If you're not appealing to tech enthusiasts, then there are 3 consoles competing against it, two in mass market pricing, that will play all the same games.
It's in a really awkward position.
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Xbox Scorpio Pricing Discussion
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If you're not appealing to tech enthusiasts, then there are 3 consoles competing against it, two in mass market pricing, that will play all the same games.
It's in a really awkward position.
LoNe_eXiLe
Banned
$399
I mean without that it was be more expensive than the Pro which is $399 at least so 449 is next target most would think they would logically target.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Bank on $399.
Won't be a dollar more.
Won't be a dollar more.
RowdyReverb
Member
That's how I'm thinking. Having a less expensive Xbox option helps to mitigate the risk of launching Scorpio at a "premium" price point. I bet it will be $399 in fall of 2018 though and maybe $299 in 2020 when Xbox One is discontinued
Beerman462
Member
$399-standard controller/1TB HDD
$499-elite controller/2TB or higher HDD
$499-elite controller/2TB or higher HDD
Sum-Mischief
Member
It will be price no less than 499.99. Of course early adopters like myself usually ok I understand. But this console generation have seen price cuts much earlier than years past. Although I have no interest now let's see how E3 with the games department. I may benefit more waiting a year maybe two.
I have a Pro and should run till the next generation. Which could come as early as 2020.
Competition makes great allies for consumers​.
I have a Pro and should run till the next generation. Which could come as early as 2020.
Competition makes great allies for consumers​.
Sorry, I just cant see how giving a console a 'premium' price can ever work.
It didnt work for the PS3 and it didnt work for the Xbox One.
(Im not sure if you were arguing that the price will be set at a premium to appeal to enthusiasts...)
I think this is a likely scenario.
Okami Haundo
Member
I'd agree with this if Microsoft didn't have any competition, but I just can't see them pricing above the PS4 Pro and staying that way. With the pricing you've detailed above, Scorpio would consistently be at least $100 more than the Pro even as both drop in price.
I can absolutely see a $499 SKU that's a "day one edition" or something and comes with a 2TB harddrive. I don't think they'd give us an Elite controller with it though.
RowdyReverb
Member
The difference in this situation from those examples is that they'll still have an inexpensive console offering in the Xbox One S that can play the same games
I think the base model will be equivalent to a 480 card so around $400-$500. My thinking is that the target audience are the PC gamers, graphics enthusiasts and core console gamers.
MS aren't in a leading position, so I doubt they will price too high, but this is a premium device. I think it will be marked up $150 higher than Xbox One S.
If it lands between those numbers I'm sure it will review very well.
Remember it is utilising Polaris and Jaguar at its core but highly customised deriving a lot of the cost from R&D, so the silicon shouldn't cost vastly more than a Pro. The wildcards are the cooling assembly and extra memory.
MS aren't in a leading position, so I doubt they will price too high, but this is a premium device. I think it will be marked up $150 higher than Xbox One S.
If it lands between those numbers I'm sure it will review very well.
Remember it is utilising Polaris and Jaguar at its core but highly customised deriving a lot of the cost from R&D, so the silicon shouldn't cost vastly more than a Pro. The wildcards are the cooling assembly and extra memory.
Possumowner
Member
399 or less or i ain't touching it....only because i couldn't afford it though
Or the PS4Pro.
It may work when PS5 & XBwhatevernext come along and the base models get wiped out. People can step up to the next layer of machines which can all play the games, and suddenly Microsoft have the chief box there.
It's all a bit weird really, none of us can really tell how this entire mid-gen/incremental thing will pan out.
I still think MS might play a wildcard in sacrificing their XB1s margins to offset the Scorpio price and come in surprisingly cheap in a hope of securing enough of a market to wrest multiplatform control away from Sony. And it's that which they need, their entire software development strategy shows that they planned on being the machine of choice for all titles... they can't fall back on an "exclusives box" like the PS3 did or Nintendo can.
But no one is buying that console. Yes I know that is a massive exaggeration, Im sure you get the point
Bedameister
Member
449
Guy LeDouche
Banned
and that's why it will be $500 and not some increment lower. Why price it at $429 or $449 when everyone who would be in at either of those prices would likely buy at $500 as well?
Phil Spencer is running a business, not a charity.
RowdyReverb
Member
Above $500 for a console is no-man's-land since the PS3. It won't happen
449$-499$, it's a box to appease the long term xbox gamer as a premium option.
If the price is 399$ that's a statement that they are still in the console game long term and want to build some momentum going into next gen.
Frankly I could see it going either way, and I think it really depends on what their long term console plans are.
If the price is 399$ that's a statement that they are still in the console game long term and want to build some momentum going into next gen.
Frankly I could see it going either way, and I think it really depends on what their long term console plans are.
professor_t
Member
I agree with this perspective. I don't see MS - or any console manufacturer - selling a console at a significant loss, so $399 seems nearly impossible. Couple that with the "premium" commentary and the fact that they were tremendously successful selling a controller for nearly 3x the normal price, and $499 looks very likely.
Primethius
Banned
$399.
Don't see why it would be more than that, especially if they want it to appeal to folks outside the core Xbox base.
Don't see why it would be more than that, especially if they want it to appeal to folks outside the core Xbox base.
That's what I think.
LFMartins86
Member
It's not a console with better graphics that will appeal to people outside the core Xbox base.
The mainstream cares about price and games. For many people, down-sampling and x16 AF doesn't mean a thing. Why would they pay $399 for a console when they could pay $199 for another that has more games and will still play the new Call Of Duty/FIFA/Madden?
Okami Haundo
Member
To play devil's advocate here, "premium" doesn't have to mean that it's above your "standard" pricing. Putting Scorpio at $399 while dropping the price of the One S would sell the idea of it being a "premium" SKU.
benicillin
Banned
They definitely aren't going to have more than one SKU of the Scorpio. No way.
The Scorpio of all things isn't going to ever sell as much as the XB1 S, let alone a Pro or a PS4. It will not wrest control of multiplatform titles from Sony, who is selling 2:1 right now.
The Scorpio of all things isn't going to ever sell as much as the XB1 S, let alone a Pro or a PS4. It will not wrest control of multiplatform titles from Sony, who is selling 2:1 right now.
Milly Osworth
Member
399 100%
I dont believe general management / shareholders will allow them to sell it at a loss. Similar to the Xbox One this will sell at a profit or break even. I can't see them going below $449,-
The Salt Life
Banned
Because one will actually be marketed as "best console on the market"
Why would you want something that's not giving you the best quality?
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
I don't think the chipset or the custom design of it really is gonna be that much more expensive than the Pro.
What IS more expensive is that extra ram and the cooling setup. I just don't know how much more expensive, and if MS is willing to eat some margins.
What IS more expensive is that extra ram and the cooling setup. I just don't know how much more expensive, and if MS is willing to eat some margins.
This is why I think they may pitch it as an entire wooden dollars situation. XB1 continues to sell well, Scorpio sells less and takes a hit but hit absorbed by XB1 sales. When Scorpio starts to take over in earnest, hardware costs are cheaper and break even achieved.