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Final Fantasy XV SPOILER THREAD
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future update roadmap is released
they are adjusting chapter 13, and also adding stuff like new cutscenes regarding Ravus to make it more clear.
The are also adding some important characters in the game as playable characters.
http://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/201612070039/
they are adjusting chapter 13, and also adding stuff like new cutscenes regarding Ravus to make it more clear.
The are also adding some important characters in the game as playable characters.
http://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/201612070039/
Holy shit. Megaton.
It's kind of... a dangerous precedent... but I'll take it.
Gives me a reason to replay the game at least. Maybe that really is the NG+ content. 😂
Flying Wonkey
Member
Edit: drat, I was slow! its up there haha
Tabata's roadmap for upcoming update/DLC is out, had a quick glance at it.
http://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/201612070039/
Short term changes coming:
To improve the experience of chapter 13, they're going to be buffing the ring magic
Mid term:
Planning on adding more scenes on Ravus showing how he appears..... Where he is in the story during chapter 13. Mentions voice work and localization so this will take longer.
Long term:
Plans to add more playable characters you see in the game. Mentions a possible 'Avatar' system they might go for for players to experience for new game playthroughs.
Other stuff:
New Game plus, Holiday pack etc.
Tabata's roadmap for upcoming update/DLC is out, had a quick glance at it.
http://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/201612070039/
Short term changes coming:
To improve the experience of chapter 13, they're going to be buffing the ring magic
Mid term:
Planning on adding more scenes on Ravus showing how he appears..... Where he is in the story during chapter 13. Mentions voice work and localization so this will take longer.
Long term:
Plans to add more playable characters you see in the game. Mentions a possible 'Avatar' system they might go for for players to experience for new game playthroughs.
Other stuff:
New Game plus, Holiday pack etc.
minameissteve
Banned
Damn. It'll be interesting to see if there are any other changes they're planning on making over the coming months.
Sad to see them needing to add new scenes in the first place, but I guess I'll take it.
I'm not sure how to reconcile the fact that I had fun playing most of the game despite all the flaws and frustrations I have with the gameplay and the story.
It doesn't make sense. I thought the combat was shit, the sidequests were trite and uninspired busywork, dungeons were often frustrating mazes, I thought the story was garbage, I found most the characters completely forgettable and uninteresting, the camera was pure frustration, most of what I wanted to see didn't end up in the game and the world itself was kind of a pain in the ass to get around...
But I still mostly enjoyed it. How is that possible? I mean, I never want to play it again and I certainly didn't feel compelled to do 80% of the sidequests or any of the endgame content, but still...
Too little, too late. I guess I should have put off playing this because I'm not coming back to it now that I've finished the campaign.
It doesn't make sense. I thought the combat was shit, the sidequests were trite and uninspired busywork, dungeons were often frustrating mazes, I thought the story was garbage, I found most the characters completely forgettable and uninteresting, the camera was pure frustration, most of what I wanted to see didn't end up in the game and the world itself was kind of a pain in the ass to get around...
But I still mostly enjoyed it. How is that possible? I mean, I never want to play it again and I certainly didn't feel compelled to do 80% of the sidequests or any of the endgame content, but still...
Too little, too late. I guess I should have put off playing this because I'm not coming back to it now that I've finished the campaign.
lol, wow
No. Absolutely not. Just because it's longer doesn't mean it's any good. It's repetitive, has radically inferior combat and delivers story poorly. It's the worst of the worst the worst.
holy shit, they are actually trying to fix up the narrative and add more cutscenes.
Pretty much the one thing i didn't expect!
Despite the character not being as fleshed out as i would have liked, teh Ravus fight makes it above "worst of the worst of the worst" teir. Its more annoy and grading than it is horrid.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Dangerous precedent.. but I'll take it
jimmypython
Member
WHAT!? He said because it shipped 5m they will continue the support. And they are talking about fixing later parts first and adding story to the first part.
