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(Gamesindustry) Nintendo Switch to sell 40M units through 2020 - DFC Intel. report

Crayon

Member
Many here talking about price drop are forgetting about the Wii U.


This is Nintendo we're talking about here. unless they're in dire straits good luck getting that price drop.

Most of their consoles have had significant and timely price drops. Wii u would be the outlier.
 

TS-08

Member
Yeah I glossed over that too. End of 2020 makes a difference. I also think if Nintendo really utilizes their extensive handheld catalog, they can pull together a lot more sales than we are thinking. When you look at Nintendo sales of the past devices, handheld have always sold very well. So it's really up to Nintendo to put the proper franchises on the Switch if they want to see handheld sales numbers, because I don't think home console numbers are going to work for them.

Yeah I think you've hit the nail on the head. Treating the Switch as a hybrid not only in the hardware sense but the software sense as well is key. We've already seen that take shape with a mainline Fire Emblem scheduled for the Switch next year, because even though it has a console past, it was clearly a handheld franchise on the 3ds. If Pokémon Stars really does come to Switch as rumored, I think all our questions on this point will be answered.
 

Haines

Banned
Many here talking about price drop are forgetting about the Wii U.


This is Nintendo we're talking about here. unless they're in dire straits good luck getting that price drop.

The wiiu was 2 pieces to do what this is doing in 1.

A price drop would not have helped wiiu.
 

kyser73

Member
Most parents today used to have a SNES. And Switch is SNES reborn: Bomberman, Street Fighter 2, Mario Kart or VC games: these local multiplayer focused games remind it easily.

As a dad I can't wait to play Bomberman with my girls, 4 player Tetris, or Mario Kart with the new easy mode - designed for my wife. It's a family console, focused on multiplayer, by design. I'm not sure you realize the extent of it yet.

I think parents won't be too hard to convince, when our kids ask a Switch for Mario, Splatoon, Pokemon, Animal Crossing, etc.

It's not Nintendo's priority now, with the Zelda launch.
When the time comes though - starting this holiday season with Mario, you'll notice the messaging switch, towards family gaming.

Wow. I know what your tagline says, but just wow.

'Most parents had a SNES.' - I'm a parent and grew up in the UK so didn't. None of those games really resonate with me.

As a parent who now lives in Australia my kids already use the house iPads & my PS4, so please tell me where my incentive to splash out over $700 on games, extra controllers etc is coming from?
 

kruis

Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
I expect Nintendo to release a Switch lite in a smaller form factor without the docking station for sub $200, I also expect them to release all of their console and mobile titles for the Switch and it will sell substantially less than 40 million. I think the market for handheld consoles will continue to shrink due to the abundance of cheap and powerful smartphones in the hands of the general public.
 
in 3.8 years, the system might have gotten a price cut, a hardware revision, and a sizable library of Nintendo games, Japanese 3rd party and indies. Slightly outpacing the X1 isn't impossible if things go well for Nintendo.
 

joecanada

Member
in 3.8 years, the system might have gotten a price cut, a hardware revision, and a sizable library of Nintendo games, Japanese 3rd party and indies. Slightly outpacing the X1 isn't impossible if things go well for Nintendo.

yeah I predicted 50-60 million lifetime, I could see a lot of changes in the coming years which could affect things. I don't think there's anyway they can hold fast onto the price unless it's selling well, even if they did it with WiiU for some reason....
 
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Deleted member 752119

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yeah I predicted 50-60 million lifetime, I could see a lot of changes in the coming years which could affect things. I don't think there's anyway they can hold fast onto the price unless it's selling well, even if they did it with WiiU for some reason....

They're not willing to take a loss on hardware and the gamepad is expensive apparently. I'm sure they could have dropped price sometime the past couple of years without taking a loss, but probably just said fuck it as nothing was going to jumpstart it.

Switch they should have room for price drops as there's now way the dock is costing them anywhere near $90, nor the joycons $80 a pair to produce. Much like 3DS given how it dropped from $250 to $170 so quickly and given their philosophy they weren't taking a loss per unit at the new price. I'm guessing Switch is similarly marked up and can be dropped if it does terrible or sales slow in 2018 after most diehards have one.
 

Toni

Member
It'll be more than that.

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Wow. I know what your tagline says, but just wow.

'Most parents had a SNES.' - I'm a parent and grew up in the UK so didn't. None of those games really resonate with me.

As a parent who now lives in Australia my kids already use the house iPads & my PS4, so please tell me where my incentive to splash out over $700 on games, extra controllers etc is coming from?
Curious, since you're from the UK, are you more nostalgic for early PC stuff? Or something totally different?
 
Sounds legit, I don't think everything will be so expensive later on...Looks like good fun, I'm just waiting for the day when me, my daughter, and wife can all play something together.

