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Reddit [verified] User shares NX info: x86 Architecture, Second screen support etc.
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TheGreatMightyPoo
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Yes, for laptops/netbooks. It's not the sort of thing you can pull on a DS/Vita-sized handheld.
Size and power comparison with Tegra.
This is all kinds of wrong. Intel managed to shove a cherry trail atom into a stick barely wider than an hdmi port while being only a few inches long. The atom soc is tiny and operates on only 2 watts. Also, look at the GPD Win, a 3DS sized windows gaming handheld based on the atom x5 z8550. It is entirely possible to have an x86 handheld because the tech already exist.
sixteen-bit
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If it's BC, are old saves compatible?
This seems patently wrong based on what we've been told, or from even just the WSJ article from last year.
Fake or not it's not like this is a big rumor, i mean i give all those things for granted, you can't go out with a no X86 architecture console today, also second screen support is something that smartglass etc did like 6 year ago, also i'm sure NX will be at least as powerful as PS4/XB1, if the third parties are gonna support it though is yet to be seen.
The only thing which is still a mystery is the controller, and if it'll be able to become a handheld when needed
The only thing which is still a mystery is the controller, and if it'll be able to become a handheld when needed
Spyder_Monkey
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Goddamn the NX is overhyped to the point of absurdity.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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So the guy in the one thread saying he was playing a beta for a game that will be developed is lying? Even though Bish verified him?
Parapraxis
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Pokemaniac
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It's a bit more complicated in practice. For example, the POWER ISA used by the Wii U tends to be found more in servers and the like due to how the chips have been developed.
But in general, yes, ISA does not directly indicate power level.
Graphics Horse
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yes and I am saying a hybrid could be one such SKU.
oreomunsta
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Can someone explain why x86 is a big deal? I'm not in the know with this hip lingo :<
Didn't Iwata say that the Wii U was built with the next system in mind? He was saying that it would help prevent a software drought at launch. Wouldn't that assume that BC/or at least VC carry-over should be possible?
I was under the impression that was why they bailed on 3DS VC, they focused on Wii U cause it would be easier to carry over.
I was under the impression that was why they bailed on 3DS VC, they focused on Wii U cause it would be easier to carry over.
StereoVsn
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Yeah people seem fixated on Intel Atom from 2010 not from 2016.
Dark Cloud
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blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
So following same APU architecture as PS4/Xbox. This is really good for Nintendo 3rd party adoption - make things much easier l guess.
Pokemaniac
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Yes you can. So long as it's powerful enough, no one will care.
Unfortunately, Nintendo's history implies that they don't like anyone's emulation projects besides their own. "Emulator" is a dirty word to them =(
Even if the results are better than their very own VC I doubt they'd be interested =(
Where did you get your avatar from? I love that era of Mario art style.
family_guy
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though the question is if 3rd party devs want to go through the trouble
Sure. They'll port their catalog of 2013-2015 games and charge full price for them.
- Intel is a step (or two) ahead on everyone else when it comes to manufacturing processes advancements, specially compared to AMD.
- Atom solutions are lower performance than comparable ARM socs.
- Those Atom sticks get very hot even when Idle.
- Nintendo won't use Intel.
- AMD is several gens behind Intel when it comes to x86 performance.
I'm sure the handheld won't be x86.
Basically it makes porting games to the console a lot easier, which will make it more enticing to third parties. x86 is the architecture the PS4, Xbone and PC use.
All this info claiming that 3rd party devs doesn't even have their kits yet sounds so dissapointing if they want to launch this thing during the holidays. If Nintendo thinks they can get away with carrying another holiday only with Wii U and 3DS then they're literally done. The amount of competition from others is simply too much to try to survive another holiday with their outdate devices. I can see 3DS having one last succesful holiday thanks to Pokémon Sun/Moon but Wii U not. Not even with the new Zelda. Wii U is done. The competition is bringing new stuff from all sides: VR, top notch massive exclusives and even new and improved hardware with those rumors about PS4K and Xbox 1.5. Nintendo doesn't have any of that (except Zelda but we still don't know shit about it) as far as we know and if they don't talk soon they will become as irrelevant as a tamagotchi. Wich I think they are already.
Ricerocket
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Yeah that was the red flag for me, more so than x86. There was another Reddit guy saying he was working on an RPG for nx and saying it wasn't x86 and based in the details he gave, it sounds a lot like The Witcher 3 with dlc included.
https://m.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/c...ng_on_an_rpg_for_the_nx_ask/d1o2bld?context=3
The architecture they're using is simply irrelevant as long as performances are comparable or better. Going with x86 when they want to develop a unified legacy architecture is simply asinine, there are no pros for them in using it compared to ARM.
I still believe this is fake.
Of course, but it's just funny how out of hand this whole rumor cycle has become. The 3D printed fake was probably the defining moment of craziness haha
the-pi-guy
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Something to keep in mind is that just because the controllers were faked, doesn't mean the actual controller won't end up looking like that.
The verified leaks, along with Nintendo's patent could suggest that Nintendo has/had a legitimate controller that was similar enough in some way to be verified.
It's usually best to not believe rumors but assuming faked rumors can't turn out true is false.
"my uncle works for Nintendo."
"no MY uncle works for Nintendo."
"oh yeah? my uncle would beat the shit out of your uncle."
The hell if true, that thing release in less than a year and nobody know what it is.
It's from Donkey Kong Jr. boxart
Yes that era had such a cool and classic cartoony style. Wish Nintendo can make a full Mario game with that artstyle!
Hot Coldman
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We need 100 more threads to reach Wii U levels.
"bish don't kill my viiibe"
NOLA_Gaffer
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All these rumors...all these leaks. I think I'm just gonna wait for Nintendo to reveal the thing before I believe any of them.
Not that I disagree, but as I recall he simply heard during the beta that a port was happening, not that dev kits were out there. Maybe I'm misremembering.
Frankly though I'm pretty sure we've had an insider here say that dev kits were out there, so it seems a little hard to believe that they aren't...although you have to wonder what is out there when we heavy details and confirmations on the PS4k, meanwhile we basically have nothing on the NX.
Spyder_Monkey
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Oh hey another overhyped product.
BigTnaples
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At least it can handle ports.
The Dutch Slayer
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Even if that is true.
I could make that up on a table napkin nothing special here.
This is all expected / rumored for a long time now.
Nothing that makes it anything special.
I could make that up on a table napkin nothing special here.
This is all expected / rumored for a long time now.
Nothing that makes it anything special.
oreomunsta
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Okay, makes sense. Thanks!
Maybe this will lead to more unprecedented partnerships lol
Orakio Rob
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Every time a new NX rumor comes out, I trust it immediately. Then I come to Gaf and you guys bring my sanity back. Love you, guys.
Unless devs are substantially writing their games in assembly, an x86 processor doesn't really make porting any easier. Most games are going to be written in a higher-level language (in which case the compiler does the vast majority of the work making the code run on different CPU architectures), or are built on a licensed engine that only needs to be ported to the new architecture once and then the devs don't really worry that much about it. Assembly is still used, sure, but usually only in small bits here and there for specific optimization, and rewriting those for a new CPU arch is the least of most dev's concerns. You still have to deal with Nintendo's different APIs, the different performance characteristics of the hardware, etc. regardless.
It's from Donkey Kong Jr. boxart
That would be amazing. Thanks!
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