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Love Boat [Mafia] |OT| Till Death Do Us Part

Coppanuva

Member
Agree with the notes thing. I'm pretty sure in every game I've played where people did that they wound up being mafia.

Did anyone actually see this thing Retroid posted? It was in the same post where he promised opinions would be coming shortly:
http://pastebin.com/ApB47JfB

I thought it seemed like a similar case of non-town-helping priorities.

...A Javascript function? Is that the wrong thing you copied there or could you elaborate on what you mean?
 

Ty4on

Member
What the hell, it's not like Fluxaisis is going to be voted out today and I don't have a better vote.
VOTE: kingkitty

I've yet to do a detailed read so it is by no means stuck there.
I'm also intrigued by this posting notes = scum hypothesis :p
 
This is not what I mean. I'm saying I have a gut feel that kitty is scum, sort of like how you are voting for flame for sounding "robotic." It's more to do with the inflection than the content.

Kitty's posts have improved to the point where I was seriously considering voting boojay, but you're posts the last couple of days have not been great. NF and I both disliked you posting your notes, regardless of the reason you posted them, it feels very "look how town I am" so we decided to keep our vote for the time being.

I posted those notes because QUACK was accusing me of just being absent from this thread and making "I'm catching up posts". If you thought I was saying "look how town I am", then you messed up hard.

Gonna go meta here, but I've done the whole disappear from the game cause I got distracted/bored, tried to catch up later. Asides from maybe my first two games, Cthulhu and Election, and even then, I did in my first ONUW game too

Unless for some reason you think I'm lying about trying to go through the game from beginning and read everything, i don't know why you keep bringing that up
 
Also, imo, the votes on us have been a major dog pile

Personally didn't even see it coming, definitely think there are scum voting for us, as it standing, Hyperkitty is an easy vote
 

batsnacks

Member
Ahh ok cool! I missed the link on it. I'm not sure why batsnacks think it's not town helping though? I'll have to run it when I'm at home to see (infosec would kill me for it here :p), but I'd like to hear why he thinks its anti-town. From the looks of it, it doesn't seem like it would take too long to make.
I think it looks like his priorities are wrong and not town aligned. He spent time making a script but didn't spend any time giving opinions on the actual game other than that he doesn't think we should lynch anyone. He hasn't said who he thinks is mafia. That's priorty 1 for town. Priority 1 for mafia is to appear to be helping while helping as little as possible.
 

Karkador

Banned
Speaking of serial killers, it would be funny if a neutral-aligned SK came along and opened the game with a Miller Tracker claim to avoid suspicion for their kills and keep mafia off their tail.
 

CzarTim

Member
I posted those notes because QUACK was accusing me of just being absent from this thread and making "I'm catching up posts". If you thought I was saying "look how town I am", then you messed up hard.

Gonna go meta here, but I've done the whole disappear from the game cause I got distracted/bored, tried to catch up later. Asides from maybe my first two games, Cthulhu and Election, and even then, I did in my first ONUW game too

Unless for some reason you think I'm lying about trying to go through the game from beginning and read everything, i don't know why you keep bringing that up

How is any of this alignment indicative? I can believe you are actually trying to catch up and also scum.

Also, imo, the votes on us have been a major dog pile

Personally didn't even see it coming, definitely think there are scum voting for us, as it standing, Hyperkitty is an easy vote

Of the people voting you, who is most likely to be scum?
 

Flame_AC

Member
Just want to say that I won't be around for the end of the day most likely due to school, been busy today so apologies for not being as active. I'm considering leaving my vote on Retroid, not for the notes thing, but just because I still haven't gotten the post that I was hoping for.
 
I posted those notes because QUACK was accusing me of just being absent from this thread and making "I'm catching up posts". If you thought I was saying "look how town I am", then you messed up hard.

Gonna go meta here, but I've done the whole disappear from the game cause I got distracted/bored, tried to catch up later. Asides from maybe my first two games, Cthulhu and Election, and even then, I did in my first ONUW game too

Unless for some reason you think I'm lying about trying to go through the game from beginning and read everything, i don't know why you keep bringing that up

that's fine, we believe that you're doing the reading and your notes clearly demonstrate that you've been doing that, but what we really want is your interpretation of what you've read and your thoughts on the state of play

I think that once we can can get a sense of your thought process and where you're coming from, we can move our votes
 

Flame_AC

Member
Wow, shouldn't type when sleep deprived. Meant to say I'm not switching to Hyperactivity for the notes thing, want more from Retroid.
 

Timeaisis

Member
This seems to be different than the account that Timeaisis gave. Time made it sound like his only response to the plan was "lol".

