TissueBox
Member
Yeah was about to say it woulda been ideal if they bulked him up a bit too lol. That said facial hair does wonders!
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Final Fantasy XV SPOILER THREAD
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Yeah was about to say it woulda been ideal if they bulked him up a bit too lol. That said facial hair does wonders!
theofficefan99
Junior Member
DLC should be stupid shit like costumes and extra boss fights or whatever. Not stuff that should have been there in the first place.
I would say expansions would be A-OK in my book due to Witcher 3, but the difference here would be that Witcher 3 is continuing the story and adding onto things. An expansion pack for FFXV would be adding onto an incomplete game, with a complete story arc that cannot be continued, therefore I would feel like a beta tester.
I also feel sorry for people who got the game early, because I cannot imagine playing this game without warping outside of battle and the story would feel even more horrendously told without the awkward Kingsglaive scenes (or the added scene to the ending lollllll).
I would say expansions would be A-OK in my book due to Witcher 3, but the difference here would be that Witcher 3 is continuing the story and adding onto things. An expansion pack for FFXV would be adding onto an incomplete game, with a complete story arc that cannot be continued, therefore I would feel like a beta tester.
I also feel sorry for people who got the game early, because I cannot imagine playing this game without warping outside of battle and the story would feel even more horrendously told without the awkward Kingsglaive scenes (or the added scene to the ending lollllll).
I did some playing today, second playthrough started.
I really do like this game, one of my favorite FF's by far, the aesthetic alone draws me in.
They just really need to ..fix the story however they can, add in what they took out plus more.
sigh
I'd like them to add Noctis' versus trashbag outfit btw in a DLC.
I really do like this game, one of my favorite FF's by far, the aesthetic alone draws me in.
They just really need to ..fix the story however they can, add in what they took out plus more.
sigh
I'd like them to add Noctis' versus trashbag outfit btw in a DLC.
I thought that was Leviathan with arms around Ifrit, not Bahamut. I only thought that because both of them didn't care for humanity (clearly Ifrit moreso).
Makoto Yuki
Banned
There really should be a guest toggle after completing the game. Pick between having Iris, Arenea, or Cor with you. Glad the game had guest characters though. Nice little change of party dynamics.
Iris gushing over her prince, Arenea talking down to the boys, and everyone in awe of Cor. Would be nice to have them around as an option.
I don't really know to be honest. Looks like he has wings so I thought it was Bahamut. Plus they look serpentine to me.
Iris gushing over her prince, Arenea talking down to the boys, and everyone in awe of Cor. Would be nice to have them around as an option.
I don't really know to be honest. Looks like he has wings so I thought it was Bahamut. Plus they look serpentine to me.
Damerman
Member
shit, to be honest i'd take it. the crumbs they gave us in the final game are that good.
Well, he seems to be saying they're considering it. I reckon the sale of upcoming DLC will tie into what they do beyond that. It could just be further cosmetic material, besides.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Future DLC will add Stella to the game with her own weapons and Armiger.
theofficefan99
Junior Member
I would, too, if whatever they throw in is the high-budget shit I expect from a mainline title. But they won't.
Damerman
Member
the first phase of the ardyn was pretty epic to me. very cool 1 on 1.
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I agree with everything you said but this is the most important thing for me. Video game stories are usually trash so that doesn't bother me as much as bad gameplay.
So many people are saying the combat is great and the combat holds the game up and the combat is the reason they can look past all the bad stuff.
I was watching bits of the fight and it looks like he just walks around but then in the cutscene he is flipping and shit is that right?
TissueBox
Member
Ahh after two long chapters without it the baby is back..!! That being the Regalia of course.
Honestly now that I think about it, other than Noctis' I think the 'death' scene that actually affected me most was the Regalia's, lmao. It did get kinda sad when he had that flashback to his dad. It was then I realized the car was pretty much a partial embodiment of that.
Also seriously, the bros' care for the car is worth some merit too. They took out a friken base for it!
Honestly now that I think about it, other than Noctis' I think the 'death' scene that actually affected me most was the Regalia's, lmao. It did get kinda sad when he had that flashback to his dad. It was then I realized the car was pretty much a partial embodiment of that.
Also seriously, the bros' care for the car is worth some merit too. They took out a friken base for it!
I agree.
And give her that black outfit she had.
ugh
swear there's so much potential in this game wasted.
I never really found a use for this - you'd warp ~four times and be out of MP, and warp points were inactive unless you were in battle, so you couldn't refill your MP or make use of longer distance warping.
Seemed like a really wimpy afterthought.
