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[GitarooMan]

The funny thing about all this is that Jeff really liked the game. 4/5 is a really good score for the best version and 3/5 is still good. The five star system doesn't translate to a 1-10 scale (at least not as currently used in most of the industry). So this is all much ado about nothing which makes it all the more ridiculous.

 

[KZXcellent]

The funny thing about all this is that Jeff really liked the game. 4/5 is a really good score for the best version and 3/5 is still good. The five star system doesn't translate to a 1-10 scale (at least not as currently used in most of the industry). So this is all much ado about nothing which makes it all the more ridiculous.

They equate the 3/5 stars to be a 6/10. RoosterTeeth seems to be in the camp of "If it's not at least an 8/10 then that's bad"

 

[Jintor]

Always respect Jeff Gertsman. Never got into giantbomb though, but honestly all this talk of him being a huge cynic has me...intrigued. Where does one start with Giantbomb?

Maybe the Best Of collections on YouTube are good, they're punchy, well-edited clips. Start from 1 and go from there.

Of course they don't get a lot of Jeff in pure rant mode which I personally believe is the most entertaining/informative thing he does occasionally, when something really, REALLY pisses him off.

 

[Apathy]

RT has gotten too big and thinks they can tell someone like Gerstmann something about reviewing games. Please. Gerstmann is someone you can associate with integrity in the games industry, everything RT from it's inception is basically nothing more than corporate lapdogging.

 

[Seventy70]

Always respect Jeff Gertsman. Never got into giantbomb though, but honestly all this talk of him being a huge cynic has me...intrigued. Where does one start with Giantbomb?

The Best of Giantbomb account is pretty good on YouTube: https://youtu.be/0qEfONC419k?t=4m8s

Other than that, just listen to the podcast and watch the content they put out. The people that complain about him being a cynic don't realize that he's been doing this for a looooong time. Of course it's going to take a lot to impress him. That's the way it should be. In the end he always right which is why people get so upset. It's because deep down they know he has a point.

 

[MThanded]

I love Jeff. But we all know he is a cranky old hipster.

Also Fallout was awesome. Can't wait for it to be runner up in GBs GoTY voting. Despite Jeffs opinions. MGS is going to win obviously.


Also one thing that I think is baffling about Jeff is how high he is on Trackmania all the time... Even compared to Fallout 4 that game is really janky and rough around the edges and it is up to the community to make the best of it. But it doesn't get his ire like Fallout 4 does.

But he liked fallout.

Think Jeff is one of the few reviewers to tell it like it is.

 

[bobeth]

I love Jeff. But we all know he is a cranky old hipster

That is so strange to me. I'd call Jeff a lot of things before I'd call him a hipster..

 

[Vire]

Is he really that much of a cynic? Jeff just stated that Mario Maker is the best Nintnedo game since Ocarina of Time. It's not like he's incapable of joy.

 

[antitrop]

But he liked fallout.

Ya, everyone on the Bombcast pretty much likes Fallout to varying degrees, and nobody is really down on it.

Brad wasn't feeling the first hours, but turned his opinion around at Diamond City and was enjoying it. Dan seemed pretty content with it.

 

[KZXcellent]

Always respect Jeff Gertsman. Never got into giantbomb though, but honestly all this talk of him being a huge cynic has me...intrigued. Where does one start with Giantbomb?

Best of GiantBomb is a good place to start. That and the GiantBombcast is pretty great. They have a premium membership which is worth the $5 a month just for their Mario Party Party videos which is beyond hilarious.

 

[mohsinkhan]

Who the fuck are these jokes? Man these guys fail to exist if Gerstmann didn't respond. Jeff is a legend.

 

[chrixter]

So some of these kids grew up got older and started podcasting, huh? (more)

 

[antitrop]

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DARN YOU GAMESPOT

 

[Brandon F]

Started watching the video and the "Why stray from the review hivemind!???" argument posed pretty much ensured this will be both the first and last time I pay mind to this podcast.

 

[skLaFarebear]

Always respect Jeff Gertsman. Never got into giantbomb though, but honestly all this talk of him being a huge cynic has me...intrigued. Where does one start with Giantbomb?

