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[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Nintendo already have an accesory problem between Wii and WiiU.

You go into the store to buy one you ses:

-Wii Remote (works with select games)
-Nunchuck (works with select games)
-Pro controller (works with select games)
-Gamecube Controllers (works with one game)
-Gamecube adapters (works with one game)
-Amiibo (works with select games)
-3DS Amiibo adapter (works with select games)
-3rd party sleeves for wii remotes
-3rd party screen protectors for 3DS
-3rd party screen protectors for Wii U gamepad
-Stylus for Wii U and 3DS

You look at PS4:
-PS4 controller
-PS4 Camera
-PS4 headset

Xbox:
-Kinect? (hardly)
-Xbox Controller
-Xbox Headset

Theres probably a bunch more extra shit but Nintendo by fat have the most questionsble accesories, and clutter to sell to consumers. Do they really need to do that with NX and sell seperate detachable controllers and controller parts? Come on yall

 

[EVH]

Not sure if I'm a bit late or if anyone still cares, but NX being "compatible" with mobile games likely doesn't refer to mobile games being playable on NX, but taking data from your mobile game save and transferring it to NX games and applications. MiiMaker, for example, connecting to Miitomo so you can download the clothes you have won. This would give Miitomo a considerable push making it a long term product and would make spending time and money on clothes worth it since you can use them in other games

That is how it sounds when you read the brasilian guy. Adding Android just to be able to play with some clearly smartphone focused games would be a mess, specially for the performance of the rest of games.

I'm more and more convinced that NX is going to have a Tegra based heart but customized and between X1 and X2. It won't be X2 and I'm also not sure it will be 16mm, but I would not expect this machine to be a powerhorse. The only thing I want is a good support from Nintendo, a good online community and posibly the hardest thing to get: a good third party support.

These reasons are why I dont buy a Nintendo machine since DS.

 

[KingSnake]

Not sure if detachable controllers make sense.

That means the handheld as a whole will have 3 batteries and 3 bluetooth chips when put together?

Extra weight is never a good thing for hh devices.

The 3 batteries can weight together as much as one big (normal) battery when attached, A Bluetooth chip should be negligible.

 

[R00bot]

Nintendo already have an accesory problem between Wii and WiiU.

You go into the store to buy one you ses:

-Wii Remote (works with select games)
-Nunchuck (works with select games)
-Pro controller (works with select games)
-Gamecube Controllers (works with one game)
-Gamecube adapters (works with one game)
-Amiibo (works with select games)
-3DS Amiibo adapter (works with select games)
-3rd party sleeves for wii remotes
-3rd party screen protectors for 3DS
-3rd party screen protectors for Wii U gamepad
-Stylus for Wii U and 3DS

You look at PS4:
-PS4 controller
-PS4 Camera
-PS4 headset

Xbox:
-Kinect? (hardly)
-Xbox Controller
-Xbox Headset

Theres probably a bunch more extra shit but Nintendo by fat have the most questionsble accesories, and clutter to sell to consumers. Do they really need to do that with NX and sell seperate detachable controllers and controller parts? Come on yall

Totally ignoring a lot of accessories for the PS4 and Xbox One but I agree with your point mostly.

 

[KingSnake]

Lol, accessories are the most profitable hardware in this business.

 

[Oregano]

Not sure if detachable controllers make sense.

That means the handheld as a whole will have 3 batteries and 3 bluetooth chips when put together?

Extra weight is never a good thing for hh devices.

The batteries could be an issue but it could use IR like the CP Pro.

Also not every multilayer game would need to be playable with each half of the controller. Lots of Wii games could use just the Wigmore but not all.

Games like Nsmb, Smash Bros, Mario Kart and Mario Party would easily be playable with stick+four buttons.

 

[KingSnake]

Normal case scenario you have clickable stick + 4 buttons + scrollable shoulder + trigger. That it's enough for any Nintendo game I can think of.

 

[Plinko]

Agree 100%. So sad the Wii was not respected as much because of its lack of HD. It was an amazing "gaming" console.

Easily the most underrated gaming library of all time.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Both controllers can have as many buttons as Nintendo think it's necessary. Scroll shoulders can help with that. You're inventing a limit based on the mock-ups as I said.