Essentially what they did was releasing an unfinished game and finishing it post release IF it sold well.
WTF.
vainglorious
Member
lol The fact that you posted this right before the news dropped on them making changes to Ch13 because of how shitty it is, is amaaaazing
That's okay I like being different
I welcome the changes but I wonder what new playable characters they mean. Like they'll be adding new sections to the game where you play as, say, Luna or Ravus?
But first plz patch the game, I had 4 crashes today. Super annoying. At least I finished the game before all these crashes happened but still
I welcome the changes but I wonder what new playable characters they mean. Like they'll be adding new sections to the game where you play as, say, Luna or Ravus?
But first plz patch the game, I had 4 crashes today. Super annoying. At least I finished the game before all these crashes happened but still
It is, but then again, if any game has a chance for that to actually happen, its this one.
I maintain that the story is indeed salvageable, but it will require a lot of cutscenes for characters like vertstale, the emperor, regis, and especially Luna.
There was never any doubt. Fixing it suggests that they actually DO want to milk the FFXV brand for the rest of the gen.
They can't really fix it, though. The plot and characterizations are swiss cheese.
How many of you who had a lot of problems with the gameplay, as well as the story, actually want to replay the whole thing again? Not me.
The Ravus fight that just sort of comes out of nowhere after you just randomly stumble upon his corpse. I laughed when that happens. It seemed he was going to be a major character but them just unceremoniously dies. It's good they're adding more to his story.
Still, an okay boss fight - I guess one of the best by process of elimination - does not make up for two hours of hell. I honestly can't think of any dungeon more taxing in FF history, combined with the blandest visuals and gimped gameplay.
It's nice that they are going to take time to finish the last third of the storyline though instead of just leaving it bare bones. Kinda shitty though. Wish they would have just delayed it until March or something but I'm still quite satisfied with what I have. Maybe this can be Tabata's pet project while Kitase comes out of Producer retirement and co-directs XVI with Itou while Toriyama keeps on shining XIII Trilogy HD remaster.
Ito is the only one who can save the franchise. Another FFIX caliber story and characters PLZ
Kitase has been tainted by Toriyama though. No thx
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
As soon as I platinum the game, I uninstall it. If they want me to reinstall and spend some more moolah, I'll take no less than Aranea.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Ravus needs some major screentime.. i like the game we got but this is some bs. At least SE didn't pull a konami with ch3
Apparently their fix for Chapter 13 is to buff the Ring? Lol, that is hardly the problem with that chapter.
Cut it in half.
I will say this, if they add some dramatic new elements to gameplay, like fixing the camera and being able to use certain characters in your party more, or at least in the endgame, I might come back in a couple years. Maybe. Assuming they also add a ton more to the story. But I doubt they will add enough to satisfy me. They would need to insert an entire plotline with the Emperor, for starters.
Cut it in half.
I will say this, if they add some dramatic new elements to gameplay, like fixing the camera and being able to use certain characters in your party more, or at least in the endgame, I might come back in a couple years. Maybe. Assuming they also add a ton more to the story. But I doubt they will add enough to satisfy me. They would need to insert an entire plotline with the Emperor, for starters.
Sounds more to me like the management saw the game not perceived as complete trainwreck (read: milkable) and decided to gave Tabata more resources to fix it while working on the obliged DLC. That's (slightly) better than pushing everything into the final 'expansion DLC' which they've not even freaking decided what to do with aside from possible multiplayer.
Tabata hinted few weeks ago the delay from September 30 was only enough to make the game playable without gamebreaking bugs that block progress.
jimmypython
Member
Oh btw,
Tabata actually is "good at" doing those kinda things. His best game BCFF7 was episodic.
Tabata actually is "good at" doing those kinda things. His best game BCFF7 was episodic.
