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Harada: TEKKEN X Street Fighter "at a pretty far stage into its development"

Codeblue

Member
So it's vaporware?

I feel like if it were actually in the works, he wouldn't need to issue a statement. The smart thing to do would be to ride the doubts and turn them around all at once for the big reveal.

What?

So you're taking a statement confirming that the game is in development as confirmation that it is not in development?
 
When asked about the game before it was a general "Don't worry about it", or "don't ask me about the game"

Talking about how they already decided the roster and the system mechanics is less convincing, because you save that talk for when the game is going to be shown. Not when you're supposedly waiting an opening after releasing two newer fighting games (T7 and Pokken). It's a please understand statement.

This is incredibly strained. You seem to have convinced yourself of a conclusion and are trying to fit things into that conclusion.

Also, your insistence that they have never said more than "It's in development?" Demonstrably false. From two months ago:

He added while contrasting the reports online about the theories of its delay, particularly on those regarding the troubles encountered with its development. He said that there is no problem with the game development since it was more of the marketing decision to concentrate the problem. This is relative to the fact that Tekken is also one of the biggest projects that Bandai Namco has developed and it is on-going.

From earlier this year:

“It’s very difficult to talk about,” he said. “Obviously, I had originally planned to release it much earlier than we’re currently looking at.”

Harada confirmed that there are some 40 staff working on the game and that the reason for the delay is due to how fighting games have saturated the market. He also wouldn’t commit to a release date, not even a nebulous two-year time frame.

That said, he is looking to surprise people when the game eventually resurfaces. “People have been talking about the game for such a long time that they aren’t going to be surprised if you just release it normally,” he added.

Harada also said that while that’s going on, Tekken 7 will remain Namco’s “big thing” for the next while.

From 2013:

"We do have assets created and some of the materials," Harada told Eurogamer. "It's just that we're looking at the circumstances and what direction people are going in, what platform as there's a change in the market. I'm thinking long term about that."

Street Fighter X Tekken, the Capcom produced first episode of the pairing, suffered from poor sales. Given Namco's embracing of free-to-play, with the latest Tekken and Soul Calibur both taking up the business model, could Tekken X Street Fighter go the same way?

"I don't see that the entire genre's going to go that way," said Harada. "There are some fans that perhaps would rather buy a package and be done with it, and play as much as they like."

Though I expect more strained reasoning to explain why this fits your stance instead of at all conflicting to what you said.
 

Codeblue

Member
Sorry should I have posted a funny gif instead?

All the good ones are already taken already

I don't think there's a GIF that would make your post make sense.

I'm assuming all the "Don't believe his lies" posts are regarding the game being in late stage development, not existing at all.
 

vg260

Member
I don't know why people thought this was cancelled. Harada's been out there repeatedly saying they're working on it.

They just had to wait until it was less toxic to talk about it since SFxT poisoned the well. Then SF5, Pokken, and Tekken 7 were all announced because they had target dates to hit, which made it difficult to fit the game into any kind of marketing cycle.

Exactly. The game has been in a weird spot. Why would anyone believe he has been lying, other than to post a meme image?
 

Gren

Member
That's nice, the more fighters the better. Graphics might wind up a bit dated, but given the nature of the genre the gameplay should be fine.
 
This is incredibly strained. You seem to have convinced yourself of a conclusion and are trying to fit things into that conclusion.

Also, your insistence that they have never said more than "It's in development?" Demonstrably false. From two months ago:



From earlier this year:



From 2013:



Though I expect more strained reasoning to explain why this fits your stance instead of at all conflicting to what you said.

No, I'm perfectly fine with taking the stance by itself that a game announced five years ago and still hasn't seen the light of day, following a game that wasn't received well, probably isn't going to come out.

I don't have any proof, but I like my chances.
 

Jinfash

needs 2 extra inches
On the one hand it's a good idea to wait for the console releases of SFV and T7. Especially since both are generating positive buzz, which can potentially elicit positive reception to TxSF instead of evoking memories of SFxT.

On the other hand, and due to the awkward roadmap this project must have taken, I wonder if it runs the risk of being slightly outdated tech and design-wise after both SFV and T7 are released.
 
No, I'm perfectly fine with taking the stance by itself that a game announced five years ago and still hasn't seen the light of day, following a game that wasn't received well, probably isn't going to come out.

I don't have any proof, but I like my chances.

That is a perfectly reasonable stance.

"That they said anything at all is proof it doesn't exist!" is not. It's actually pretty dumb.
 
No, I'm perfectly fine with taking the stance by itself that a game announced five years ago and still hasn't seen the light of day, following a game that wasn't received well, probably isn't going to come out.