In a world in which Wii U Pro controller runs 80 hours on battery this is a made up problem.




I haven't fallen in love with this part of the concept, I actually like the idea of a powerful handheld mostly. But I don't think the concept is as complicated as you make it.

1. Yes, as many buttons as Nintendo deems as necessary or what they need? Knowing Nintendo they have done things like building controllers based on what they think is necessary and not include things like analog triggers.

2. I dont think its a problem but its still an incovience to charge extra controllers and them having their own batteries.

3. I think it is complicated. So much that when they reveal it, it wont have this hook. If it does I'll hold the L and wear the eggplant emoji for a year. 🍆

 

[Starchasing]

The batteries could be an issue but it could use IR like the CP Pro.

Also not every multilayer game would need to be playable with each half of the controller. Lots of Wii games could use just the Wigmore but not all.

Games like Nsmb, Smash Bros, Mario Kart and Mario Party would easily be playable with stick+four buttons.

Games using this feature will be simple and short. batteries will not be a problem.

Also, when docked you need the 2 controllers to be wireless in order to play on the TV

Nintendo already have an accesory problem between Wii and WiiU.

You go into the store to buy one you ses:

-Wii Remote (works with select games)
-Nunchuck (works with select games)
-Pro controller (works with select games)
-Gamecube Controllers (works with one game)
-Gamecube adapters (works with one game)
-Amiibo (works with select games)
-3DS Amiibo adapter (works with select games)
-3rd party sleeves for wii remotes
-3rd party screen protectors for 3DS
-3rd party screen protectors for Wii U gamepad
-Stylus for Wii U and 3DS

You look at PS4:
-PS4 controller
-PS4 Camera
-PS4 headset

Xbox:
-Kinect? (hardly)
-Xbox Controller
-Xbox Headset

Theres probably a bunch more extra shit but Nintendo by fat have the most questionsble accesories, and clutter to sell to consumers. Do they really need to do that with NX and sell seperate detachable controllers and controller parts? Come on yall

I think they will simplify and make just one controller, since there is no BC there'll not be wiimote compatibility.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Totally ignoring a lot of accessories for the PS4 and Xbox One but I agree with your point mostly.

Oh trust me I did it on purpose, but glad you agree and see what im saying.

 

[fabricated backlash]

Yeah im not buying that 2 controller part. I dont think it will be used for that purpose if its true.

Just dance will def. Use them for multiplayer

 

[Oregano]

Games using this feature will be simple and short. batteries will not be a problem.

Also, when docked you need the 2 controllers to be wireless in order to play on the TV






I think they will simplify and make just one controller, since there is no BC there'll not be wiimote compatibility.

Oh duh you're completely correct. They do need to be Bluetooth. Also noticed my phone autocorrected Wiimote.

 

[Jackano]

Not sure if detachable controllers make sense.

That means the handheld as a whole will have 3 batteries and 3 bluetooth chips when put together?

Extra weight is never a good thing for hh devices.

The batteries could be an issue but it could use IR like the CP Pro.

Also not every multilayer game would need to be playable with each half of the controller. Lots of Wii games could use just the Wigmore but not all.

Games like Nsmb, Smash Bros, Mario Kart and Mario Party would easily be playable with stick+four buttons.

That's why I think (posted yesterday) the sku will get another controller part to rebuild something like a pro controller when you detach them. I don't believe you detach two controller parts to make two new controllers, I believe you detach them to get one pro controller when playing on the TV.

 

[KingSnake]

If detachable controllers have also motion controls/gyro, you have almost too many options.

Edit: and Just Dance says they will.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Just dance will def. Use them for multiplayer

No, if this is a handheld tablet like device, just dance will be played via the camera.

 

[KingSnake]

No, if this is a handheld tablet like device, just dance will be played via the camera.

You're too blocked in standard concepts.

 

[brainchild]

If detachable controllers have also motion controls/gyro, you have almost too many options.

Edit: and Just Dance says they will.

I prefer detached controllers anyway. Way more comfortable and intuitive for pointer controls and FPS.

