of salt from those who wanted a console game will make DQ threads unbearable for years.
Console exclusive: Salt from disappointed 3DS users will be pretty vocal, even if they'll probably be the minority around these parts.
3DS and consoles: Less salt all around, but console users will still be salty because "their" version of the game is being held back because of the 3DS, making DQ threads semi-unbearable for a time until the game comes out.
I don't think there's going to be a way for everyone (relatively speaking) to be happy whenever we finally get an official announcement of the game. Too many people have had their expectations set up by too many things for their not to be disappointment on some side of the equation.
If it's console-exclusive, it'll be PS3/PS4, and maybe PS4 exclusive in other regions if it comes outside Japan, much like Heroes. While Square has obviously thrown their towel in to the console side of things, as well as reviving the console market in Japan, I just can't see the sense if attempting something to risky for such a large and important project like that.
Either way, of course, there will be salt:
If it's 3DS only: The amount of salt from those who wanted a console game will make DQ threads unbearable for years.
Console exclusive: Salt from disappointed 3DS users will be pretty vocal, even if they'll probably be the minority around these parts.
3DS and consoles: Less salt all around, but console users will still be salty because "their" version of the game is being held back because of the 3DS, making DQ threads semi-unbearable for a time until the game comes out.
I don't think there's going to be a way for everyone (relatively speaking) to be happy whenever we finally get an official announcement of the game. Too many people have had their expectations set up by too many things for their not to be disappointment on some side of the equation.
Nier is a niche title, DQ is a flagship and the most iconic, high selling RPG Square has next to Final Fantasy. They have leeway with that, and they put stuff like FFXV and KH3 on PS4/XboxOne because they know it'll sell more in the West than it will in Japan. DQ sells more in Japan than it does in the West, so the logical decision would be to focus on putting it on the best selling console in Japan which is the Wii U.
That isn't to say they might change their mind, but all you have to do is look at the history of their releases when it comes to Dragon Quest and it should tell you the whole story.
YianGaruga
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1) With DQH and VII and VIII localizations they seem to have shifted to more of a global approach
2) Even for Japan only PS3/PS4 cross development would make more sense
So wouldn't it make sense to have their two most iconic series on the same platform rather than make people buy two systems?
So that's why Dragon Quest Heroes and Dragon Quest Heroes 2 are Wii U titles, right?
Both series appeals to different fanbases who like different things. And any overlap a fan has with the series probably owns both consoles anyway cause Dragon Quest X is already on the Wii U.
Those are spinoffs.
I'm not agreeing with him about it being Wii U exclusive (it won't be, like...there's no doubt it won't be), but I think you missed his point that Dragon Quest is iconic only in Japan. It's fanbase is very small outside Japan, so he's saying it makes sense for them to focus that in the Japanese region because of that.
Best selling home console in Japan is currently the PS3 though. Which is why many are predicting PS3/PS4 if it is home console exclusive. Dragon Quest XI releasing on Wii U is as likely as it releasing on the Xbox One IMO.
This point is nonsense. We're getting less localisations than less gen, hell people had to beg for two out of three of those games.
Do you honestly believe the PS4 won't have overtaken the Wii U by the time DQ XI releases? Especially with all those JRPGs that were recently announced?
OrbitalBeard
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It happened last generation. Some of you are completely ignoring history.
Look, I think DQXI is coming to Sony platforms. But it's funny how the thought of that not being the case seems so impossible to some of you.
Probably a hardware issue and possibly other unknown factors. Regardless even in terms of spinoffs the Dragon Quest series has been consistent in this regard.
IF it's going to be on a current gen system, it's more than likely going to be on the Wii U. I mean yeah the PS3 is a possibility as well and likely, but with Square's shift into current gen exclusivity with games like KH3 and FFXV, I'm not expecting the PS3 to get DQ11 which is just as high priority as those are. FFXV and KH3 are worldwide juggernauts, while DQ11 is onyl a juggernaut in Japan and will be made suited for Japanese needs.
Plus with Nintendo's insistence of stating they aren't abandoning the Wii U anytime soon, do not be surprised if Nintendo strikes a deal yet again like they did with DQ10 and make DQ11 exclusive to their systems.
What hardware issue makes the first game being on PS3 and the second on Vita but not Wii U?
Your point putting Wii U by default over PS3 for any game release decision from a Japanese company doesn't make any sense.
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