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Resident Evil 7 Spoiler Thread

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ArjanN

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SomTervo said:
The worst thing about the Eveline plotline is that the reveal of her being the granny is awfully done. It's really clever imo but they flop the execution. Like they hint at it in one document and then the photograph with E-0001 on the back - then fucking shove it down your throat in the last fight anyway. They should have just left it unsaid.
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God no. That was easily the best thing about her story, it's everything else that mostly feels like generic creepy ghost child cliche, at least compared to the other Bakers, but the reveal is totally what saved it IMO.
 
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Fancy Clown

Member
Instead of the over the top QTE nonsense we got it would have been much more effecting to just walk up to the granny and inject her with serum and have her silently die. I would have felt a lot more sorry for her than the antagonistic melodrama we got.
 
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Truant

Member
ArjanN said:
God no. That was easily the best thing about her story, it's everything else that mostly feels like generic creepy ghost child cliche, at least compared to the other Bakers, but the reveal is totally what saved it IMO.
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Agree.

The reveal is straight out of a Bioshock game.
 
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Zakalwe

Banned
Fancy Clown said:
Instead of the over the top QTE nonsense we got it would have been much more effecting to just walk up to the granny and inject her with serum and have her silently die. I would have felt a lot more sorry for her than the antagonistic melodrama we got.
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No thanks. I want it traditionally ridiculous RE style, please.
 
Jawmuncher

Jawmuncher

Member
Fancy Clown said:
Instead of the over the top QTE nonsense we got it would have been much more effecting to just walk up to the granny and inject her with serum and have her silently die. I would have felt a lot more sorry for her than the antagonistic melodrama we got.
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I didn't mind her transforming (even if that fight was weak). But I could've done without the whole little girl blasting air at you bit.
 
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RecRoulette

Member
Jawmuncher said:
I didn't mind her transforming (even if that fight was weak). But I could've done without the whole little girl blasting air at you bit.
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I thought it was a neat sequence, but it made no sense at all.

ArjanN said:
God no. That was easily the best thing about her story, it's everything else that mostly feels like generic creepy ghost child cliche, at least compared to the other Bakers, but the reveal is totally what saved it IMO.
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This too, even if they showed their hand a bit too much and made the twist obvious by the time you got there, the actual injection scene is done really well.
 
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Ragnar Blackmane

Member
RecRoulette said:
I thought it was a neat sequence, but it made no sense at all.
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All you see about young child Eveline (outside of the Ship videotape) are hallucinations (as explained in the files... Ethan must have gotten infected at some point during the early game) and all the "phantoms" you see at the end in the Guest House are Eveline messing with your mind. It is obvious that Eveline still has "mental" powers over infected (both Molded - that's why she often seems to pop up as Granny in areas where you are about to be swarmed or just were swarmed by Molded or jumped by Jack) and is using that to hurt you, appearing as "psychic shock waves" to you as a form of hallucination.

Also the scariest part in the game is a big giveaway in that sense: In the detention room sequence it would make no sense if Eveline herself wasn't attacking you if she was some kind of ghost or apparition, she has to use Molded to carry out the attack. She only seems to be able to directly harm you if she is in your vicinity and you are infected enough so she can make some of your synapses in your brain go crazy or fry themselves, otherwise she has to rely on her minions and puppets.

Loved all the "ghost Eveline" sequences though, straight up Alma from FEAR (fitting considering one of the authors of the story was working on both games).

Going to write a longer summary of my thoughts tomorrow now that I have beaten the game, actually mad some screencaps of the end credits "newspaper" (it is actually an Umbrella file) that actually has additional lore information especially why Eveline was aging.

Also want to throw in that the old Racoon City Umbrella was dismantled in 2004, considering that ALL the events in RE7 take place between (I think) 2014-2017 it seems obvious that the new Umbrella is not a "good" organisation but literally Umbrella 2.0 with a focus on selling barely controllable BOWs to the highest bidder. Mia and her partner were working for them and supposed to incognito export them from one Neo-Neo-Umbrella (kek, just gonna call it BlueBrella from now on) facility to one in Central America, shit ecalates and BlueBrella makes the best of it by just using the chance to gather more data by observing Evi and the Bakers via Helicopter (see the "are they watching us?" photo in both the mines and the teaser demo) and by setting up a surveillance lab in the mines and using Lucas as an insider for close observation after they healed him at least enough to stay himself (still a sociopathic psycho though). Seems like Eveline got to the lab observers eventually though.

Considering how self-love/hating, uncaring, shitty and remorseless Chris has been in RE6 and after additionally having to deal with the shock of having lost Piers I'm not suprised that his old crush on Wesker caught up with him and made him join up with BlueBrella for a nice paycheck. I really hope what it is, "he is still good actually and just infiltrating them! or "They are actually good guys who just call themselves Umbrella" would be eye-roll inducingly bad and boring writing. Fine with Hunk too though.
 