Why are you so obsessed with this? I said "lol at that plan" more or less. I can't quote it, but that's the gist.

It's weird some people are still on this topic of what I said in our own private chat. Seems like a pretty easy thing for mafia to latch on to early and pretend they are asking important questions when they are just coastinh. I used the same strategy as mafia in Cthulu, feigning obsession with Blargonaut's roleclaim, even though it didn't matter all that much.

Anyway, I said lol at the plan. That's it.
 

Karkador

Banned
It's just been frustrating, Time, that your partner made a huge move and is being a bit difficult about it, and you've not really been around or offered a great explanation or solution.

I mean, the problem with you and your partner's activity is that you opened up with this big gambit, and it's completely fizzled out. That deserves to be talked about, because it's currently sitting well with nobody.
 

kingkitty

Member
el topo still hasn't elaborated much on his criticism. a lot of vague finger pointing. like "a certain player posts too much" and "certain players seem intent on lynching someone based on supposed inconsistency and minor things'' and "some players seem to deliberately fly under the radar and not take a stance"

it would be better to be straight forward
 

Timeaisis

Member
I mean, why can't you guys just be straight-forward with us already?

I'm being as straightforward as I can, Kark. Flux did this, not me. You have to realize that:
1) I don't want to be in this situation (I sure as hell didn't choose to be in it)
and
2) There's not much more I can say because Flux has said what he has said, and he represents me, even though I don't want him to. I didn't choose to D1 roleclaim, but it's out there.

I'll answer any questions I can. What specifically would you like me to elaborate on or know about?
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
2) There's not much more I can say because Flux has said what he has said, and he represents me, even though I don't want him to. I didn't choose to D1 roleclaim, but it's out there.

Whoa, whoa there, partner, I resent that. I don't represent anyone but me here; I'm no company spokesman. We stand as individuals, not like these love-obsessed hive minds.
 

batsnacks

Member
Show of hands, who's using retro's bookmarklet?

I will bet exactly no one, not even retro. The bookmarklet only works if everyone types out a person's full screen name every time they refer to someone. Anyone who is actually playing the game would know most people refer to others by abbreviations or team abbreviations.

Why isn't mafia cashing in on what should be an easy lynch? It's because retro is mafia.
 

Timeaisis

Member
Whoa, whoa there, partner, I resent that. I don't represent anyone but me here; I'm no company spokesman. We stand as individuals, not like these love-obsessed hive minds.

Fair enough. Of course we are individuals. I guess my point is that we are perceived as one entity, seeing as we share a role and are inextricably linked as partners inlife or death.
 
Why are you so obsessed with this? I said "lol at that plan" more or less. I can't quote it, but that's the gist.

It's weird some people are still on this topic of what I said in our own private chat. Seems like a pretty easy thing for mafia to latch on to early and pretend they are asking important questions when they are just coastinh. I used the same strategy as mafia in Cthulu, feigning obsession with Blargonaut's roleclaim, even though it didn't matter all that much.

Anyway, I said lol at the plan. That's it.

That was only my first question about it. I was just wondering because the details change a bit sometimes when you and Flux talk. I don't even think you are scum currently, I just wanted a clarification.
 

Retroid

Member
Show of hands, who's using retro's bookmarklet?

I will bet exactly no one, not even retro. The bookmarklet only works if everyone types out a person's full screen name every time they refer to someone. Anyone who is actually playing the game would know most people refer to others by abbreviations or team abbreviations.

Why isn't mafia cashing in on what should be an easy lynch? It's because retro is mafia.

That's not what it does, it is only for the poster to show their partner, you can even set it up as a TamperMonkey/GreaseMonkey script to have it run automatically on the page.
 

Retroid

Member
Do you think it would be possible to make a bookmarklet that shows all of 1 person's posts in the thread? Without cutting them off like the search function does.

Possible but not easy because you would need to send a bunch of requests for each page or post, and then stitch them together. It would probably be easier not as a bookmarklet/in browser script.
 
Dear diary,​

One word: expectations. Fuck it. Care, gone.

Upon this, I swear.​

Dear diary,​

Originality never died, because reincarnation is real. The word is, 'neoclassical'. See? I made that up.

I don't need pretense to be pretentious.​

Dear diary,​

We've swept in and I've turned my back.

There are no banks in sight. Neither to careen or confide in. We remain in formation, nonetheless.

In this perpetual twilight, it is no strange sight to me to see you row by ambiance alone, and to collide with one another betrays the vessel's advance.

We say to ourselves.​

Dear diary,​

History, please. If that jealousy bug was contagious, I would've caught it first.

More like, scoff for me.

Yeah, thanks.​

Dear diary,​

Filling you with recipes feels like I'm cheating. And, that's not the kind of relationship I dreamed of having with you.

