Damn it! I always get them the other way around! Well, I wasn't on GAF at that time and it's a good thing too. I would have been so salty reading that tweet.
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NPD Sales Results for January 2016
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Cod is selling a lot of Ps4's imo.
Primethius
Banned
That is what I would attribute it too as well. That bundle was a great idea.
Obliterator
Member
It isn't just COD. The PS4 is really securing itself as the de facto console of the generation. It always led in the US but there were many months it was close. The momentum of the system is just too much at this point and even the strong Xbox mind share that exists in the US is fading.
Fantastic showing by Sony tbh
Fantastic showing by Sony tbh
Yeah, did better than I predicted.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Well this thread is dead until cream comes.
PS4 being up 20% is good but it look like the other consoles crash .
PS4 being up 20% is good but it look like the other consoles crash .
PS4 is a beast?
I hope these people are all playing the story mode and enjoying the music. Richard Spaven ftw.
Shu responded lol... I feel like this cant be a coincidence LOL
Damn they crushed his spirit.
Nothing exciting to discuss and the top ten is bland list # X.
Good software results! I wonder if we'll get hardware numbers. I'm actually interested in seeing how Nintendo platforms performed last month.
That is precisely the point. You're not supposed to get any meaningful information. It's about utilizing large useless numbers in order to trick you into believing something is doing good. For example, let's say I'm a baker and I make a signature chocolate cake. Unfortunately, my chocolate cake is not doing as good as the chocolate cake being made by a neighboring baker. Her cake is flying, my cake is dying. In order for me to trick you into thinking my cake is doing fine, I will say something like "Over 3 million lips smacked in my bakery" or "The Welcome mat was walked over 2 million times" or "Fork usage increased by 2000%". None of these numbers communicate the actual performance of my chocolate cake.
Someone gifted in finance can probably come up with a formula, but I cannot think of a single financial formula you can apply to 'hours spent gaming in one month' that would communicate sales, value, profit, efficiency, or overall success. You can't measure hours in dollars when you don't know what an hour translates to. For example, if someone asks how much you make per month and you say "I worked 320 hours last month", you haven't answered the question at all. There is simply not enough information to figure out performance.
Furthermore, the actual 'hours spent gaming' number is misleading in and of itself because we don't know what constitutes as 'gaming' (to them). If you fire up a game and do nothing but idle on the menu screen, would you count that as hours spent gaming?
That is precisely the point. You're not supposed to get any meaningful information. It's about utilizing large useless numbers in order to trick you into believing something is doing good. For example, let's say I'm a baker and I make a signature chocolate cake. Unfortunately, my chocolate cake is not doing as good as the chocolate cake being made by a neighboring baker. Her cake is flying, my cake is dying. In order for me to trick you into thinking my cake is doing fine, I will say something like "Over 3 million lips smacked in my bakery" or "The Welcome mat was walked over 2 million times" or "Fork usage increased by 2000%". None of these numbers communicate the actual performance of my chocolate cake.
Someone gifted in finance can probably come up with a formula, but I cannot think of a single financial formula you can apply to 'hours spent gaming in one month' that would communicate sales, value, profit, efficiency, or overall success. You can't measure hours in dollars when you don't know what an hour translates to. For example, if someone asks how much you make per month and you say "I worked 320 hours last month", you haven't answered the question at all. There is simply not enough information to figure out performance.
Furthermore, the actual 'hours spent gaming' number is misleading in and of itself because we don't know what constitutes as 'gaming' (to them). If you fire up a game and do nothing but idle on the menu screen, would you count that as hours spent gaming?
No we are not sure.
The only concrete thing Queso said is that one console (the PS4 by deduction and logical elimination of the X1, 3DS, and WiiU) was above the GAF average aggregate. He later noted that in the industry "impressive" implies at least 20% growth, but he never clarified if that was actually valid or if PR was playing with wording.
You could parse PR as being impressive per or impressive sum growth, but I think we've mostly assumed that both saw a good (at least) 20% growth. But we're flying blind.
Ah, I see. Well, I don't think Cosmic would mislead us. He even often corrects us when we misinterpret his posts. But I guess we have to wait for cream to drop the pies.
Square2015
Member
Current WiiU, Xbone estimates?
Japanmanx3
Member
I just found out he was banned and I'm legitimately upset at that. He was so nice. A blessing we didn't deserve apparently.
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Anyone have the Jan 15 numbers? Trying to extrapolate some xbone/WiiU numbers. PS4 did approximately 227k [189k + (189k X .2)] so my prediction was close.
Edit; I thought I read PS4 being up 20% but now I can't find that source. Hmm, guess we just wait for more info to be released.
Below, nice! Thank you!
Edit; I thought I read PS4 being up 20% but now I can't find that source. Hmm, guess we just wait for more info to be released.
Below, nice! Thank you!
Square2015
Member
X360 PS3 Wii WiiU PS4 XBO :
40,000 35,000 8,000 64,000 193,000 153,000
3DS :
74,000?
