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DF on Zelda Switch: Docked has major frame drops, portable doesn't (no score talk)
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Khalifa Jayy
Banned
You can float on a log in a river, dawg. GOAT.
O R G A N I C G A M E P L A Y.
Agreed. And it's not right.
Huge Succeeded
Banned
I also saw many people complaining about the framerates in
2016's GOTY Witcher 3
and
a game that's commonly called 'the closest thing to perfect' alongside other like accolades and lovingly hyperbolic monikers here on GAF, Bloodborne
but you know what I didn't see?
people alleging that those two games simply didn't deserve their high praise and accolades because of their technical failings
non-stop beginning literally the minute those games started drawing high praise and accolades
Games, and in fact, every piece of media, is usually a product of it's time and the culture we live in. Some things don't stand the test of time, some do, and some gain delayed appreciation. That's just how things work. Or if you want it put in a slightly more cynical way;
You have to kind of accept 10/10 as a concept if you want to accept arbitrary numbers to begin with.
tomwhite2004
Member
Just read the digital foundry article, 56% resolution increase with a 20% memory bandwidth increase whilst docked, that creates a clear bottleneck which for and open world game which is constantly streaming assets causes issues.
Megawarrior
Member
When is the Wii U vs Switch comparison coming?
Steve Youngblood
Member
Be that as it may, my understanding of the situation is that frame hiccups in the Wii U version are even worse.
wii u is same performance with lower resolution.
As opposed to resolution increases...
RoadHazard
Gold Member
A combination. Bandwidth issues make the game perform worse at 900p despite the higher GPU clocks, and simple double buffered v-sync means that whenever the game can't stay above 30 it immediately plummets to 20.
I have to feel that Zelda gets a little bit of a free pass compared to most games.
People despirately want it to be good, so it kinda gets viewed through rose tinted glasses.
A self fulfilling prophercy.
I'm sure everyone will jump on me and say how that isn't true. But I think it is to some extent.
Even Skyward Sword has a 93% on Metacritic.
People despirately want it to be good, so it kinda gets viewed through rose tinted glasses.
A self fulfilling prophercy.
I'm sure everyone will jump on me and say how that isn't true. But I think it is to some extent.
Even Skyward Sword has a 93% on Metacritic.
Diablohead
Member
you do realise that the switch is pretty much a mobile platform right? if it was a set-top box I would laugh with you but it's not.
Seems more like 8.8/10 to me.
dragonbane
Member
It seems the Wii U barely drops more frames when compared to the Switch docked mode, but since its double-buffered vsync it appears a lot worse by dropping to 20 fps more repeatedly. They really should look at a better solution there
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Then what about to the Vita?
The Illiterati
Member
When you add the fact that the Switch version costs $360+....I think paying that much for the privilege of slightly less frame drops is a sucker's deal.
Wait, so if you admit the Switch docked version runs at a higher res, and at least at the same performance level, why would the Wii U be "the one to play"?
CharminUltra
Member
Yeah, I concur with the findings. It really feels pretty bad at times - within the first few minutes you're already running into massive 20fps dips that just feel really bad. Combine that with the low resolution and, well, the presentation feels kinda meh.
It does look great in handheld mode, however.
The current best looking Switch game is most certainly Fast RMX, though.
It does look great in handheld mode, however.
The current best looking Switch game is most certainly Fast RMX, though.
Neuromancer
Member
I'm not generally one to notice, let alone complain about, frame rate drops, but they are very pronounced in Zelda TV mode. It's actually somewhat shocking because, art style aside, it's not what I would consider a great looking game.
Except Nintendo themselves disagree with you.
They say it is a home console first and formost.
Silly logic since you have to include the price of the Wii U if you do that
Yea, hopefully. If this was the performance limit that'd be disappointing. So hopefully future games can look better.
MK8D being 1080 60 is a decent sign at least.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
The Vita is somewhere between a PS2 and PS3, so obviously the Switch is far superior.
Steve Youngblood
Member
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Let's wait for release and DF tests, shall we?
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Wii Us are free now? Cool, where can I get one?
LordKasual
Banned
10 frame drops
10/10
10/10
So did it get worse than when you guys played it at the Nintendo event? I remember you guys had an article that said it was stable 30 fps in docked mode.
SinCityAssassin
Member
They are.
So the Wii U version is the best because you don't have a Switch?
Caponetone
Neo Member
The game is still amazing despite the occasional framerate hiccups. It's not constant people, just every now and then depending where you are in the game. It would be nice if Nintendo patched these issues but if not the game is still an incredible experience.
Yo, can you test Zelda on 720p switch output while docked? I heard it improves the performance.
dragonbane
Member
Can you do a test of Kakariko on Switch in docked mode? Its can sometimes get to Blighttown levels so it would be interesting to see
Khalifa Jayy
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Nonetheless.
I saw the video posted in another thread where it consistently drops in battle.
I don't know how reviewers let that slide, at all.
You don't have to spend the money on a WiiU...
...If you already have one.
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I assume y'all are gonna do a technical pass through the launch games?
Curious how setsuna compared with ps4 and pc.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Thanks for the location spoiler.
Diablohead
Member
I feel like they only say that because they don't want to hurt 3DS sales in any way, it's just marketing talk. The Switch is still a tablet with a battery it just has an optional dock.
Steve Youngblood
Member
Also, I think it's worth pointing out that this is a technical thread and not the review thread. We really should quit discussing whether or not this calls into question the current Metacritic score. That's really derailing the discussion here.
I mean sure, you can if you want.
I don't see MK having severe drops as a racing game. The gameplay we've had has been 60 and the game is out in a month
Zelda has a slighthistory of fps drops, and had drops in every time the gameplay was shown. People kept saying wait for release, but I had a feeling it wouldn't get better tbh
Games like Bloodborne or the Witcher got massive framerate drops and I don't really see such a big talk about it.
It sucks that Zelda is a poor looking game that is also a frameskip fest, but really coming here and running to point it out being a fanboyish salty kid is just ridiculous.
It sucks that Zelda is a poor looking game that is also a frameskip fest, but really coming here and running to point it out being a fanboyish salty kid is just ridiculous.
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
Hopefully they at least include the option to choose between 720p and 900p in a future update.
WordsintheWater
Member
You guys excusing this crap and saying it's because it's a handheld really need to stop. This system should function well in both modes as it's a hybrid system otherwise they wouldn't advertise it that way and it wouldn't work that way. I'd be upset if all the "switching" that you're able to do with this game was hampered by it running worse when it's docked.
To be fair, Nintendo only has themselves to blame as they continue to market it as a home console.