We're not a cookbook. Yet, who are we to deny our desires?

Just desserts, then.​

Dear diary,​

Scared myself in the mirror today.​

Dear diary,​

If strong enough material is ever invented, space elevator music should be a genre.​

Dear diary,​

wine gummy bears

market as gourmet, not organic

spiced variant for holidays

could do a gummy barrel skew, like wine casks​

Dear diary,​

'bear-rel'

That right there is money that needs to be laundered​

Dear diary,​

Wow. Class, worth it. Origami is like handwriting in sign language.

Fuck me, I'm so quotable.

It's a shame no one will ever willingly read this.​

Dear diary,​

Tired, later.​

Dear diary,​

Scrabble Scrabble Scrabble​

Dear diary,​

Moving eyeballs are on constant safari.​

Dear diary,​

Told me they went to a concert once where the confetti was earplugs. What a dirty kind of practical.​

Dear diary,​

Everyday, I scratch you. Yet, what have you done to deserve this?

Clearly, we are as a neoclassical Greek tragedy, in the making.​
 

batsnacks

Member
Possible but not easy because you would need to send a bunch of requests for each page or post, and then stitch them together. It would probably be easier not as a bookmarklet/in browser script.
The search function on this site leaves a lot to be desired for mafia purposes, I pretty much never re-read anything because going back and finding stuff is annoying. I think being able to filter 1 player's posts would be nice.

Anyway I'm going to unvote you and it would be really great if you could put some reads together and if you don't I'll probably vote you again.

Vote: LaunchPadMcQ
 

Flame_AC

Member
I'm not sure I understand why you were going after him for his script, but at least you got him to post? I'm keeping my vote on you Retroid, you simply haven't given anything of substance, not a single unique opinion or anything to indicate you are following along. If you make it to Day 2, do you think it will be better for you or is this what you'd be like all.

I haven't tried your script yet, I'm sure it works great, but can you try and give us some thoughts on the game before you disappear again or we get to Night 1?
 

Flame_AC

Member
It's day one, I have no clue.

I just don't get posts like this during a game. Yeah, it's Day 1, we all have no idea who anyone is or anything about the game, but we've done all these posts and I think there's some decent stuff in there for future discussion. Participation is the only way we're going to win.
 

Karkador

Banned
What do you wanna know?

I'm being as straightforward as I can, Kark. Flux did this, not me. You have to realize that:
1) I don't want to be in this situation (I sure as hell didn't choose to be in it)
and
2) There's not much more I can say because Flux has said what he has said, and he represents me, even though I don't want him to. I didn't choose to D1 roleclaim, but it's out there.

I'll answer any questions I can. What specifically would you like me to elaborate on or know about?


The role-claim: are you both sticking by it? Is it true?

Future plans: what are you two planning to do for the night?
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
The role-claim: are you both sticking by it? Is it true?

Future plans: what are you two planning to do for the night?

YES

Hell if I know, we'll figure that out if we actually even survive D1. Maybe look at the other confirmed Power Role, or another team if we decide they're being honest about it.
 

Retroid

Member
I just don't get posts like this during a game. Yeah, it's Day 1, we all have no idea who anyone is or anything about the game, but we've done all these posts and I think there's some decent stuff in there for future discussion. Participation is the only way we're going to win.

Reads from day one aren't useful from my experience, they can all be chalked down to "It was day one, it's hard to get reads on day one". Reads might be better then no reads, but it's hard to grasp at things when there is no hard evidence (see PR abilities) along with the soft tells.
 

Flame_AC

Member
I thought that you, Flux/Time, making it out of Day 1 was dependent on you checking Blarg/Kawl during the night. Did I misread what you were implying and what I think a lot of other people had assumed as well.
 

Flame_AC

Member
Reads from day one aren't useful from my experience, they can all be chalked down to "It was day one, it's hard to get reads on day one". Reads might be better then no reads, but it's hard to grasp at things when there is no hard evidence (see PR abilities) along with the soft tells.

But we can develop some hard evidence by having interactions on Day 1, that is the purpose of the day after all. You make it seem like all that is important is whatever the power roles can find and then if we believe them or not. Discussion is it's own power role, one we need to take advantage of.
 

Retroid

Member
Also I feel as thought lots are over analysing on day one. This external communication between partners is making things overly complicated to the point where I think mafia might have a huge advantage being that now everyone has to get their stories straight.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
I thought that you, Flux/Time, making it out of Day 1 was dependent on you checking Blarg/Kawl during the night. Did I misread what you were implying and what I think a lot of other people had assumed as well.

Now I feel like saying we won't do that to see who lynches us because of it.
 
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