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Psycho_Mantis

Banned
Fancy Clown said:
Instead of the over the top QTE nonsense we got it would have been much more effecting to just walk up to the granny and inject her with serum and have her silently die. I would have felt a lot more sorry for her than the antagonistic melodrama we got.
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No that would of been horribly anti-climatic. We should of had granny transform into something and fight us within the house. Maybe soak the entire house with the mould and hence can appear from any surface?
 
Jawmuncher

Jawmuncher

Member
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https://twitter.com/dengekionline/status/832934045096898561

It's that little bit of scruff now that makes him look off.
Like the resemblance is kinda there.
He needs that 5'0 clock shadow.
 
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Fancy Clown

Member
Psycho_Mantis said:
No that would of been horribly anti-climatic. We should of had granny transform into something and fight us within the house. Maybe soak the entire house with the mould and hence can appear from any surface?
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It would have been a purposeful anti-climax though, that strengthens the narrative aspect. It's already an anti-climactic finish, but for the wrong reasons.

But I would have gladly taken a real final boss fight, either with Eveline herself in the manner you describe, or like some sort of new-super molded that guards her.
 
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Fancy Clown

Member
Jawmuncher said:
Eveline should have chased us around in her wheel chair as some BOW form that combined with it. That would've been cool.
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Yeah, that was my first inclination as well. I'd gladly have taken that. Would have meshed nicely with the balance of horrifying and hilarious that the game captured so well with the Bakers.
 
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RecRoulette

Member
It took my 4th playthrough before I saw the scene with Jack grabbing the dog head off the shelf. I never knew the red dog head was on the shelf until I did a run with glasses.

Ragnar Blackmane said:
All you see about young child Eveline (outside of the Ship videotape) are hallucinations (as explained in the files... Ethan must have gotten infected at some point during the early game) and all the "phantoms" you see at the end in the Guest House are Eveline messing with your mind. It is obvious that Eveline still has "mental" powers over infected (both Molded - that's why she often seems to pop up as Granny in areas where you are about to be swarmed or just were swarmed by Molded or jumped by Jack) and is using that to hurt you, appearing as "psychic shock waves" to you as a form of hallucination.
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That's the only thing that doesn't make sense. Psychic shock waves is so weird/different than anything else, it just felt like something the devs thought would look cool. They could've did the infection from the demo and it would've had the same effect of you struggling to get close to her.

Actually was sort of disappointed the infection never shows up again outside of the demo. That was crazy the first time I saw that.
 
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Pinky

Banned
Jawmuncher said:
Eveline should have chased us around in her wheel chair as some BOW form that combined with it. That would've been cool.
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Ha! This would've been cool. Her chair mutates and changes as she does. I immediately thought of the demonic wheelchair in A Nightmare on Elm Street 3.

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RecRoulette said:
It took my 4th playthrough before I saw the scene with Jack grabbing the dog head off the shelf. I never knew the red dog head was on the shelf until I did a run with glasses.
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I didn't notice the dog head on the shelf until my 3rd playthrough. I genuinely believed I was seeing a glitch. I even made a post about it on GAF. :p
 
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RecRoulette

Member
How About No said:
Lol wat it's directly in your vision when you enter the room
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The second and third times I was just speeding through the game so I can understand why I missed it those times. The first time, I don't know how I missed it. I even remember looking through the hole at the deputy.

The dog head shows up in the usual spot even if you don't trigger the scene, so I never noticed anything was off lol

Edit: Finished my "Get everything run." Now the only trophies I have are Madhouse and the coins from it for the Platinum.

Aside from the dog head thing, also realized that the burnt corpse you get the code from is Clancy. What a way to go. (And the corpse you find in the water in the beginning is Andre, but I noticed that my first playthrough)
 
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Jacob4815

Member
When Ethan is trapped by Evelyne we see a cutscene where Jack and Zoe reveal to Ethan they are good people. Is this an allucination or a real flashback? When did they speak to Ethan?
 
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CloudWolf

Member
Ragnar Blackmane said:
Also want to throw in that the old Racoon City Umbrella was dismantled in 2004, considering that ALL the events in RE7 take place between (I think) 2014-2017 it seems obvious that the new Umbrella is not a "good" organisation but literally Umbrella 2.0 with a focus on selling barely controllable BOWs to the highest bidder. Mia and her partner were working for them and supposed to incognito export them from one Neo-Neo-Umbrella (kek, just gonna call it BlueBrella from now on) facility to one in Central America, shit ecalates and BlueBrella makes the best of it by just using the chance to gather more data by observing Evi and the Bakers via Helicopter (see the "are they watching us?" photo in both the mines and the teaser demo) and by setting up a surveillance lab in the mines and using Lucas as an insider for close observation after they healed him at least enough to stay himself (still a sociopathic psycho though). Seems like Eveline got to the lab observers eventually though.
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Great breakdown, but this is where you made a mistake. Lucas wasn't working for Umbrella. You can listen in on an Umbrella conversation and they say that Lucas has been in contact with a third party, an apparent adversary of Umbrella. Since the lab was where Lucas made his notes on the family, it's clear that the lab also wasn't Umbrella's work.
 
