Ninja Scooter
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The post you quoted isn't even negative.
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MS: "gamers have spent more than 100M total hours playing Backward Compatible games"
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The post you quoted isn't even negative.
And let's face it if it was meaningless and nobody used it MS wouldn't bother with it. Obviously they are happy with it and will continue.
digoutyoursoul
Member
All jokes aside , I don't understand why people play down this feature. What is so wrong or underwhelming about the convenience of playing your older favourite games on one box ?
To me it's a far better BC option than something like PS Now
Microsoft clearly doesn't get the messaging right. I demand 5 interviews from Phil to clarify that, accompanied by contradictionary tweets.
#4ThePlayers
Ninja Scooter
Member
Take marketing slogans to heart, brehs.
I'd say that stating all you can draw from it is that it's being used is a negative view on the number.
My view may be influenced by the fact that I'm rocking a huge hangover at a busy day at work.
The sheer point of 360 BC was more a symbolic gesture of things being "beyond generations" from now on.
The only measure of success for stuff like this is, do people like it, do people use it. I mean theres a small amount of money to be made but not alot, the point is that this will carry on for them for Scorpio, and then to the next one.
Its more of a feature and a service than a product
Can we get the breakdown of stats of all 20-25M people who purchase an Xbox One before we can see if BC is successful.
Triggerhappytel
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Conversations are pretty much going around in circles now. I think we're done here. If you're thinking of posting and saying it averages at 5 hours per owner, don't and read the goddamn topic instead.
Nailed it.
DISSESHOWEDO
Banned
I'm just doing it, page 4 to be precise! Some say Sony fans shitpost, some say BC is great! Indeed BC is great, but has this gen, at least for MS, been the BC gen! I personally don't need BC! Have my ps1,ps2,ps3 and 4. If i want to replay an old game i just boot up the specific console. Bought and old x360 and as of now there is not a single game that interests me on xone! Hopefully this will change with recore, scalbound and sea of thiefs! My entire point is that MS comes with this PR, as if they do not have anyting else to "brag" about or at least that's how i see it! It's great that they are doing it, but focusimg on new games and not features will help them alot, imo!
backflip10019
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Let's look at it this way: It's great that MS is painting this as a success, regardless of how many people have actually used it. If it wasn't being displayed as a success, then we might not have BC in perpetuity on their future platforms, which is something that I think we all want. It's a great step not only for MS, but for the industry. Paywalling games based on the platform you're playing on is rapidly becoming old hat.
Sticky post.
If you don't need or care why are you here? I mean, seriously. And they should be "bragging" about a cool service that is good for the consumer. That's shit you want to brag about.
D'ultimate
Member
Well we know the number is not meaningless to MS as they are still putting in the time and effort to bringing more BC titles to the Xbox. They are also updating these titles fairly regularly and also ensuring that the future Xboxes, of which we know there are two of, are also BC compatible.
Even if it averages out to "5 hours per user", and that seems like it ain't shit, MS is being either very pro consumer out of the goodness of their hearts or it's more to them than what the averages comes out to.
They're keeping track and they're excited about it. As a gamer and future consumer that bodes well for me and many others.
This post needed more exclamation marks!
If I imagine that I still had to have all my PCs I ever gamed on and would turn them on to play specific games sounds horrible.
FunkyPajamas
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I love BC and it is always a huge deal for me when a console has it. I wish Sony hadn't gone with the PS Now option but had instead copied MS's idea.
Good on Microsoft for doing it this way. Hopefully this carries on for the next generation.
Good on Microsoft for doing it this way. Hopefully this carries on for the next generation.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I think (or at least hope) that in the future BC will remain for all the major platforms if only buy the nature of the changing industry, and the more iterative approach Sony and MS specifically are taking with their platforms, to the point where we won't even call it BC anymore, it will just be PlayStation and Xbox games. It will be a byproduct of this approach, not necessarily the focus. It's the same thing I've thought with Nintendo. I think the reason the Wii and Wii U had BC was as much a byproduct of it being more cost effective for Nintendo to use similar hardware across platforms than it was some company wide mandate to preserve backwards compatibility.
Tbh, it is only a part of articles and not one specific article where this is coming from. Gamespot is even citing MS and just paraphrasing. It was only worth for them to mention that, too, but of course nobody reads the sources in an OP and just goes on with their typical attitude.
It will
And if they get OG Xbox emulation working, that will carry on with it as well. As long as theyre sticking to x86 architecture. I posted this mock-up before, but this is what it will look like going forward if MS achieves what they want
I also believe this
Isn't there an issue or something around OG Xbox emulation relating to nvidia or some crap which impacts them from doing it?
DISSESHOWEDO
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The number they brag about is not big, imo and since thiss is a forum, do i have to ask for a pernition to enter a thread and post my opinion!?!
Whatever floats your boat man....
Yeah Nvidia's GPU stuff is licensed to hell and back, theyve got an obstacle there
thomasmahler
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I want Fusion Frenzy and Panzer Dragoon Orta.
