AusRoachman
Member
This is why competition is good for the industry . Without ms trying this I doubt Sony would bother .
Too bad we will never get PS3 emulation though
Too bad we will never get PS3 emulation though
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Sony confirms PS2 emulation coming to PS4
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The implication with "Backward Compatibility" is that your old games will work.
"Emulation" can provide backwards compatibility, or it could simply be an option to buy old games again, or both. It makes no distinction between these possibilities.
There is no way Sony's emulation was in direct response to Microsoft. Yes developing features like this is a good way to remain competitive in general, but the timeline is no consistent with it being a direct response to BC on the Xbox One.
Right, so it could be an important distinction then?
BC = you can use (for free?) your old games on the system
Emulation = you are likely to have to buy your old games again?
Frosty Droid
Member
Does this mean I can finally play The Mark of Kri? I've always wanted to play The Mark of Kri.
Let's be honest, the bad perception of MS is still fresh in people's minds. Anything MS announces will not be met with the some reaction if Sony did it.
MS had nothing to do with this. Go back as far as 2011 when PS2 classics first appeared on PSN.
Except there have been rumours and patent filings since before PS4 even came out
No that's not what I said.
Emulation can encompass backwards compatibility. It also could not. We don't know in this instance.
If you know someone with a PS3 I would suggest to try out the HD version instead.
Dragon Quest 8 with upscaled res and trophies?
Yes please. Might explain why there wasn't a Vita or PS4 version to go along with the 3DS version.
I feel like I've been waiting years for this to happen, which means it won't happen. It'll just be a load of old shit games that nobody wants. I hope I'm wrong though.
Yes please. Might explain why there wasn't a Vita or PS4 version to go along with the 3DS version.
I feel like I've been waiting years for this to happen, which means it won't happen. It'll just be a load of old shit games that nobody wants. I hope I'm wrong though.
DISSESHOWEDO
Banned
Yep, if it wasn't for Sony who knows what freaky DRM feature we would have lived in, right!
Come on, Sony did BC with all their consoles, including portables and all purchases were shared across compatible platforms. What makes you think they won't even bother?!?
PSNow isn't really the same though is it.
Also, they didn't charge for the work put into porting games to ps4 with trophies, like I said. So at least there is a chance they might not charge for this
It isn't. The PS4 is selling well enough without it and it's not like the xbone saw a spike in sales due to BC either.
I wouldn't, thanks to flailing around everywhere. Unless they ever fixed that
mcz117chief
Member
Please, Lord! Give us the PS2 era Ace Combat series for PS4! I would sell my kidney for that!
If we get disc emulation or not I am still very much looking forward to this!
If we get disc emulation or not I am still very much looking forward to this!
Generic Power Ranger
Member
Yeees! Hopefully also means ps1 classics. I want to be able to play red alert retaliation on a device that allows me to map the numpad to the analogue. It's a shame they aren't gonna make link cable functionality work though. That would be da best.
Regardless, awesome news. Especially if it's also ps1 classics
Regardless, awesome news. Especially if it's also ps1 classics
You both have no proof that Sony would bring back Classics and I have no proof that they wouldn't, let's just leave at that. Also, Sony hold patent filings for the "second hand copies on PS4", they haven't used it yet.
Holding a patent means nothing in this day and age.
TBiddy
Member
Don't turn this into another sales war thread, please.
BC is a fantastic feature, both for the users of the XB1 and the PS4. Why not be happy about it?
The average consumer helped the 360 outsell the PS3 so they're included in the massive migration of people which could help sway a person into buying the XB1 over the PS4.
Not comparable to this, as I've admitted, but I think there's a huge distinction between BC for 360/PS3 and Xbox/PS2.
Triggerhappytel
Member
You can do that right now through PS Now. If you're in the UK or US there's definitely a week free trial. Not sure about other regions.
Hydrargyrus
Member
I've tried it on PS3 the other day and it was unplayable for me. My god, what an aweful camera
I've known about PS2 Classics on PS4 for a while now. If you want to believe that they suddenly started working on this after Microsoft announced 360 BC at E3 and managed to get the emulator running in order for Disney to get their Star Wars games on it then go right ahead. You'd look foolish though.
Nocturno999
Member
Emulation is more about imitating the hardware capabilities by software.
BC is more about a console successor being able to play discs from past consoles no matter how if by hardware software or both.
Well, Sony always support BC when possible, but XBO's BC is a great advantage that Sony lacks right now. Even if it's still on diapers.