Switch fits nicely next to my PS4, I think it will sell well. All the negatives, in the end, have little bearing on local multi-player gaming sessions focused on family fun. Price is the only big negative.
 

fhqwhgads

Member
40M is a nice number to estimate. I'd wager around the same area, with just under 50M at highest and just over 30M at lowest. It's a more realistic expectation than the doomsayers on GAF who think it'll do worse than the Wii U.
 

bonej

Member
with increasing competition os smartphone I do not see many handhelds in the west, since time killers for commuting are not that necessary anymore. Only japan is growing, so 40 mil is way to high
 

ar4757

Member
Even 10 million by 2020 seems impossible. The reaction on GAF is what, 90-95% fiercely negative? You keep seeing people over and over say they are cancelling their preorders even. No way the first day will sell through with all those cancellations either at this point honestly.

1-1.5 mil of the initial 2 million day one sold out is a safe bet yeah?

lol gaf's reaction is no where near a lot of the interested general public's
 

kobu

Member
I expect Nintendo to release a Switch lite in a smaller form factor without the docking station for sub $200, I also expect them to release all of their console and mobile titles for the Switch and it will sell substantially less than 40 million. I think the market for handheld consoles will continue to shrink due to the abundance of cheap and powerful smartphones in the hands of the general public.

I don't think we'll ever see a smaller switch because I doubt they would make the joy-cons any smaller.
 
3DS alone sold 60 million in roughly that amount of time so yeah that seems entirely realistic

3DS/2DS is also roughly anywhere between 1/3 and 2/3 the price ($80-$200) of the Switch and it has Pokémon.

So I think Switch has to have the same appeal as a handheld if you want the handheld sales numbers too.
 

Parapraxis

Member
they probably are. anybody buying nintendo hardware at this point probably doesn't care much about being 'ripped off'

I'm a WiiU owner, i'm in no rush to buy a Switch that's for sure. I am pretty pissed @ Nintendo and their treatment of WiiU owners.

You should have a look at the "Who is buying Zelda on WiiU thread", there's a lot of us actually.
 
What you wrote is precisely why they'll have a barebone SKU, with just the Switch and 2 joy-cons, for $200. With the library it will have by then, along with a Pokemon or Animal Crossing release... It will do phenomenal numbers.

This is what I expect as well. A version that is handheld only with no dock. During year 2 or 3 that will help the platform continue to sell well as it hits a lower price point.
 
I'm looking forward to the cheaper, lighter, and more powerful version of the Switch that will also be called the Switch and will drive huge sales in about 2 years after Nintendo has built up a huge catalog of 1st party games and Virtual Console titles while also fleshing out the ecosystem with apps and other accessories.

Switch is a platform, not a single device. 40 million units will be no problem.
 

~Cross~

Member
Only way I can see these numbers is if there isnt another portable system from nintendo. In which case, the switch would actually be tracking worse than the 3ds
 

-COOLIO-

The Everyman
they probably are. anybody buying nintendo hardware at this point probably doesn't care much about being 'ripped off'

nah, everyone has their limit. i bought almost every nintendo system up until the wii. never bought the wii u.
 

Vic

Please help me with my bad english
Only 40M by 2020? That's too low considering that a less expensive model will probably come out before then.
 

Kremzeek

Member
it will be lucky if it sells HALF that number.

once the initial rush of the preorders sell and all the diehards get one, sales are going to dive like a rock, just like the Wii U did.

that said, i bought a Wii U after that first price drop happened, and was totally happy with it because it wasn't my primary console.
if it had been my primary i would have been supremely disappointed.
 

mieumieu

Member
I would regard 40 million in 4 years as in line with my expectations and it is still a bit low.
But that's probably because I view the Switch as a portable first and foremost, unlike Nintendo PR and most people here (I assume in the US too?).

People on GAF has a very much skewed opinion on the industry.

Portables in Asia and Japan (and part of Europe maybe?) is still big and can go big.
 
Depends on how fast it gets out of th the gate I can see 40 million if they are aggressive with price and advertising I would be happy if they sold so much actually
 

KingBroly

Banned
I think 30 million would be a good number by 2020. But I don't know what their SKU/pricing schedule is like going forward. They said it and its' accessories are supposed to be profitable with price cuts, so I assume we'll see a $60 Joy-Con set, a $50 Pro Controller, etc. in the future at some point.
 

Mooreberg

Member
It will be interesting to see if they afford themselves of the opportunities that using an SoC presents. Down the line, they could have a Chromebox-esque unit that comes with a pro controller and just works on a TV. And a more portable 5.2 to 5.5 inch model that still docks and outputs to a TV. Since you do not use the tablet screen in tandem with the TV, it cannot really be a necessity that would ruin compatibility with a TV only unit.
 
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