Id love if they did get OG emulation working.
I want to play games like MechAssault and Amped again, but my OG xbox no longer works.
The way I see it a small percentage never use the feature, a small percentage use it a bunch, and the vast majority are like me: I've used it to play a few games that I really enjoyed or somehow missed such as Portal and Defense Grid. Either way, it's a cool service and it also makes the GWG offerings more interesting.
Whether the 100M number is impressive or not seems to depend on which side of the console fence you're on but having BC available is certainly positive.
Whether the 100M number is impressive or not seems to depend on which side of the console fence you're on but having BC available is certainly positive.
Sorry to jump in - but out of curiosity - u seriously think 100 million isn't a big number?
Looks like you entirely missed the point of my post. Let me be clearer: to boil this down to "5 hours is insignificant" is ridiculous, because a 5-hour average among ALL users-- when including the likely significant number of users with ZERO usage--suggests pretty high usage among those that use it. As in, quite a bit more than 5 hours.
I can only conclude that the people claiming that this statistic shows insignificant demand are either jealous, delusional, or just fanboys.
I want Ori 2
what even kind of question is this? it's all relative and depends on context. in certain contexts 500 is a big number
Monty Mole
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With the age of digital content, BC is a bigger deal now than it has ever been in the past. BC on XBO opens up a huge catalogue of content on the console for anyone who bought XBLA games etc on 360. It's not the same as digging out an old 360 disc from the garage, it's about being able to still dip in and out of games like Peggle, Geometry Wars etc that you purchased on your 360, and the games being right there in your library with the XBO games. The support for retail discs is the icing on the cake.
Samurai G0SU
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So a feature, provided to xbox one owners for free, has some usage. Yet, a lot of people are negative about this? what in the....??? so confusing....
And am i reading this right?? that these people who dislike a free feature, would rather have a re-master and pay more money to play the game you may already own?
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Congrats to the engineering team that continuously work on the xbox platform to make it amazing for gamers. I appreciate that i am able to play xbox 360 games on my xbox one for free. BC for a great era of gaming for me pesronally. Just waiting for them to announce lost odyssey and blue dragon now
And am i reading this right?? that these people who dislike a free feature, would rather have a re-master and pay more money to play the game you may already own?
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Congrats to the engineering team that continuously work on the xbox platform to make it amazing for gamers. I appreciate that i am able to play xbox 360 games on my xbox one for free. BC for a great era of gaming for me pesronally. Just waiting for them to announce lost odyssey and blue dragon now
Ninja Scooter
Member
Ninja, it seems like we're either with them or against them in this case
You could try Amped and Mechassault 2 on the 360 but it's pretty nasty performance
rokkerkory
Member
MS please make every xbox game forward compatible going fwd
digoutyoursoul
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wapplew
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It's like every "no reason to own Xbox" statement equal to fan boy look stupid try to find a loophole within MS perfect plan, trying to make sense of 100m hours is BC hater now.
Total BC usage percentage among all Xbox activity like 10% of Xbox usage are BC titles would be a much useful number.
chronic_archaic
Member
Still can't believe this is actually a real thing
Might as well add some more fun figures to help/complicate things
Just some fun figures, not necessarily related:
Here's the info that helps expand on this announcement and puts it into some perspective. Again, more data would be helpful, but this is what we have to go on.
So at least double the growth since launch, again, nothing scientific but it shows definite interest/growth.
EDIT: Obviously, the majority of these BC hours are from GWG games or games people have already purchased, but as RDR has shown, digital sales (which cost little to nothing as opposed to cranking out a physical copy) can bring in a decent amount of sales potentially, even moreso if they have microtransactions/dlc (provided MS figures this part out)
Just some fun figures, not necessarily related:
Here's the info that helps expand on this announcement and puts it into some perspective. Again, more data would be helpful, but this is what we have to go on.
So at least double the growth since launch, again, nothing scientific but it shows definite interest/growth.
EDIT: Obviously, the majority of these BC hours are from GWG games or games people have already purchased, but as RDR has shown, digital sales (which cost little to nothing as opposed to cranking out a physical copy) can bring in a decent amount of sales potentially, even moreso if they have microtransactions/dlc (provided MS figures this part out)
Chronospherics
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It's much more meaningful that way yeah, good to hear that some people at least make some use of it.
It would be nice to know how proportionate that is to other play time. I think it's harder to justify backward compatibility if it were to only represent 5% of usage, for instance.
I would say it is way below 5%. As an example Black ops 2 had 150 million hours in 15 days.
Both sides are failing to see the other sides point of view. BC is great and adds value at the same time it is not very widely used in comparison to current gen games.
Another example: Destiny had 876M hours logged in 3 months, one game (though several platforms) and not included with GWG.
I think BC will be as successful as it's historically been. Cool feature but not used that often.
Well, obviously only one person used it for 100 million hours, then.
You should just keep posting.
AstroNut325
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I'll be honest. I'm jealous. I would really love to play GT6 with the DFGT on my PS4.