Cthulhu_Steev
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Without any other numbers, basically all we can extrapolate is that PS4 had ~47% of hardware sales last month which is pretty damn impressive considering where they were last generation. If the reports of PS4 being up 20% yoy are indeed accurate, and going off the numbers from last years NPD, we have 482k total hardware for Jan 16 [562k - (562k X 0.15)]. PS4 up 20% puts them at 227k. Divide that by total hardware sales and you get a 47% market share. Not sure why they wouldn't mention that in their response if these numbers are indeed accurate. Math isn't my strength so my calculations may be off.
Bitch Pudding
Member
Well, somehow I am relieved now that I took my time to actually read this thread carefully before posting...
BTT, I didn't think PS4 would be able to get up YoY, given it's price cut until Christmas. Good job Sony. 2016 will be interesting!
I hope you're not trying to extract any meaningful information out of this. There's almost nothing you can get from it and Microsoft intended for it to be so. In any case, I will just gladly say that I spend close to 60 hours gaming a week since December.
Of course I am not trying to extract anything relevant ^^ Just a picture of the average gaming time for gamers those days. Closing in on 2 hours a day average is huge imo !
Dude, read carefully. I wrote 60 hours a week, not a month.
Morning, GAF, finally caught up.
That heel-face turn of a certain someone is hilarious. Even TimDog seems to be having a mini-melltdown raging against Zhuge.
PS4 up is good, Siege charting is good and MS PR is a national treasure. Whoever or however many working there should get into politics. Their talents are being wasted.
That heel-face turn of a certain someone is hilarious. Even TimDog seems to be having a mini-melltdown raging against Zhuge.
PS4 up is good, Siege charting is good and MS PR is a national treasure. Whoever or however many working there should get into politics. Their talents are being wasted.
Explain why PS4 is up then.
As always.. why would it? A console purchase bundled with a game is a console purchase.--Not a software sale.
freefornow
Member
First to 1 Billion hours wins!!
War is over guys. Pack it up.
War is over guys. Pack it up.
lightning2k3
Member
You might want to edit your post. Kagari warned that the next person that quoted that image was getting the banhammer.
January is slow. The YOY hardware sales are flat overall. PS4 is just eating up a larger share of the pie this time around, probably because they have price parity and they have the COD bundle.
On behalf of all ardent Playstation fanboys everywhere: we don't want him.
That being said, I'm glad I didn't participate in the predictions game, because I would have botched the PS4 number completely (and I can't stand being wrong...) I was positive that after an incredible holiday season they'd be totally dead for a couple of months (until Uncharted). I really can't understand, what's going on right now. Is there some sort of elevated hype going on in the States at the moment, or why are people bying Playstations in January?
On the other hand, this will be the peak year for PS4, right? Might as well start it with a sort of a bang.
Dude, read carefully. I wrote 60 hours a week, not a month.
Yeah yeah I know, but 60h a week isn't simply huge it's uncanny. In any cases, it's far from any standard I can think of.
Anyway, whatever... I still laugh at the idea of the people that make up those PRs. I can picture a room full of serious people with a handful of various numbers filled documents "Guys, we need to spin this".
Well, I finished my examinations back in December and since then, I had all the time in the world, not having to worry about school. So with nothing else to do, gaming has occupied my time.
Newtype-001
Member
I just hope siege continues to have legs.
I play ffxiv on the ps4 so i leave my ps4 on and I'm in game for probably 9 hours a day. So in a month that's about 270 hours just from me. Only about 30-60 of that is actual game time.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Well there was a double digital decline in average sales price YoY due to some cheaper skus and bundles
Hydrargyrus
Member
Almost 2:1??
This is insane!
This is insane!
Devilgunman
Member
So all we certainly know right now is overall software and hardware sales are down year over year but those of PS4 are up, meaning PS4 just crushed competitors on both software and hardware once again.
KurtSloane
Banned
Where did you hear that?
Dash_Riprock
Member
MS PR says it all really. I wonder if 2015 was when XB1 sales peaked and its all downhill from here...
You can still get Xbox One for $300 while PS4 is $350 on Amazon. Xbox One can't outsell PS4 even with a $50 price advantage right now.
Xbox One is $200 cheaper to buy right now than it was at launch while PS4 is only $50 cheaper than it was at launch yet people are still going for the PS4.
Hydrargyrus
Member
The estimations in the previous page with the 20% increase YoY for PS4...
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I think they were expecting a whole lot more sales with that 'Greatest Games Lineup in History' narrative they were pushing but they got thoroughly thrashed by Sony last year. During the holiday in particular. 2015 could very well have been their peak year. Halo 5 was not the cornerstone title they thought it would be and if their #1 franchise was unable to give them a sizable bump, then it is safe to assume nothing else will. They've got Gears 4 coming in the fall but that is hardly enough to push them ahead of PS4 and any pricecut they throw out there Sony can counter. They've lost and they know it.
Acquiescence
Member
I'd say we're all long overdue a Cream pie.