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Honestly from the beginning OP you sounded more receptive to advice than how 99% of these threads go, that's why the people saying you were a creep comments didn't ring true to me this time around. Good on you man, all of us can improve in relations with other people.
 

dskillzhtown

keep your strippers out of my American football
I give the OP credit for trying atleast. But try to get to know her a bit and let the "making out" come naturally. On the positive, you have made your intentions known and didn't seem to label you a creep.
 
I learned that if I want to have a lasting relationship with a girl or even a short one, I need to think things out from their point of view, don't think of girls you don't think you're compatible with as just objects of sexuality and don't compare fingerbanging to XCOM.

tag worthy

you'll be a-okay OP
 
I learned that if I want to have a lasting relationship with a girl or even a short one, I need to think things out from their point of view, don't think of girls you don't think you're compatible with as just objects of sexuality and don't compare fingerbanging to XCOM.

It's much closer to a rhythm game like Guitar Hero in fairness. Listen to the sounds, try to develop a rhythm and take a break if your fingers are starting to hurt.
 

tr00per

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I've never kissed or girl or sex or anything due to my low self-esteem and confidence issues in the past.


And you decided to jump over all of the lower steps...?


I will read through the thread but just from the updated OP I'd say somehow you managed to not royally screw it up. Either she's incredibly tolerant or she does have feelings for you but won't pursue them
 
Well, that move was, uh... bold. I'll give you that

Probably could have just asked her on a date, and gotten all that done. Besides, I don't think you really want your first anything to be a rush job in your car when it sounds like you at least have/might still have a shot
 
So the other day, I (a 20 year-old guy) was studying with this girl in my Econ class. We'd been sitting next to each other all semester and I've come on to her a few times during the semester and she'd mostly play it off in jest. I was a little serious, but didn't expect anything to come out of this.

Well, the other day, we texted each other about meeting up after class to study in the library. We study, she has a good time, she finds me pretty funny so there were a lot of laughs going around. It was at this point I had planned to ask her if she wanted to "fool around" in her car before she left for class.

Fooling around was me thinking we could make out or me finger her or whatever, but I digress...


So, afterwards we walk to her car and ask she begins to put her stuff in the vehicle I say something along the lines of "Hey if it's cool with you, do you wanna 'fool around' before heading off to class?" She asked what does "fool around" mean. I said "nothing crazy" Then she laughs and says "I have to get to class" and then I say "How about for three minutes?" she says no again and I accept the rejection and say goodbye and start to leave.

It was a little awkward, but I feel like I went about that very poorly. After battling depression and hitting the gym for six months, this was my first real shot at getting involved with girls again. It's kind of embarrassing, but I've never kissed or girl or sex or anything due to my low self-esteem and confidence issues in the past. But now that I over came those issues, I feel as if my first try this year was me being oblivious and dumb.

I'm open to take advice on how to improve myself in this department.

UPDATE: I have an update. I texted her this morning an apology saying I'm sorry if I made you feel uncomfortable and I feel like a creep for what I did. She replied "lol not at all"

She sat next to me at the extra credit thing and we are talking like it didn't even happen.

Soooooo yeah

UPDATE 2: Extra credit thing ended. We parted ways afterwards. I did notice when I said I wasn't taking her path to the library she got sad. Also looked at me every time something funny happened/ I laughed during the movie we had to watch. That's it. In my science class. That's prolly the last update until Monday.

Do you actually like her? Or do you just want to bone to make yourself feel better about yourself?

I'm not getting a single vibe of "she's a great gal, lovely to be around, I enjoy talking to her etc" or any such sentiment from this post OP.

Honestly, maybe you should reflect on whether you're doing this for selfish reasons, as it comes off that way a bit.

If you do like her and want to get to know her more, get to know her more (i.e. dates, invite her round, dedicate quality time together and I guarantee you she'll warm up to you naturally if she's interested, no need to force things).
 
What's fucked up about this is that you think you're fine because you played it off as a joke... but you weren't joking.

Imagine if instead of saying you we're just kidding you told her the truth which you've laid out here on GAF:

"Hey so here's the deal. I'm looking to have sexual relations for the first time and I was so forward with you when I asked you to fool around in your car for 3 minutes, and by fool I meant fingerbang you, because you're attractive and all but I don't want to like date you or anything. I mean seriously we have zero chemistry and nothing in common and so, since I look at things as transactional and through a lens of resource management, I figured why waste my time and 20$ on you when I could get either the fingering or the rejection for free. I mean honestly, in the end my fingers in your body is the only thing I really wanted out of our semester sitting next to each other."

shit dawg
 

JB1981

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Bro she wants the D. She sounds inexperienced as well but you def planted the seed. Play it cool and you will get laid.
 

tr00per

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Okay see, what my thought process was here was pretty simple.

I thought:

After the final, I won't see her on a regular basis.

Instead of going through the hoops of asking her out, deciding on a place, and whatever, which I didn't feel like doing, I figured, "If I ask this and she doesn't reciprocate, there is only one more class before I never have to see her again"

I wouldn't be heartbroken by this, I just have a thing for her and that's it.
I was thinking that if I did this, I wouldn't be putting anything on the line unlike a date where I would drive there and pay for a meal and what not for a higher possible chance at fingerbanging but more resources spent, compared to no resources spent with a higher percentage of failing

It's like XCOM.

This is the most

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Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
UPDATE 2: Extra credit thing ended. We parted ways afterwards. I did notice when I said I wasn't taking her path to the library she got sad. Also looked at me every time something funny happened/ I laughed during the movie we had to watch. That's it. In my science class. That's prolly the last update until Monday.