 

[MuchoMalo]

Not using cutting edge technology because it has no track-record is not stupid, It's incredibly sensible. There's a reason why NASA elected to use Playstation 1 CPUs in the New Horizons probe.

If your tech isn't reliable it can cost you severely. Microsoft lost a lot of money due to RROD.

Pascal is basically just Maxwell on a new process, and it's already out well before the NX launch. It's more than proven enough. On top of this, TSMC's 20nm SoC was a pretty bad process and doesn't have an easy route to being shrunk... except to Pascal. Which means that Nintendo would be throwing away 30-50% extra performance and gaining nothing from it.

 

[Straight Edge]

Nintendo already have an accesory problem between Wii and WiiU.

You go into the store to buy one you ses:

-Wii Remote (works with select games)
-Nunchuck (works with select games)
-Pro controller (works with select games)
-Gamecube Controllers (works with one game)
-Gamecube adapters (works with one game)
-Amiibo (works with select games)
-3DS Amiibo adapter (works with select games)
-3rd party sleeves for wii remotes
-3rd party screen protectors for 3DS
-3rd party screen protectors for Wii U gamepad
-Stylus for Wii U and 3DS

You look at PS4:
-PS4 controller
-PS4 Camera
-PS4 headset

Xbox:
-Kinect? (hardly)
-Xbox Controller
-Xbox Headset

Theres probably a bunch more extra shit but Nintendo by fat have the most questionsble accesories, and clutter to sell to consumers. Do they really need to do that with NX and sell seperate detachable controllers and controller parts? Come on yall

Yes, I'm not filling my house with plastic junk to play the NX. This thing needs to be elegant for me to even consider it.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

You're too blocked in standard concepts.

We'll see. This sound like a constructive ass device. Too many connections, attatchments, removing, sliding, inserting. Too many components especially if intended for how you guys wish to use. Nintendo will have to build it in compliance that people will always be using the device to the fullest.

Microsoft stated before that the Xbox One was designed to be used, while staying on for 10 years straight. Maybe it was PR, but if Nintendo builds a device that can do all of these things it has to function properly 100% of the time without faulting the customer due to natrual wear and tear.

 

[TLZ]

It doesn't have to be 2 full controllers, it could be a very simple controller.

And Nintendo have been experimenting with this:

In the patent you can only change the d-pad or buttons. But in the final product might as well be the whole controller.



Have you ever tried a Gameboy Micro? Plus, the 2 controllers are for casual local multiplayer play, not 9 hours of Monster Hunter.

So how'd you play Fifa with that?

 

[Matbtz]

So now we are eagerly anticipating the moment NathanDrake will spill the beans on NX...and 15 pages ago there was a joke who will reveal first Sony or Nintendo, and that Sony will reveal the NX first :-D Guess some people were kinda right

Yep that's right... Keep actualizing... I hope the new informations are about the dock not being dumb, more precise information of the detachable controllers and maybe more info about the form factor (screen size of the dev kit ?).

 

[Zalman]

Yes, I'm not filling my house with plastic junk to play the NX. This thing needs to be elegant for me to even consider it.

All of these things are optional. You can ignore them if you don't want them.

 

[PSFan]

Agree 100%. So sad the Wii was not respected as much because of its lack of HD. It was an amazing "gaming" console.

Easily the most underrated gaming library of all time.

In your opinion, sure. In my opinion, it wasn't that great at all, and felt like the start of the decline in my enjoyment of Nintendo games. I much preferred the GCN entries of their IPs to the Wii. And then the WiiU only furthered that decline, as I enjoyed their new entries of their series even less.

 

[Straight Edge]

All of these things are optional. You can ignore them if you don't want them.

Which made it easier to ignore the system entirely.

 

[R00bot]

In your opinion, sure. In my opinion, it wasn't that great at all, and felt like the start of the decline in my enjoyment of Nintendo games. I much preferred the GCN entries of their IPs to the Wii. And then the WiiU only furthered that decline, as I enjoyed their new entries of their series even less.

Strange, I felt the exact opposite. In my opinion most of their games on the Wii U were the best in their series', even though MK8 had bad battle mode.

 

[King Gilga]

This will either be the best or the worst thing.