Apparently using the power of the Oracle to create covenants for her man Noctis-sama to be able to get summons was detrimental to her health. But it seemed that the Oracle also had some sort of power to bring out the sun since after she dies the nightfall rapidly becomes longer, so I guess that's why Ardyn killed her?
Who knows
ULTROS!
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DarkLordMalik
Member
The curse of being an Oracle. She was affected by the Starscourage.
There was never any Chapter 3At least they're fixing it and not dropping it out.
What's wrong with Chapter 3?
Via Purifico
Banned
Holy fuck at these patch goals, IMO the ring is OP as hell there's no need to make it stronger.
ah, okay thanks. also i looked at the wiki to learn about starscourage and apparently it's basically midichlorians/nanomachines?
At least they're fixing it and not dropping it out.
What's wrong with Chapter 3?
i think he means act 3 of mgs v, which doesn't exist
I tought that the thing about the Sun was connected with the summons and not Luna
But I don't know.
Pop On Arrival
Banned
can someone just tell me how this early access bullshit ends? I'm done with Final Fantasy at this point. Please? I hope everyone in that stupid party dies a horrible death.
NoctisVsStar
Member
At least they're fixing it and not dropping it out.
What's wrong with Chapter 3?
It doesn't exist but at least Ravus might get some proper closure.
ULTROS!
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toastyToast
Member
I don't see how buffing the ring would make chapter 13 any better. The combat for a significant portion of it is holding square since none of the other spells can be pulled off in time. Shit was sad
Add sprint back
TissueBox
Member
The whole patch/update philosophy that has carved itself into the modern-day game launch regimen is both a frustration and a blessing, particularly so for a predominantly single-player RPG game. It would be quite ridiculous if this game a couple months from now is already much different than it is today. It's telling of just what exactly a shipped game represents as opposed to a complete one. >_<
That's a tired argument for another day, though. Regarding the roadmap goals themselves, however they attempt to edify the second half of the game's narrative I just don't see it working without some sizable additions to the main story content...and that sounds like a bit of work, which I wish 'em luck on, don't get me wrong. If this comes in the form of a CG or two, though, hell, why not, this game was quite bare of 'em and imo could use some more of that FF-cinematic touch, lmao.
I don't know how I feel about adding the option of new playable characters and a customizable avatar in the context of the actual game...but I know I'd like to try it, if only to freshen things up. But man, that does sound like a notable new feature to include in a patch. I really do wonder how far they'll try to go with this, and how long they'll be rolling these out for.
That's a tired argument for another day, though. Regarding the roadmap goals themselves, however they attempt to edify the second half of the game's narrative I just don't see it working without some sizable additions to the main story content...and that sounds like a bit of work, which I wish 'em luck on, don't get me wrong. If this comes in the form of a CG or two, though, hell, why not, this game was quite bare of 'em and imo could use some more of that FF-cinematic touch, lmao.
I don't know how I feel about adding the option of new playable characters and a customizable avatar in the context of the actual game...but I know I'd like to try it, if only to freshen things up. But man, that does sound like a notable new feature to include in a patch. I really do wonder how far they'll try to go with this, and how long they'll be rolling these out for.
ULTROS!
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At least we get a functioning game with a functioning story though!
Although is the first time a company is adding scenes to a story post-release?
Ravus, but also the entire empire casting needs more scenes, Love the fact that in the 2013 trailer, you can see the emperor, but in the final game, you see in 1s in his human form and that's it, I guess. You'll meet him later in Chapter 13 in his daemon form.
And also seeing the full invasion of Insomnia, not just some quick cuts.
TissueBox
Member
Not sure if it's really the same thing but there was that Mass Effect 3 extended cut fiasco.
That's the most significant one I could remember, though.XANDER CAGE
Member
The Witcher 2 added some scenes in the Enhanced Edition if I remember right, but that was pitched more as a "director's cut" release/update well after the initial release rather than an update announced right after the game came out. Not to mention the fact that TW2 made sense pretty much all the way through upon release
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