Best of Giant Bomb on youtube as excellent. Myggen also uploads a lot of great stuff on the podcasts/mixlrs that Jeff does. Jeff's Destiny Year 1 rant during GOTY was fucking legendary.

 

[plufim]

Jeff is a cranky bastard but he's 100% right. Janky games should not get a free pass.

Hell, the rest of the games media will catch up with his opinion in 6 months, once they allow themselves to admit something isn't perfect.

 

[KZXcellent]

Best of Giant Bomb on youtube as excellent. Myggen also uploads a lot of great stuff on the podcasts/mixlrs that Jeff does. Jeff's Destiny Year 1 rant during GOTY was fucking legendary.

100% agree with that. Here's the Destiny video for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-TIrS7ukyk

The "THAT GUN HAS A STORY" bit always kills me.

 

[Seventy70]

Jeff is a cranky bastard but he's 100% right.

Hell, the rest of the games media will catch up with his opinion in 6 months, once they allow themselves to admit something isn't perfect.

This is exactly what happens. Just go ask all those people that lost their shit over that Zelda review. I bet they agree with him now.

 

[sixghost]

Always respect Jeff Gertsman. Never got into giantbomb though, but honestly all this talk of him being a huge cynic has me...intrigued. Where does one start with Giantbomb?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9i25M634OdjfjPD9CSlqaBCe0XgrdzhT

Go nuts

 

[Askherserenity]

I love Jeff. But we all know he is a cranky old hipster.

Also Fallout was awesome. Can't wait for it to be runner up in GBs GoTY voting. Despite Jeffs opinions. MGS is going to win obviously.


Also one thing that I think is baffling about Jeff is how high he is on Trackmania all the time... Even compared to Fallout 4 that game is really janky and rough around the edges and it is up to the community to make the best of it. But it doesn't get his ire like Fallout 4 does.

A hipster? Wtf are you even talking about? There wasn't even any ire for Fallout. The game got 4/5 stars on PC and 3/5 on the consoles because of technical problems. He really enjoyed the game.

Did you expect a video review of him sucking off Fallouts dick for 2 hours?

Spoiler

Seriously, a hipster?

 

[Dynamite Shikoku]

Never heard of rooster teeth

 

[Vire]

DARN YOU GAMESPOT

The best one was: 'I thought Perfect Dark Zero was a pretty bad game'

 

[KiraXD]

I finished Fallout 4 on PS4 and share the same view on overall technical performance as Gerstmann does. It's the worst I've seen in a console game this year, for sure.

Weird... because to date... its the best thing besthesda has released on consoles... its the most stable of their games at release of the last 2 generations. (FO3, Oblivion, Skyrim and Obsidians FNV) it has problems... but not nearly anything to destroy it. im about 50-60 hours in, its crashed once, and FPS has been pretty great... ive seen worse games release in the past year... like Unity a year ago.

 

[Rekki-Maru]

yup, Rooster Squad holding the L for this whole fiasco.

 

[ike_]

Is he really that much of a cynic? Jeff just stated that Mario Maker is the best Nintnedo game since Ocarina of Time. It's not like he's incapable of joy.

Jeff Gerstmann is incapable of joy. Not quite sure how, but I think this is why is he is such a great catalyst between personalities and is so interesting to listen to.

 

[Lingitiz]

Is he really that much of a cynic? Jeff just stated that Mario Maker is the best Nintnedo game since Ocarina of Time. It's not like he's incapable of joy.

He just has specific tastes and all of those guys at GB have been doing their jobs for a long time. The typical AAA release or shocking "megaton" announcement just doesn't have the same effect.

I remember this same conversation going on at E3 when they were mostly unimpressed on Sony's huge announcements in comparison to that Gametrailers crying .gif that got spread around. But at the same time they weren't totally negative. They called those announcements really cool and exciting and analyzed what they actually mean removed from the hype. They just weren't blindly falling over themselves in tears saying "thank you Sony" like others did. And then somehow they get labeled cynics for being levelheaded? Weird. Just look at the YouTube comment for that vid...embarrassing.