But I take this as meaning no WiiU BC, which is a bit disappointing as I don't ever plan to buy a Wii U but have like 3 SP games on it I wouldn't mind playing but are too niche for my wiiu owning friends to have.

I'm interesting to see how this pans out.

Better be region free yo.

 

[Anth0ny]

I don't believe in the whole "slide out components" shit for the controller. sounds way too convoluted and confusion for a nintendo controller. the new 3ds layout is fine for all games. no need to mess with that.

Easily the most underrated gaming library of all time.

i'd probably give that honor to wii u, as at least 100 million people got to experience the wii library!

 

[Danneee]

This is what I've expected since the Eurogamer leak. There's no way the two detachable controllers can each work separately and as part of one large controller otherwise.

For the controllers to work separately, they must be identical. Or capable of being identical. To provide a modern control experience, they must NOT be identical. Or capable of not being identical.

Therefore the controller must be modular in some way, imo. Perfect illustration, great job.

They can just dump the d-pad. It's totally unnecessary for modern games. And then the controllers can easily be identical.

Edit: and for those few that absolutely must have a d-pad I'm sure they'll sell a controller with one.
I also don't think that virtual console will be a part of the new console and that Nintendo will sell Classic Mini consoles to those who feel the retro need instead.

 

[Dagobert Duck]

In your opinion, sure. In my opinion, it wasn't that great at all, and felt like the start of the decline in my enjoyment of Nintendo games. I much preferred the GCN entries of their IPs to the Wii. And then the WiiU only furthered that decline, as I enjoyed their new entries of their series even less.

Well it may be completly subjective, but you prefered Mario Sunshine over Galaxy 1 and 2? 3D World is a better game than Sunshine too...I can see WindWaker above Skyward Sword and Twillight Princess, ok but saying that the GC Library is above Wiis library seems harsh...

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

All of these things are optional. You can ignore them if you don't want them.

True, but that can be overwhelming.. leading to negativity

 

[Clockwork]

Pretty much! Fanboys had to use something to justify their console over the Wii. It was a "toy" "novelty" and only for "soccer moms."

Let's get out of here with that bs right now.

It was largely a toy, novelty, and only for soccer moms. But it came at a time where that wasn't necessarily a bad thing (from a casual perspective) so it saw tremendous success.

I think I used mine to play GameCube games more than I did Wii games.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

You just reminded me how much I loved my Wii U. And hated that tablet. Such an awful, clunky piece of hardware.

 

[Sadist]

Wii <3

Awesome system.

 

[ASIS]

In your opinion, sure. In my opinion, it wasn't that great at all, and felt like the start of the decline in my enjoyment of Nintendo games. I much preferred the GCN entries of their IPs to the Wii. And then the WiiU only furthered that decline, as I enjoyed their new entries of their series even less.

This was Nintendo's first attempt at creating a whole unique controller so there were large bumps on the way. When it did work, however, it changed the entire game to me. You can say what you like but the Wii library of games are inventive, diverse, unique, and above all fantastic. And that was largely because of its controller.

Having an upgraded controller that allows for conventional use + split + upgraded Wiimote and Nunchuck functionality + ergonomics.. oh my.

 

[Sorcerer]

But can I put my NX on the floor and play Golf?

 

[Rodin]

Probably already discussed, but this

looks a lot like this

and i think it's the best way to have standard controls on both the home and the portable without making a giant, possibly uncomfortable controller. Just make the screen detachable to plug it into the dock et voilà.

Which makes me think: are all the people who complained about Nintendo's "weird" controllers in the past few gens relieved that this time they apparently went with a standard control scheme? I didn't see them exulting.

 

[James Scott]

One of the benefits Wii had as that it allowed Nintendo to take what they learned with GameCube and make really great software. Even if it's just the X1, being that step up from Wii U with their HD experience could be pretty good especially if they don't have to split their resources between multiple different systems.
They're starting this generation with HD experience and tech. The Zelda Graphics and Physics engine is something they've invested a lot of time and money into and they'll have it ready by the system's launch. There's also the Xenoblade X engine that had features disabled due to the weaker hardware. It's pretty amazing for crafting massive worlds and handling scale.
I'm hoping Nintendo uses what it has learned this generation to get it right. I feel pretty good about it so far so I hope he reveal turns out ok

 

[Galava]

But can I put my NX on the floor and play Golf?