Edit:
My mistake for not clarifying my intent with those Kingsglaive images
I wasn't commenting on the style, I was commenting on the changes in Luna's character and the total absence of the Emperor in the game. An Emperor/Ardyn onscreen presence was something I was looking forward to.
What happened??
WHAT HAPPENED!?
This game gave me serious blue balls.
My mistake for not clarifying my intent with those Kingsglaive images
I wasn't commenting on the style, I was commenting on the changes in Luna's character and the total absence of the Emperor in the game. An Emperor/Ardyn onscreen presence was something I was looking forward to.
What happened??
WHAT HAPPENED!?
This game gave me serious blue balls.
This quote from Sawatori in that article about potential Luna stuff is kind of lol.
"It couldn't have been part of the main game at all" only makes any sense whatsoever to me if what he means is that the designers needed more time to get the other characters down as playable.
"It couldn't have been part of the main game at all" only makes any sense whatsoever to me if what he means is that the designers needed more time to get the other characters down as playable.
No, he means they didn't have the time to add even one more minute of content than what was shipped.
Lol, yeah, that sounds very much like:
Of course we didn't cut this stuff from the game. There is really, reeeaaally no way it is cut stuff from the game! Like, really! Pinky promise!
What happened??
WHAT HAPPENED!?
Kingsglaive was meant to reach a bigger, international audience. People that wouldn't usually play a JRPG. That audience might've been turned off by the anime-inspired look, so they made it more marketable, looking like a real life movie with well known voice actors.
Why would they do the former if not to do the latter, though? Why have a character vanish mysteriously for a chapter, then return with no explanation, if you don't intend to explain it in some side-chapter? It adds nothing to the narrative, and is mostly annoying for the player.
They went with the mocap actors and the game developers didn't want to bother changing the designs they already had in game with the exception of Regis. Can't blame them, everyone gave them shit when they showed us the Regis redesign.
What happened??
WHAT HAPPENED!?
This game gave me serious blue balls.
theofficefan99
Junior Member
What happened??
WHAT HAPPENED!?
This game gave me serious blue balls.
Funny because even the pics from the "game" either:
1. don't exist or
2. look significantly worse
This was more than just an issue of design preference to me, as my mind never accepted the two Lunas as the same person. Because honestly they weren't the same person - not the same look, voice, or personality. I could maybe have accepted game Luna as Kingsglaive Luna's younger sister. Maybe.
Every part of Kingsglaive was better storytelling than even the highs of the game.
But if they knew that the KG Luna was more appealing to a broader, international audience... then why on earth not just use that design for the game? I don't get it.
TissueBox
Member
Actually Kingsglaive for me had almost the same exact problems and strengths of the game. Beautifully realized world but not put together perfectly and in need of more intimate moments and scenes that brought attenion to notable plot points/world details to help flesh out the characters and setting.
Also the shaky as hell camera.
But the parts are there! If only this type of thing could have the luxury of second chances, 'cause the potential was so close to being realized. In both cases.
Also, Cersei as Luna and Ned Stark as Regis was brilliant. It was kind of weird going from her to Amy Shiels, personally, eheh. Not as any slight against Shiels though. It just gave KG Luna such an 'air'. Which was also why I went into the game excited to see more of her, buut that turned out a bit more differently than I expected lmao.
Also the shaky as hell camera.
But the parts are there! If only this type of thing could have the luxury of second chances, 'cause the potential was so close to being realized. In both cases.
Also, Cersei as Luna and Ned Stark as Regis was brilliant. It was kind of weird going from her to Amy Shiels, personally, eheh. Not as any slight against Shiels though. It just gave KG Luna such an 'air'. Which was also why I went into the game excited to see more of her, buut that turned out a bit more differently than I expected lmao.
My mistake for not clarifying my intent with those Kingsglaive images
I wasn't commenting on the style, I was commenting on the changes in Luna's character and the total absence of the Emperor in the game. An Emperor/Ardyn onscreen presence was something I was looking forward to.
I wasn't commenting on the style, I was commenting on the changes in Luna's character and the total absence of the Emperor in the game. An Emperor/Ardyn onscreen presence was something I was looking forward to.
theofficefan99
Junior Member
Kingsglaive had amazing CGI but it was severely hampered by the unnecessary knights of the Glaive and the horrendous camerawork. Also Drautos made no fucking sense.
It truly was a mistake to remove Nomura entirely and to make it into a "single game" aka a movie, a low-budget anime series, a mobile game, and a bunch of DLC, with a short-ass game where the first half is a whole bunch of poorly-written nothing.
I would have been totally okay with a trilogy and idk why SE thought it was a better idea to go with my above paragraph (and using the trilogy idea on a game that has already been released, and as a single game) than to stick with what was originally planned.