 

[Ocarina_117]

Never known of these people.

Will continue as if they don't exist.

A tantrum over someone else's opinion varying from the norm? Yet to play the game yet but word I've heard from friends seems to align with Jeff's review/opinion.

 

[BigBoss]

Always respect Jeff Gertsman. Never got into giantbomb though, but honestly all this talk of him being a huge cynic has me...intrigued. Where does one start with Giantbomb?

http://www.thisyearcollection.org/

A great way to get caught up on the bombcast.

 

[Ullus]

Always respect Jeff Gertsman. Never got into giantbomb though, but honestly all this talk of him being a huge cynic has me...intrigued. Where does one start with Giantbomb?

as mentioned before, Best of giantbomb is a good place to start, I'd also recommend Bitesize Bomb for some of their older videos : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0W9JEIihAvfpYqm1slqVCXXxLpRbaQUb

 

[PuppetMaster]

Doesn't get as much ire? Have you read or listened to him talk about Fallout he doesn't hate it? And Fallout on PC got a 4/5, about what he would give Trackmania if not a 3/5.

People act like because he criticized the console version for its fps loss and bugs that he hates the game. I feel like if this was a game from any other company people wouldn't give a shit but Bethesda forever get a pass it seems.

Yes I listen to him every week on the bombcast. I probably know him better than his own mother!

The console version does not have more bugs than the PC version. If anything it has less bugs because less variability. Even Jeff said on the bombcast it never hard crashed on him during his ps4 play through. The PC version has been crashing quite a bit for many people. and people tweaking their settings have been running into self inflicted issues. Only difference is the performance in cases. And performance on the PS4 version was perfectly acceptable to me so it did not bother me.

I suspect the reason Jeff perceived a lot of performance issues is because he said himself that he played most of the game without VATS. Which I think is pretty clear not the intended way to play. Not that there is anything wrong with him wanting to play that way. But he should just realized that when you play that way you are going to have to deal with more performance issues.

 

[Alex]

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Is he really that much of a cynic? Jeff just stated that Mario Maker is the best Nintnedo game since Ocarina of Time. It's not like he's incapable of joy.

This is the hobby that completely flipped it's shit when this man gave Twilight Princess an 8.8/10. Taken out of context, you'd have sworn he was a fucking terrorist or something Twilight Princess was overall my favorite Zelda game but man that's perfectly a generous score as it has some real warts on it

There's only two rungs to be on, either you're some psychopath, clickbaiting hater or you're 10/10, best game ever, I promise this time remember it two months from now hype train passenger.

 

[GalvoAg]

Jeff likes to bitch about pretty much everything but this wasn't the way to call him out.

 

[PuppetMaster]

Never heard of rooster teeth

They are pretty old school. A lot of younger gamers probably would not know. I remember their videos from back long before youtube was even a thing.

 

[Quote]

Yes I listen to him every week on the bombcast. I probably know him better than his own mother!

The console version does not have more bugs than the PC version. If anything it has less bugs because less variability. Even Jeff said on the bombcast it never hard crashed on him during his ps4 play through. The PC version has been crashing quite a bit for many people. and people tweaking their settings have been running into self inflicted issues. Only difference is the performance in cases. And performance on the PS4 version was perfectly acceptable to me so it did not bother me.

I suspect the reason Jeff perceived a lot of performance issues is because he said himself that he played most of the game without VATS. Which I think is pretty clear not the intended way to play. Not that there is anything wrong with him wanting to play that way. But he should just realized that when you play that way you are going to have to deal with more performance issues.

"Perceived"? Don't be swarmy. I'm a pure VATS player and it absolutely has performance issues. Every time I get drops in frame rate it's frustrating and I really hope it can be fixed. It probably won't.

No one should have to "expect performance issues if they're not using VATS". Fucking, what. VATS isn't a low frame rate fix, it's a combat system.

And this is just about performance, don't get me started on the bugs I've had to deal with in the first couple hours of the game.