No, I wasn't saying that's what you'd said, it wasn't a statement, merely a question!
TBiddy
Member
There's no doubt that this was in the works long before MS announced their BC, but BC has been rumoured to arrive for XB1 long before E3, though.
You started talking about sales. Noone is talking about sales.
Sales war? All I'm saying is BC isn't a feature that most folk care about. It's nice to have but let's not pretend it's a major selling point for the general public.
AusRoachman
Member
Not sure why you think I'm bashing Sony ? I own both ps4 and Xbox and love them both.
Wether it's a direct response or not I still think its great to have 2 companies fighting it out.
Without Sony that drm crap just might have happened . Without Xbox live , psn might just be a lot worse .
Without backwards compatibility maybe this would just be relegated to ps now.
Not that Sony needs to stay competitive since they are dominating over Xbox , but every little feature set counts
PS Now isn't playing it on a PS4, it's playing it on PS Now.
SliceSabre
Banned
Eh.
Its nice but honestly it will have a honeymoon period where everyone with a PS4 old enough to have played a PS2 will use it and then most will stop using it altogether a few months later.
Its nice but honestly it will have a honeymoon period where everyone with a PS4 old enough to have played a PS2 will use it and then most will stop using it altogether a few months later.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
If PS4 gets full PS2 BC then it will be the greatest console ever.
I never said that all, also was the last part needed?
I don't think that's true unless you care to link me to some of said rumours? The E3 announcement by Microsoft was actually pretty surprising. I don't know about you but I didn't expect it at all.
You're saying it's because of MS that PS2 Classics exist on PS4, which is wrong.
DISSESHOWEDO
Banned
Well yours is a huge without given what i stated in my post and as some other users have mentioned, Sonys PS2 BC is not a response to MS 360 BC!
TBiddy
Member
http://www.mweb.co.za/games/view/ta...ing-backwards-compatibility-for-Xbox-One.aspx
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Xbox...h-quot-According-to-Phil-Spencer-445154.shtml
It was rumoured for over a year.. more or less confirmed, actually.
Tizoc
Member
What's the Vita got to do with this? You replied to someone posting about PS2 Classics for PS3.
Far as I know PS2 classics on PSN are not compatible with the Vita.
Various sites like amazon use paypal now don't they?
Use those. Furthermore for JP psn cash codes, use sites like Play asia or Japan-codes.
How is that an issue? You're only making at most 2 extra accounts to get PS2 classics, the mere act of making additional accouns takes up 15-30 minutes at most.
Switching, online, between the different stores to get the games you want isn't all that time consuming either.
All it is is a matter of taking the time to do it, which isn't much.
What if they hooked in the Share Play technology to bring online multiplayer to PS1/PS2 games?
We were actually testing that in this thread!: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=186107426
BlackBuzzard
Banned
No most those people said it was not a console selling feature, which was being discussed in that E3 thread, that does not mean they did not like the feature.
Wow, you're right. They pretty much confirmed it back then.
I played it through in full via PS Now on PS4 (and a little on Vita) using the trial, and it was perfect.
TBiddy
Member
That's not how I remember it, but the truth is probably, there was a bit of both.
To be fair, it wasn't really widespread reported, since there was nothing to report at the time. But fact of the matter, though, is that I think Sony had been working on bringing PS2 games to the PS4 long before these rumours surfaced
Whitebison
Member
That Digital Devil Saga
LiquidSolid
Member
Uh, it's pretty obvious, isn't it? PS2 BC PS3s are more expensive because they're rare, they break easily (mine died a few years ago) and people like us really want that functionality. I never denied that there were people who wanted it, I denied that we're anything more than a small minority. Because the fact is, PS3 sales were fucking dire in the US before they dropped PS2 BC and the price along with it.
Sorry but just like the Xbone's 360 BC, PS2 BC would be completely irrelevant in terms of console sales. It's a cool feature for people like us but it's not a game changer or system seller.
please Sony, do it. I need some fighting games
Capcom vs. SNK 2 has a 99.9% probability of coming to the PS4 because it's already available digitally on the PS3, actually...
oh great
do not own ps4 yet, i wonder if it will be cross buy and will i be able to use my PS3 fighting sticks too
Sure, I could do all those things just to play a game (creating another account with another password, getting funds to it through secondary services, juggling several accounts on different machines, etc.) or I could let the multi-million corporation streamline their licensing process