Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
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Yesterday i was driving too fast and i realized that i don't want to die before the reveal of the NX reveal date so now i'm being careful on the things i do LOL
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IGN's Peer Schneider: "the NX is a complete reboot for Nintendo"
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Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
NX reveal anticipation saves lives
thus the device is never to be revealed
The late 2000s were glory days for Wii and DS, not just (or even primarily) Wii. Remember, the famed "It prints money!" GIF people used to love was about the DS, not the Wii.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I know I've said it a ton on GAF already, but the Wii has easily the most underappreciated gaming library ever. It's phenomenal, both quality and variety.
Diddy Kong
Banned
I can't believe how many people still fall for tentative release dates posted up by websites.
It's one really specific tentative release date though, if it was March 31st no one would give it any thought.
PinkyMonkey
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So it looks this device might be a powerful mobile machine but a very under powered home console. Just like the PSP with tv out.
If that is the case then it'll be the first Nintendo console that I would have no interest in buying, since i don't play hand held games.
Knowing Nintendo, the dock will just be a charging station.
If that is the case then it'll be the first Nintendo console that I would have no interest in buying, since i don't play hand held games.
Knowing Nintendo, the dock will just be a charging station.
Dark Cloud
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Is BotW a handheld game?
Herb Alpert
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You can play the games on your tv with a controller - if you're interested in the games what exactly is stopping you from buying the console? Some absurd principle that you won't buy anything that could be defined as a handheld?
The debate over what it should be defined as is pure semantics. It's the console that will replace both the 3DS and the Wii U and provide the complete Nintendo lineup of games.
The DS is one of my favourite systems ever. Buttload of great exclusives across a variety of genres; it feels very much like the SNES in that way. And it had a ton of purely casual software like Ubisoft's language games on top of its traditional games. Like the predecessor to smartphones in that sense. Crazy device.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
I think this gen showed there's very little difference between console and handheld games/
The Wii U got sequels to Pushmo and Kirby Canvas Curse - all originally handheld titles.
Donkey Kong Country returns, Majora's mask, Xenoblade, etc all started off as console games and got handheld ports.
And the NX is getting Breath Of The Wild.
Dark Cloud
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The only complaint I can see from a console only fan is it may look like there's no standard controller, but it would make sense for Nintendo to have one packed in or sold separately.
Console and handheld are becoming blurred. BotW is not a game you would consider a "handheld" game and you could've said Yoshi Woolly World isn't a handheld type of game, but now it's a 3DS game.
It will come down to budget and how Nintendo wants to make each game on a game to game basis. No matter what this system as a handheld blows the 3DS out of this world.
If you could take Wii U games on the road, would that be a problem? Does that somehow make a game like Bayonetta 2 a "lesser" game since it could've been played on the road?
Just think of the NX as a console that you can take on the go IF you want too. Just leave it plugged into your tv forever just like you've done for NES, SNES, N64, GameCube, Wii and Wii U...
Console and handheld are becoming blurred. BotW is not a game you would consider a "handheld" game and you could've said Yoshi Woolly World isn't a handheld type of game, but now it's a 3DS game.
It will come down to budget and how Nintendo wants to make each game on a game to game basis. No matter what this system as a handheld blows the 3DS out of this world.
If you could take Wii U games on the road, would that be a problem? Does that somehow make a game like Bayonetta 2 a "lesser" game since it could've been played on the road?
Just think of the NX as a console that you can take on the go IF you want too. Just leave it plugged into your tv forever just like you've done for NES, SNES, N64, GameCube, Wii and Wii U...
its still a significantly step above Wii U, and it will get all kinds of games (BoTW). For the first time ever, almost all of Nintendos teams will work on the same device, except a few for mobile and 3ds.
Re-reading this part:
"-Detachable controllers are low budget. Very cheap (like the Wii nunchuck). Peer has heard they're using IR and it's not your main way of controlling the game (a "travel controller"). Speculates they could make cheap controllers that attach to the system.