I don't have any proof, but I like my chances.
Yep Namco Bandai is just lying. Makes sense.
Just like Sony was lying about the Last Guardian.
 

Teletraan1

Banned
I was always more interested in the Tekken version of the games than the SF4 version of the games so I am optimistic yet will still wait until it is out to gauge if it is worth picking it up.
 

wildfire

Banned
So it's vaporware?

I feel like if it were actually in the works, he wouldn't need to issue a statement. The smart thing to do would be to ride the doubts and turn them around all at once for the big reveal.

We live in an age where companies make announcements of announcements for future announcements. What you're asking for is the weirdo method in marketing.
 
That is a perfectly reasonable stance.

"That they said anything at all is proof it doesn't exist!" is not. It's actually pretty dumb.

It's just skepticism. Stop making it more than what it actually is.

It's like me framing you taking Harada's PR statements at face value as you being a implanted namco employee. That obviously isn't true. You haven't experienced Harada saying something and it being not the actual truth.
 

Malice215

Member
Of course Harada isn't going to say much, but a good time to have released TxSF would have been 2013 while the crossover idea was still relevant. Or hell, now's a good time with the amount of people who won't be able to play Tekken 7, and with nothing else dropping to console.

I don't know how this game is far in development with 0 to show, 0 leaks, nothing to show at your own panel, no other fighting games being released to console, and while development effort being is put into Tekken 7, Pokken, and Rise of Incarnates. Plus why would it be far in development without a release window?

Namco probably saw how cheeks SFxT was after all its buildup, and put TxSF far off on the back burner to work on other things. If TxSF isn't vaporware, then they'll probably put forth the actual development effort after they're done with T7 and Pokken and drop it in 2017, because SFV is going to have the market's attention for 2016.
 
I'm not, I'm saying it's dumb. I'm making it less than it actually is.

Throwing out the word dumb, I don't think you understand "make more than what it actually is" actually means. It's not about content, it's about a person making too much of a minor issue.

If I needed a funny gif, the u mad one would apply.


Here's hoping I'm wrong and your game comes out before the end of this console generation. I can imagine Harada talking in 2016 about making TxSF a VR game after being interviewed for the release of summer lesson.
 

Rymuth

Member
chunli1.jpg
*vomits out his skeleton*
 
Throwing out the word dumb, I don't think you understand "make more than what it actually is" actually means. It's not about content, it's about a person making too much of a minor issue.

No, I understood what I was talking about. It was this statement still:

I feel like if it were actually in the works, he wouldn't need to issue a statement.

And the further expounding on it.

You have stopped defending it but you keep trying to pretend it was healthy skepticism when I keep saying it doesn't actually make sense. It was just a dumb thing to say.
 
Exciting news for people who wanted this, if it's real.

But it sounds like a pipe-dream. TEKKEN X Street Fighter doesn't really have a place in the 2016/2017 fighting game scene, or even beyond. Fans of Tekken will play T7, fans of Street Fighter will ply SF5, and a mixture of both will play Pokken (with added Nintendo fans).

There's just not logical space for this game really, 3 Tekken styled games in a short span PLUS a mainline Street Fighter? The community is gonna ignore one of em'.
 

Degen

Member
The lack of info makes sense

If he started giving out details and showing screenshots, there would be a lot less hype for the console release of Tekken 7

doesn't make the wait any easier though...
 
I was more hyped for this title than SFxT. Can't wait!


That chun LI design is odd tho. It's probably the face going by her previous designs.
 

Son Of D

Member
i didn't know sfxt was so hated. was it just because of the disc locked content?

12 disc locked characters (including some fan favourites and 2 characters that were shown in a CG trailer before the game's launch), 5 PS3/Vita exclusive characters (they were guest characters but still), the gem system (and some DLC gems being better than the ones in the base game), timeouts being very prominent in competitive gameplay... It added up.
 

Ivan 3414

Member
Why do people believe this doesn't exist? Just because we haven't seen it for a while?

If you've read the bits of news that have come out about this game over the years, it should be no surprise that it is still in development.
 
12 disc locked characters (including some fan favourites and 2 characters that were shown in a CG trailer before the game's launch), 5 PS3/Vita exclusive characters (they were guest characters but still), the gem system (and some DLC gems being better than the ones in the base game), timeouts being very prominent in competitive gameplay... It added up.
why was that in particular something to be mad about? don't fighting games sell better on playstation & weren't most of them sony characters?
 

Degen

Member
I wanted to like SFxT so much but the game just didn't click with me

Didn't help that the art style was so rough on the eyes


and on the "bad art" topic, plz stop posting that Epic Games artist's Chun-li render in my pure & honest Tekken thread

I'm buffering the Giant Swing motions as we speak and don't wanna have to press the square button
 
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