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

jeff gerstmann has had people yelling at his review scores for 20 years i think he can handle it

also fallout 4 is a 3/5

Spoiler

and twilight princess was an 8.8 in hindsight

 

[TheUnsunghero26]

It's interesting that Meg was familiar enough with him to specifically mention his Mixlr.

 

[Jintor]

Jeff Gerstmann is incapable of joy. Not quite sure how, but I think this is why is he is such a great catalyst between personalities and is so interesting to listen to.

That's not true. mario maker has melted his heart of ice

 

[Yagharek]

The funny thing about all this is that Jeff really liked the game. 4/5 is a really good score for the best version and 3/5 is still good. The five star system doesn't translate to a 1-10 scale (at least not as currently used in most of the industry). So this is all much ado about nothing which makes it all the more ridiculous.

They equate the 3/5 stars to be a 6/10. RoosterTeeth seems to be in the camp of "If it's not at least an 8/10 then that's bad"

I haven't read Gerstmann's review, nor played Fallout, nor will I ever be likely to do either.

But his review can be whatever the hell he wants it to be - its his opinion and thats why his readers read his reviews for.

Rooster Teeth can suck a dead rats nuts for all its worth - they don't have any grounds to equate his review to anything. Its none of their fucking business.

 

[BlastProcessing]

I love Jeff. But we all know he is a cranky old hipster.

Also Fallout was awesome. Can't wait for it to be runner up in GBs GoTY voting. Despite Jeffs opinions. MGS is going to win obviously.


Also one thing that I think is baffling about Jeff is how high he is on Trackmania all the time... Even compared to Fallout 4 that game is really janky and rough around the edges and it is up to the community to make the best of it. But it doesn't get his ire like Fallout 4 does.

I'm pretty sure MGS5 isn't Jeff's personal Game of the Year. I think it's going to be Mario Maker. Also, I am pretty sure Fallout 4 isn't even going to get to runner up status. Finally, Ire? A 3/5 is "ire" now? Jenkies.

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

That's not true. mario maker has melted his heart of ice

He called it the best Nintendo game since OOT last podcast.

But he never likes anything.

 

[Stimpack]

They are pretty old school. A lot of younger gamers probably would not know. I remember their videos from back long before youtube was even a thing.

Guess I never thought I'd hear someone describe rooster teeth as old school.

 

[Jarmel]

as a pipboy is literally on his arm

 

[Wagram]

Having standards is a bad thing these days apparently.

 

[Twin Tails]

Jeff Gerstmann is incapable of joy. Not quite sure how, but I think this is why is he is such a great catalyst between personalities and is so interesting to listen to.

They say mario maker made his heart grow three sizes that day.

 

[Subpar Scrub]

What is Red vs. Blue videos?

Use google.

 

[Bowlie]

Jeff Gerstmann is incapable of joy. Not quite sure how, but I think this is why is he is such a great catalyst between personalities and is so interesting to listen to.

Sometimes when I'm thinking like this, I go back to their Motorbike's Quick Look; never saw him laugh as much as in that video. And as said above, Mario Maker did something to his heart.

Not that it bothers me; I have a lot of respect towards him for the way he expresses his opinions.

 

[lawnchair]

what a bunch of clowns

 

[Ilive1up]

subjectivity.

it's a crazy thing.

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

You gotta have some wierd degree of respect for those coming in here with a "yeah tell it like it is, man! Gerstmann is a hipster! Stay with the crowd!" schtick. I mean, they gotta know what hornets nest their dicks getting stuck in ya know?

Jeff Gerstmann is incapable of joy. Not quite sure how, but I think this is why is he is such a great catalyst between personalities and is so interesting to listen to.

Hes incapable of hype (thats the genesis of all his tangles regarding review scores).

 

[PuppetMaster]

subjectivity.

it's a crazy thing.

I would say people criticizing Jeff's opinions is just as fair as people criticizing Fallout. Both are subjective!


And before anyone tries to say Fallout 4 is objectively bad. There are far more positive views of Fallout 4 than negative ones. And that is the whole reason why Jeff's subjective opinion was being singled out in the first place!

Also Jeff needs no defending. He can defend himself. He aint no baby!