-Peer thinks the 720p resolution for the screen is "very credible" and "very highly likely"."
I think that a standalone gamepad could be the main controller with nx being on the dock while the detachable controller is a maybe optional controller that lets you play the nx like a handheld while travelling.
"-Detachable controllers are low budget. Very cheap (like the Wii nunchuck). Peer has heard they're using IR and it's not your main way of controlling the game (a "travel controller"). Speculates they could make cheap controllers that attach to the system.
-Peer thinks the 720p resolution for the screen is "very credible" and "very highly likely"."
I think that a standalone gamepad could be the main controller with nx being on the dock while the detachable controller is a maybe optional controller that lets you play the nx like a handheld while travelling.
Pretty much yes. The "console" end of it is just for the west really, in Japan it wouldn't surprise me if the tablet and controllers were sold together as just a handheld without the console dock included. In the west though it'll probably be marketed as a console first that you can take with you, with the handheld 3DS still being supported for a couple years alongside it.
It should have more than enough juice to run a 1080p Smash U port without any extra processing from the dock. The rumored Pascal chip would be roughly 3x Wii U's Latte and suppossedly the ARM CPU even outclasses the Jaguars in PS4/One.
LeCroqueMonsieur
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So it looks this device might be a powerful mobile machine but a very under powered home console. Just like a Wii U with portability.
If that is the case then it'll be the first Nintendo handhled that I would have interest in buying day one, since I don't play hand held games on handhelds. Playing handheld games on a larger screen with a standard controller would alleviate any issues I currently have with handheld devices.
Knowing Nintendo, the dock will just allow amiibo compatability.
If that is the case then it'll be the first Nintendo handhled that I would have interest in buying day one, since I don't play hand held games on handhelds. Playing handheld games on a larger screen with a standard controller would alleviate any issues I currently have with handheld devices.
Knowing Nintendo, the dock will just allow amiibo compatability.
But at the same time the stress of waiting for an announcement is also taking days off my life.
Jorok Goldblade
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People bought into the "Wii is not a real hardcore console" narrative pretty hard.
Having a handheld connected to TV output is similar to tablets and smart phones connected to TV using different ways which we have seen over the years. If nx provides something similar, why so secretive unless they are living closed doors. Adding a controller or type of controller could be similar in some cases when we get controller attachments for phones.. Still trying to understand what is going to be game Changer or truly innovative idea ..
Starchasing
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I know it's capable I'm just worried that since the console's screen is 720p that it won't output a native 1080 signal or something.
I doubt Sakurai would even allow them to limit to 720p on tv mode. 1st party games will most likely push for native 1080p with Wii U level visuals on your television.
No More Heroes is about the most "video gamer's video game" I've ever played, to the point where it's almost embarrassing to play it. It and its sequel are pretty much the ultimate gamer games, totally embracing and celebrating even the shameful aspects of gaming. I'd say NMH alone pushes the Wii way into "hardcore."
Hell, the Wii got a Sakura Wars game translated into English. Sega couldn't do that for decades and only super-hardcore types who import and read online translation guides could play them before. I never had a Wii, butone of the reasons I got a Wii U was to play Sakura Wars V through BC. I never could've done that on another system.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Indeed. The Wii has the second best line-up of games of all time next to the Super Nintendo.E3 2006 and E3 2010.
If you count Virtual Console I'd take Wii over any other home console or handheld full stop. Just an insane lineup there alone.
It "replaces" the Wii U the same way the Wii "replaced" the GameCube. But in this case, TV-Out and portability isn't going to capture anyone's attention like the Wii Remote did. We're running close to GamePad levels of interest.
So I'd hardly call the argument "semantics". Constraining it to being a handheld architecture greatly limits the technological leap that can be achieved and puts Nintendo even further out in left field than they already are in the market.
And not being able to technologically meet the PS4 means a reduced number of 3rd-parties will be involved, as 3rd-parties have slowly been reducing their handheld game output since the DS days. That is what has me walking away from Nintendo if this "handheld-plus" is all they have to offer, because I'm not willing to accept that anymore. Hardly an arbitrary concern.
