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So, who's buying Mad Max next week?
- Thread starter M.W.
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You haven't even played the damn thing. Your fears could be justified, but lets not confuse what you think is true and what actually is. This is being cynical to a fault.
All signs point to it though. The map, the comments from the developers ("completionist's dream"), the track record of the developer and now also the first impressions from people who played it.
Kwansu Dudes
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There are some PS4 streams going on right now.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Has there been any PC gameplay shown?
Xplatformer
Member
Day 1 off Steam. Already have $20 in my Steam wallet specifically for it. I still want to read reviews before I put down $$$
I'm getting a Red Faction Guerilla vibe from it, which is a damn good thing.
I'm getting a Red Faction Guerilla vibe from it, which is a damn good thing.
stufte
Member
This is an Assassin's Creed ripoff? I'm confused.
Krappadizzle
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There has, but it's been mostly potato 720p quality and no real examples as to the benefits of PC gaming(i.e. resolution, sliders, controls) But I think that's more of a product of them showing mostly PS4 footage and brief bits of PC footage to assuage concern from the PC community.
It uses all the same buttons on the controller doesn't it? Duh!
Jokes aside, I'm gonna hold judgement on it being AssCreed like until I've played it, but it does seem Ubi-lite like in some aspects which could be cause for concern. I've never been a completionist and have never understood why people just can't ignore the shit they don't like. With FC4, I had a great time clearing camps, until I didn't and then I stopped doing them. Didn't really change my opinion of the game one bit. That on top of the fact that the Devs have more or less said that it's a completionist wet-dream OR nightmare depending on your viewpoints.
Yeah, all that car combat in Assassin's Creed has really tired me out on the genre.
Strangelove77
Member
They're obviously using the Ubisoft game template as much as they're using the Batman combat system. I'm not sure why anyone would try so hard to dismiss that. It is what it is. You don't need to play it to know that.
Some people are bothered by it and some aren't. It's going to be fine.
The car combat and customization is going to be what hopefully separates it from the rest.
Some people are bothered by it and some aren't. It's going to be fine.
The car combat and customization is going to be what hopefully separates it from the rest.
stufte
Member
I'm going to be completely honest, I don't see the AssCreed comparison at all here. If I were to compare what I've seen so far to another game series it'd be definitely be Far Cry or Shadow of Mordor. Or Just Cause 2. But really, who cares? If those are the kinds of games that you enjoy, it seems like this will be right up your alley. Hell, if I'm wrong and this is an AssCreed "ripoff" who cares? I love that game series and I'll play the shit out of a mad max game with the same gameplay. *shrugs*
British Monsoon
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First person driving;
I didn't say you weren't allowed to enjoy it for what it was.
I'm just saying it looks like Assassin's Creed with a car, in the same way that Far Cry 3 is Assassin's Creed in a jungle, Far Cry 4 is Assassin's Creed on a mountain, and Shadow of Mordor is Assassin's Creed in Middle-earth.
*breath* and that Dragon Age: Inquisition is Assassin's Creed with dragons, and Watch_Dogs is Assassin's Creed with a cell phone.
Doesn't make them bad, just makes them... samey.
Krappadizzle
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I don't think AssCreed is a good comparison either, I think it's people are really focusing on the icon heavy screen and are letting it overwhelm them. Hell I hated the icons that flooded my map in Witcher 3 and immediately turned them all off with only the rare occasion of me toggling them back on when I couldn't find anything else new organically. I'm hoping I'll be able to turn off the icons here too and am able to do like I did in Witcher 3 and just cruise around and let things happen naturally and really give myself that sense of discovery I enjoy with open-world games. I think it'll be heavily weighed against whether the actual side-activities and missions are fun to do or just reskinned same objectives over and over again.
First person driving;
Doin' the lords(of war) work! Keep em' coming. It's like Burnout and Mad Max had a baby.
It's not just the icons, or the feeling of a collectathon, its the way with which content is introduced and paced to the player.
That's why games like The Witcher 3 and GTA V stand out from "Ubiworld" games. They don't feel like checklists, the content comes more organically. Better open world games make the filler collectathon bullshit seem unimportant and extraneous, while Ubi games and their like make it feel like the main portion of the content.
PHOENIXZERO
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No word from WB Games as to if they're going to do anything to make up for the Akrham Knight fuckery on PC but I'm tempted to order with Mad Max being only $20-$25 though I'm going to have MGSV and still several other games so by the time I'd get around to it it'll probably be $20 anyway.
fastballspecial
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The more I see of this game the more I'm dying to play it.
What's with all the arguing anyway? The only people that know if it's good are the ones who have played it. People are allowed to be excited about a game regardless of how good it is or might be. It doesn't mean they can't enjoy it.
I've already got mine set for delivery on Tuesday morning. If it's a good game, then awesome. If it's not... well, whatever. It'll be my fault for buying it if it comes to that.
What's with all the arguing anyway? The only people that know if it's good are the ones who have played it. People are allowed to be excited about a game regardless of how good it is or might be. It doesn't mean they can't enjoy it.
I've already got mine set for delivery on Tuesday morning. If it's a good game, then awesome. If it's not... well, whatever. It'll be my fault for buying it if it comes to that.
dark_inferno
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Krappadizzle
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We're on the same page Antitrop! But, I haven't seen to many specific examples of the side activities aside from the bases, and I thought those looked okay to me. I'll do them until I get bored(if I get bored with them) and then just focus on story beats.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Bah.