Yeah, anywhere; in the subway, at work... Just unplug the controllers and put the console on the floor. (You imagine the rest of the game)

REVOLUTIONARY

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Probably already discussed, but this



looks a lot like this



and i think it's the best way to have standard controls on both the home and the portable without making a giant, possibly uncomfortable controller. Just make the screen detachable to plug it into the dock et voilà.

Which makes me think: are all the people who complained about Nintendo's "weird" controllers in the past few gens relieved that this time they apparently went with a standard control scheme? I didn't see them exulting.

I talk about this every day. Everyone ignores me and calls me weird. Jokes on them when this shit gets revealed. Falco controller even got bumpers that could be molded into scrolling wheels.

 

[maxcriden]

Kotaku, IGN, MCV twice.

They each had individual sources of their own?

Is Emily still even relevant at this point?

Sure, she's had plenty of wins in the past.

 

[Galava]

I talk about this every day. Everyone ignores me and calls me weird. Jokes on them when this shit gets revealed. Falco controller even got bumpers that could be molded into scrolling wheels.

What if the side-controllers exist, but you can also "dock" a pro controller to the bottom of the console(screen)?

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

What if the side-controllers exist, but you can also "dock" a pro controller to the bottom of the console(screen)?

The side controller(S) might be real but not intended for use how everyone percieves them to be.

Look at the Nvidia Shield connected to the controller. Tell me that controller dont look like it can busted into 2. Look at the shape. It look like it can go into 2 but its not 2 seperate controllers.

 

[Spieler Eins]

i'd probably give that honor to wii u, as at least 100 million people got to experience the wii library!

That unfortunately doesn't go for most of the Wii's great games, which tanked way too often. And speaking of good games, WiiU was pretty much the Wii, but with most of its good titles (and generally good things) taken away from it. Most overrated console ever by the few fanboys it has (and the constant comparisons to the Dreamcast or Gamecube are insulting).

 

[PSFan]

Well it may be completly subjective, but you prefered Mario Sunshine over Galaxy 1 and 2? 3D World is a better game than Sunshine too...I can see WindWaker above Skyward Sword and Twillight Princess, ok but saying that the GC Library is above Wiis library seems harsh...

Yeah I actually did enjoy Sunshine over the Galaxy games, and especially more than 3DWorld. To me, 3DWorld was just NSMB in 3D. I was already bored of beating the timer to the flagpole in 2D Mario, I didn't want to have to do it in 3D Mario.

And Twilight Princess is a Gamecube game, and I really regret going with the Wii version. And I liked it better than Skyward Sword.

I did enjoy Mario Kart Wii though, MK8 is so boring compared to it. I didn't even bother unlocking everything in it.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Yeah I actually did enjoy Sunshine over the Galaxy games, and especially more than 3DWorld. To me, 3DWorld was just NSMB in 3D. I was already bored of beating the timer to the flagpole in 2D Mario, I didn't want to have to do it in 3D Mario.

And Twilight Princess is a Gamecube game, and I really regret going with the Wii version. And I liked it better than Skyward Sword.

I did enjoy Mario Kart Wii though, MK8 is so boring compared to it. I didn't even bother unlocking everything in it.

You are entitled to your opinion PS fan. Dont let them bully you.

 

[TunaLover]

You're too blocked in standard concepts.

For every innovation that Nintendo brings with its controllers it create the inconvenience that you end having a big number of controller configurations, and future controllers can't have all those innovations in just one device. Nintendo should standarize a controller once and for all, if we add Wii U to the VC library we will need 4 different controllers, and no one would be able to emulate to each other, unlike Dual Shock 4.

 

[fatgamecat]

This seems like a great idea. I wish the 3 DS had video out or a dock with video out for the big screen. And they will be able to consolidate their handheld and console software development.

 

[PSFan]

You are entitled to your opinion PS fan. Dont let them bully you.

Are you serious or is that sarcasm? It is my opinion, and that opinion has made me decided to hold off on getting the NX at launch, like I have done with every other Nintendo console.

Going with WiiU version of Zelda, cause fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, etc..