Dude just ask her out in a normal, respectful way.
 
What's fucked up about this is that you think you're fine because you played it off as a joke... but you weren't joking.

Imagine if instead of saying you we're just kidding you told her the truth which you've laid out here on GAF:

"Hey so here's the deal. I'm looking to have sexual relations for the first time and I was so forward with you when I asked you to fool around in your car for 3 minutes, and by fool I meant fingerbang you, because you're attractive and all but I don't want to like date you or anything. I mean seriously we have zero chemistry and nothing in common and so, since I look at things as transactional and through a lens of resource management, I figured why waste my time and 20$ on you when I could get either the fingering or the rejection for free. I mean honestly, in the end my fingers in your body is the only thing I really wanted out of our semester sitting next to each other."

Well when you put it like that, of course it's going to sound ridiculous.
 

tr00per

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It's much closer to a rhythm game like Guitar Hero in fairness. Listen to the sounds, try to develop a rhythm and take a break if your fingers are starting to hurt.

I am so glad Gaf is a part of my life. So many great posts in this thread

I learned that if I want to have a lasting relationship with a girl or even a short one, I need to think things out from their point of view, don't think of girls you don't think you're compatible with as just objects of sexuality and don't compare fingerbanging to XCOM.

Well done, OP. I've got to admit you have handled the thread responses very well and I can see that you're actually pretty receptive and mature. And funny I'll admit. You're not dumb, just inexperienced but the important thing is that you're willing to learn. I'd buy you a beer.

That being said, it's hard to say whether I think you should go for asking her out or not. I see both sides, really. Especially since all I have to go on is what you've said. Is there a cafe or something on the campus? Maybe you could go there and just talk and feel out the situation? After the final just ask if she's hungry/thirsty or would just like to go with you. Then if that goes well and you feel better, maybe then you can ask her out. If you do pursue something, I'd probably go with the "it was a bad joke" angle.

But I mean at the very least she seems to enjoy your company. That much seems certain. If she still talks to you after the class is over then that's a good sign. But unless I'm mistaken, you don't seem that into her?

Either way I'll be watching this thread
 

Hayvic

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GAF, today I was in a similar situation and I seriously blew it. This "business relation" of mine came over to discuss some very important things. The meeting went well and I really think she liked me (I made a good joke about a mutual acquaintane being a total creep) Near the end she asked me if I wanted to hold hands and I just froze! I couldn't do it, I was so nervous! I just pretended not to hear her. You think there's still a chance? Or does she think I'm a total beta now?
 
GAF, today I was in a similar situation and I seriously blew it. This "business relation" of mine came over to discuss some very important things. The meeting went well and I really think she liked me (I made a good joke about a mutual acquaintane being a total creep) Near the end she asked me if I wanted to hold hands and I just froze! I couldn't do it, I was so nervous! I just pretended not to hear her. You think there's still a chance? Or does she think I'm a total beta now?

How's your finger banging game?
 
GAF, today I was in a similar situation and I seriously blew it. This "business relation" of mine came over to discuss some very important things. The meeting went well and I really think she liked me (I made a good joke about a mutual acquaintane being a total creep) Near the end she asked me if I wanted to hold hands and I just froze! I couldn't do it, I was so nervous! I just pretended not to hear her. You think there's still a chance? Or does she think I'm a total beta now?
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Here's your problem OP, after the three minute comment you should have said "hang on, i dont want you to misunderstand. I'll do all the work, AND I'll take care of myself too!"

Who could pass up that offer?
 
GAF, today I was in a similar situation and I seriously blew it. This "business relation" of mine came over to discuss some very important things. The meeting went well and I really think she liked me (I made a good joke about a mutual acquaintane being a total creep) Near the end she asked me if I wanted to hold hands and I just froze! I couldn't do it, I was so nervous! I just pretended not to hear her. You think there's still a chance? Or does she think I'm a total beta now?

I like this.
 
GAF, today I was in a similar situation and I seriously blew it. This "business relation" of mine came over to discuss some very important things. The meeting went well and I really think she liked me (I made a good joke about a mutual acquaintane being a total creep) Near the end she asked me if I wanted to hold hands and I just froze! I couldn't do it, I was so nervous! I just pretended not to hear her. You think there's still a chance? Or does she think I'm a total beta now?
Depends on your resource management. You did just save a potential $20
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
I've been reliving that moment since and I can't stop thinking about it. At least the final is on Monday, so that drastically lowers my chances of seeing her again if its still awkward and everything.

This is how you learn. 99% of the people you know now you won't beyond Facebook in 10 years.
 
Sometimes being direct can actually work, but there needs to be something there first. From the description of the OP, it sounds like your statement comes completely out of left field with no build up whatsoever to it. LOL
 

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MeisaMcCaffrey
GAF, today I was in a similar situation and I seriously blew it. This "business relation" of mine came over to discuss some very important things. The meeting went well and I really think she liked me (I made a good joke about a mutual acquaintane being a total creep) Near the end she asked me if I wanted to hold hands and I just froze! I couldn't do it, I was so nervous! I just pretended not to hear her. You think there's still a chance? Or does she think I'm a total beta now?
/clapping
 

Clockwork5

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Maybe it's too early for an update, but I asked her out yesterday to a Latin-Asian fusion place in our area and she hasn't responded.
Edit: Not looking great OP. Just consider it a no. If she responds with a yes, you'll be greeted with a nice surprise.

You are actually making progress though, and that's really what counts for yourself in the future.

Good luck, you actually seem alright. A bit confused, but alright.
 
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