And lastly, it not that it "could" be defined as a handheld, it WILL be defined as a handheld. By 3rd-parties who already don't release games for handhelds or only provide stripped-down experiences, by the media, by the average consumer. TV-Out will not change that, everything else is marketing.
I've seen people in this thread drag out Just Dance as a game that justifies calling it a console. But Just Dance is also on iOS, and I don't see anyone calling an iPhone a home console any time soon.
Isn't it a touch premature to make that claim?
Starchasing
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There is something more.
Dark Cloud
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I don't think this NX hybrid is the only NX. Nintendo keeps calling it a platform. I'm definitely on the belief that there will be multiple NX systems. It will be a family of systems and this hybrid is just the first.
The significantly above Wii U claim? We don't know the actual specs yet, but all leaks have been indicating that it is.
Or the "all kind of games" claim? Yea western console third parties probably isn't likely. Great first party, indie support, and japanese third party is likely imo. Its getting BoTW, the poster I was replying to believed it would only get "handheld" type games. BoTW is not that at all.
Also feature and cpu wise its on par or above PS4 assuming its using a Pascal tegra and lcgeeks (or something) comments are legit, which could make it easier to port some games to it despite it being less powerful overall.
Some trademark claim about RE7 for NX. Who knows
http://multiplayer.it/notizie/17402...d-potrebbe-arrivare-anche-su-nintendo-nx.html
http://multiplayer.it/notizie/17402...d-potrebbe-arrivare-anche-su-nintendo-nx.html
OnionPowder
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everyday i wake up disappointed because i don't have any new hints on the NX
please nintendo stop this madness
please nintendo stop this madness
It's possible, capcom has no problem with porting resident evil games to nintendo consoles.
Dark Cloud
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This was brought up before. I translated it and it's talking about how "cartridges" is part of the description for RE7 and they're using that as maybe it means it's coming to NX.
You shouldn't expect anything on the weekends lol
netgrimoire
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Hoping the NX is backwards compatible with the 3DS. I know the games wouldn't look 'great' on a big screen TV at that resolution but I'd be nice not to miss out on games that haven't released yet because I don't own a 3DS (Etrian Odyssey V for example).
I can believe it.
lwilliams3
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The big thing about this system is that it can play modern console games (at lower IQ/settings) and tradition handheld games in a handheld form factor. For Nintendo, they can have a solid base specs that they can focus all/most of their resources on. This can be defined as a reboot, because they can make itinerary upgrades like the new 3DS and PS4 Pro, or different form factors that are based on Tegra's tech like the iPad vs the iPhone in the future.
Even if people will consider the system as more of a handheld than a hybrid, it looks as if Nintendo has a lot of flexibility on the future form factors and specs after the initial NX is released.
Also, it is questionable if the higher specs would have a noticeably positive impact for initial third party support. It can could have even been a negative reaction, because pricing would be more of a concern.
Father_Brain
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For what it's worth, the Just Dance apps on iOS are only controller apps. They still require a bigger, stationary screen to play the game.
And AAA third-party support was a lost cause a long time ago. They could have matched Scorpio in performance and it'd only help so much.
I seriously doubt it will have backward compatibly. Everything seems to point to it having a different architecture, and I doubt Nintendo will increase the price of the NX just so that they can put chips in it to enable bc.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a smaller truly handheld NX device in the future to replace 3DS once they can shrink the chipset down and reduce thermal constraints enough. Perhaps also a cheaper console only version at some point too for more budget conscious westerners who don't care about portability. Starting with the hybrid model allows them to test a lot of waters with just one SKU.
Yep, only console libraries I like better are the N64 and OG Xbox for nostalgia.
Same with DS and 3DS, the library of games for those 2 systems is insane.
If NX could play all these games... but I shouldn't even think about the possibility because then I won't be disappointed when it doesn't.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I'm 99.9% certain that isn't happening.
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