It truly was a mistake to remove Nomura entirely and to make it into a "single game" aka a movie, a low-budget anime series, a mobile game, and a bunch of DLC, with a short-ass game where the first half is a whole bunch of poorly-written nothing.
I would have been totally okay with a trilogy and idk why SE thought it was a better idea to go with my above paragraph (and using the trilogy idea on a game that has already been released, and as a single game) than to stick with what was originally planned.
I should also stress that I thought Kingsglaive was a piece of shit. Some truly awful filmmaking.
But it set up some cool characters for the game that ended up coming to nothing.
At least you get to see the old lady luna talks to at the start in the actual game too.
10/10 movie cameos.
Cause it costs less, takes less time and the 13 trilogy killed any good will to the idea of a trilogy at all. Plus no need to worry about sales for the sequels dropping. Seriously this isn't hard to figure out.
It sucks to high hell, but its no hard to figure out at all.
Ravus, just like all of the empire, was huge disappointment overall.
Vincent Alexander
Member
While the Kingsglaive look more realistic, I prefer Luna and Ardyn from the game. Emperor from the movie.Edit:
My mistake for not clarifying my intent with those Kingsglaive images
I wasn't commenting on the style, I was commenting on the changes in Luna's character and the total absence of the Emperor in the game. An Emperor/Ardyn onscreen presence was something I was looking forward to.
What happened??
WHAT HAPPENED!?
This game gave me serious blue balls.
When the group was talking about Ravus and his potential plans on their way to Altissia I really thought the character would play a huge role in the second half of the story. lol
theofficefan99
Junior Member
The only reason it costed less is because they gimped the main game. Tabata even stated Kingsglaive uses the budget he was given for the project.
I don't think it was a smart idea to waste budget on a CGI movie that ended up reviewing horribly, that not everyone saw, that was pretty much required to experience the full story, especially when it meant gimping the main game.
Had it been split into 3 or even 2 games, not only would the games have had less CGI than the movie (and it would have been just Visual Works, not Digic or all the other studios involved), the games would have been better received. I thought that's what they were aiming for with this game? To bring FF's name back. I don't think XV did it. It's selling, yeah, but... the game is rushed as fuck. I don't even think it deserves an 83 unless you're being kind in the sense that the game is more than the sum of its parts, but there are a ton of glaring flaws, some of which are completely unacceptable, like the camera and the lock-on.
Also, I truly believe they began production on Kingsglaive around the end of 2014, maybe even later. Because otherwise it wouldn't make any sense to show Insomnia invasion stuff at Jump Festa. And it also falls in line with the story of the main game being rewritten 800 times.
Final Fantasy hasn't handled ensemble villians well since FFVII. That cast was phenomenal.
I am convinced SE never has really known what the actually story of the game is or should be. That's why it's so vague and gaping.
Carlos Lima
Member
The more I think about this whole situation, the worse it gets. Think about it. After all those trailers, demos, AT Reports, that cathartic "Uncovered" event, an anime series, a movie, a mobile game, a cover song... geez, even the rock pictures... what happened to the game? The game is the main course! It's the reason for everything (or is it?). I don't know how to explain it. If the game wasnt ready, what's the purpose of everything else?
I wonder if the development, after Tabata took over, was a mess from the beggining or something happened to kill it.
I wonder if the development, after Tabata took over, was a mess from the beggining or something happened to kill it.
10 years.
Hm. I'd say that XII actually handled multiple villains really well. Especially in comparison to their main cast of playable characters lol.
Vincent Alexander
Member
It's crazy, but now that you say this and I think about it....you're so damn right.
toastyToast
Member
They made a movie and a fucking anime all for this?
I couldn't have imagined poorer story. I legit have no hope for this franchise. Next time put together something coherent then go from there. I'm sure if I turned this shit in for 5th grade creative writing I'd get a fail.
Also the combat isn't that great
I couldn't have imagined poorer story. I legit have no hope for this franchise. Next time put together something coherent then go from there. I'm sure if I turned this shit in for 5th grade creative writing I'd get a fail.
Also the combat isn't that great
Dude, trilogy of full games>>>>>>>one game and a CGI movie in terms of budget, lol it's not even comparable. It wasn't good for the product, but they don't care they make more money with less risk of people not buying the sequels like what happened with 13. They just wanted there money and the albatross of Versus off there necks.
Ha! See my post above, I never got past the first 15 hours of FFXII so I can't comment there.
Forgetting about 9? Great ensemble of villains imo.
as for the combat, no I like it lots. The only real problem for me is the camera and lock-on camera. Otherwise I have a blast with it.
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