On a bit of an unrelated note, anyone know if the engine they're using has much/any potential for mods? Aspects of that ui have got to go, one way or another.
stufte
Member
I just.. I've played every Assassin's Creed game and Every Far Cry game. I've played all the other games you're talking about here and I still don't see your comparison.
Which mechanics from Assassin's Creed are you saying are comparable to this? (or any of the other games you've mentioned?) Help me understand your comparison.
I feel like you're saying "Grand Theft Auto V is just Doom in a city."
Allnamestakenlol
Member
First person driving;
That looks pretty great!
British Monsoon
Member
The patch went live on PS4 (EU) about an hour or two ago. The patch notes call it the "Day Zero patch", mostly seems to be bug fixes, animation, clipping, etc. No mention of pop-in.
NickatNite
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GIFS are looking great. Thanks for sharing.
Seen anything close to these people in the wasteland?
British Monsoon
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Not yet. There's some weird NPCs for sure, but beyond warboys the only other people I've seen actually in the wasteland have been strings of refugees begging for water.
But what is this supposed "Ubisoft game template"? The only claims I've read are that is has collectibles and the map kind of looks like it's from a Ubisoft game, which doesn't exactly amount to much.
Even to take Ubisoft's two main open-world franchises, Far Cry and Assassin's Creed, they're completely different games from pretty much every mechanical perspective. Assassin's Creed games are third-person stealth/hand to hand combat games based in a small, dense urban open-world environment with walking/freerunning movement between areas. Far Cry games are first person systems-based shooters based in an expansive natural environment with mainly vehicular transportation. I've played every game in both series, and I've enjoyed most (without ever being bothered by collectibles), and I can safely say that any similarities between the two are almost completely superficial.
To broadly categorise a game you've never played based on those similarities is bizarre, though, especially when it's coming from a developer which has been making open world games for even longer than Ubisoft.
dark_inferno
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Hopefully it fixes the Pop ups. If day 0 patch doesnt fix it then hopefully Day1 patch if there is one.
Fuck!
Been saying this for a while.
Some of the worst pop-up I've seen. Stuff almost appears next to the car.
Krappadizzle
Member
I really hope so.
They've mentioned how they've really focused on how the Hud does or doesn't relay information to you, but from what i've seen it looks like your standard hud affair. I'm hoping for a lot of customization options or some sort of Hud toggle.
As for the engine, I'd bet it's some iteration of what they are using for JC3.
I loved the video where the refugee starts asking for water and then get's obliterated by a random lighting bolt from a storm. Looked hilarious.
Shit.... that's morbid.
W3s icons and "checklists" were very much like an Ubiworld imo. Only difference is they are ? marks.
PHOENIXZERO
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Seems like on the PC side it should be at least pushed further out due to much more powerful hardware and more memory to allow the procedural generated stuff to come up from further away.
Some of it was, yes. I cleared all the '?'s on the W3 maps and it wasn't fun in hindsight (I'm a completionist). Luckily the game has some really good side- and main-quests to compensate for it.
But yeah, W3 has it's share of these problems as well and I cannot understand the universal praise, tbh. I was somewhat glad when it was over.
Sure, I was just speaking about my experience.
Krappadizzle
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Hopefully it's only a .ini tweak-fix away. Hopefully.
But they could be turned off and for the most part it made for a vastly better experience for it.
nailbombxx
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I'm on the fence with this game. The vehicular stuff seems like it would be fun but I'm really not sold on the melee combat. Looks dull as dirt and shallow to boot. Can someone convince me otherwise?
RustyNails
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I'm as big a fan of linear TPS just as much as the next guy but what did you want them to do here? Make it The Order clone? Fallout clone? Make it a kid's game and turn it into a platformer? The open world design made the best sense as car combat is the defining aspect of Mad Max franchise. So instead of being a Twisted Metal clone, they added nonlinear elements with missions and sidequests along with servicable gunplay/brawl. There is no game like Mad Max currently out there or in development.
speedomodel
Member
Holy hell, I need this game. Noooooooow
Krappadizzle
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I dunno, I like what I've seen from the combat. It seems like it's very wrestling focused with Max powerbombing dudes into containers and shit when you get perfect timings on the parrys. I also like the fact that i've seen dudes punch Max in the back of the head and not just specifically waiting their turn to fight him. That said, driving is gonna be the main focus of the game and if that doesn't appeal to you, this may not be the game for ya'.
Bill Rizer
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I'd like to know this too. I see this game as a potential good 'arcade in an open world' if it gets (hopefully) challenging enough.
Krappadizzle
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Was looking at some previous pages at Bootaaay's gifs and wanted to respond to this:
This is a good post even if I don't agree with all of it and some should see the similarities, because they are there and I can appreciate the effort in typing all that. But again, I won't hold Avalanche's games to the same shitty design practices as Ubisoft.
And fuck those smuggler caches in W3. I did 3 of them and decided it just wasn't in the cards for me to even remotely find them all. I have 245 hours with Witcher 3 and was fine knowing I'll never get a full 100% completion on it because of those caches. I'd rather people have the choice if they want it as long as it doesn't negatively affect the rest of the game and by all accounts those smuggler cache's didn't negatively affect my opinion of the game one single bit.
Spot on about RDR too. I felt the same exact way about it and it is now one of my favorite games of all time.
edit:
For those that have it. How is the OST? What's it comparable to?
Definity
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Nice. Was looking for a handbrake in the controls yesterday.