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ArkkAngel007

Member
CloudWolf said:
Great breakdown, but this is where you made a mistake. Lucas wasn't working for Umbrella. You can listen in on an Umbrella conversation and they say that Lucas has been in contact with a third party, an apparent adversary of Umbrella. Since the lab was where Lucas made his notes on the family, it's clear that the lab also wasn't Umbrella's work.
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We also really don't know if the third party are the ones who developed Eveline or if it was Umbrella. There's good arguments for either.
 
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RecRoulette

Member
Jacob4815 said:
When Ethan is trapped by Evelyne we see a cutscene where Jack and Zoe reveal to Ethan they are good people. Is this an allucination or a real flashback? When did they speak to Ethan?
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I thought it was a flashback to back when he got his hand stapled on. Doesn't make sense to put it there of all places, but yeah.

ArkkAngel007 said:
We also really don't know if the third party are the ones who developed Eveline or if it was Umbrella. There's good arguments for either.
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If the third party is Umbrella, that means the Umbrella Corps is separate from New Umbrella right?
 
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ArkkAngel007

Member
RecRoulette said:
I thought it was a flashback to back when he got his hand stapled on. Doesn't make sense to put it there of all places, but yeah.



If the third party is Umbrella, that means the Umbrella Corps is separate from New Umbrella right?
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Nah, I meant which of those two, the third party or Umbrella, developed Eveline and employed Mia.

myco666 said:
So this Banned Footage vol.2 is pretty bad? Jacks birthday is fun though.
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I still like Daughters, despite the issues it presents in the narrative alongside how brief it is to both endings.

21 is just an unappealing slog. Should've chosen to double the bet pool only, and not do that and double the opponents alongside the BS card pulls.
 
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myco666

Member
ArkkAngel007 said:
I still like Daughters, despite the issues it presents in the narrative alongside how brief it is to both endings.

21 is just an unappealing slog. Should've chosen to double the bet pool only, and not do that and double the opponents alongside the BS card pulls.
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Daughters does add a bit to Baker family but it is still very very brief look into the life before it went all to hell. Also doesn't help that the puzzles are hardly thought provoking like the ones in Bedroom. It just feels worthless and something that could have been short cutscene or even diary entry in the main game because it doesn't give anything in terms of gameplay.

I actually started to like the loop of 21 but then it just kept going on (played all the modes back to back) making it feel bit tedious. And while some of the card pulls are BS (sure you had 7 shield cards in your inventory Hoffman) it is always beatable because the AI keeps doing dumb stuff.
 
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myco666

Member
giancarlo123x said:
I enjoyed daughters and Jack's birthday a lot. 21 was some ai cheap bullshit.
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Don't really know what you guys are seeing in Daughters. Thought it was utterly boring. Also 21 isn't really cheap. You just need to pay attention to cards and when you know you are going to win dump all bet up cards on table and kill the opponent in one go. Problem with 21 is that the Survival+ is a slog and it is too much Saw instead of RE. Lucas was super funny though.
 
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RedSnake

Member
Spehornoob said:
Don't know if any of you guys are fans of Night Mind. He's a Youtuber who covers horror media. Does a lot of analysis and the like.

He just posted his video on Resident Evil 7!
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GREAT video!

The part about the giant Eveline doll was amazing.

I'll have to go back and check if "Zoe's chair" is on the ground or he dropped it by mistake since I did get that "Eveline's the only one left" but it's even more interesting when he brings the doll house idea in.
 
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msdstc

Incredibly Naive
Just finished. Don't really know the consensus but this was an instant classic for me! Best regards since 4, and easily the scariest of them all. I'd put this more in like with re1-3 ranking it better than 3, and near 1 and 2. Scary as hell with amazing atmosphere, somewhat interesting characters, great story (relatively speaking).
 
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krackerjack

Member
Man, perfect game. Well, until the notorious 30-second cgi ending the series is known for. Seriously, can there not be something more substantive than that?

I loved the game, though. It will stick out as one of my fondest memories ever since I got into gaming. I can't wait to see what 8 has to offer! Lucas being alive, the Redfield guy, Umbrella...
 
Phoenix RISING

Phoenix RISING

Banned
Fancy Clown said:
Yeah that was so fucking lazy. The whole mine area felt like "fuck it we ran out of time/money how do we wrap this up???"
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If they had done exposition via cutscenes, would have ruined the immersion, IMO.

In think there are plenty of grievances to have against the game. This is not one of them.
 
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