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Microsoft renews Scalebound trademark

Riiight, like all of you had any interest before? Seriously each time I said "OMG that looks cool!" Gaf be like :"PFFt the main character is a douche! those headphones HAH! The game doesn't look like fun, omg I hatez it!"

Then, much to my disappointment as I really looked forward to it, it gets cancelled,and suddenly GAF is a HUGE FAN!

It is like the Dreamcast, nobody owned it but idiots like me, and now everybody has fond memories of it. :).


So did you really love it before? Or are you just using it as a stick to beat a dead horse with?

Why is it that everyone who express interest in Scalebound post-cancellation announcement is met with stupid posts like this? Scalebound was literally the only Xbox One exclusive that made GAF's top most anticipated games for 2017. If you care to actually go back to the Scalebound threads of the past couple of years, despite the poor showings, most people will still excited by the prospect of a Kamiya/Platinum action adventure game with real money behind it.

Let's stop acting like the game was universally hated up until it's cancellation. It's revisionist history.
 

shandy706

Member
I doubt this source is worth anything.


I'd love to see the game come back though. I'm pretty sure it's not what Playground is working on in any way..

...but if it was Playground I'd be incredibly excited. Those guys are wizards.
 
To the people haranguing MS for forcing Co Op into Scalebound you do realise that it was shown in the reveal trailer, right? It's not like they went to them two years in and said, "Oh yeah, Co Op that shit to fuck guys."
 

Synth

Member
Only one of them were reannounced.

Whilst "re-announced" is probably not the correct term to use, what I'm saying is that each of these were something that was expected to be happening before, but then vanished for a time. Bayonetta 2 wasn't technically announced prior to Nintendo picking it up either, but it was something we were aware had existed in some form prior to being cancelled or placed on indefinite hold. Shenmue III was something that we all knew had existed in development at some point (with Yu Suzuki having talked about the direction it was planned to take on numerous occasions). FF7 remake wasn't announced as a game... but that's exactly what everyone thought was happening when they first saw it at E3 2005, and is why the speculation of it had persisted for that entire decade. TLG is self-explanatory.

There's an allure to stuff that you know about, but can't have, that an actual new announcement can't usually match. Look at the interest in Scalebound (or even Fable Legends) since its cancellation, it's name carries far more weight today than it ever did during the times it was shown previously. Of course, upon release it'll probably just fade into obscurity again (as I'd argue TLG has, and Shenmue III likely will), but in the moment it would generate far more attention than it's original announced (or hell the announcement of any of MS' new IPs this gen) did.
 

Mr Moose

Member
Probably keeping alive to maybe use it later either way I don't see any an announcement anytime soon.

This person is misterxmedia levels of speculation. Just look at their profile for a bit.

Edit - Beaten


I knew I had seen this name somewhere before lol.

I double-checked to make sure, and yuuuup lol.

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Akai__

Member
IF this is true and it means anything, I'll be happy. Depending on how the game turns out, of course.

But yeah, as others have said... This could mean nothing at all, since Trademarks are getting renewed and renewed and renewed and renewed with no results. Not gonna get my hopes up.

But the only thing people really liked about the game was who it was being developed by. I didn't think it looked too great but I was still excited regardless due to the team involved.

Take that away and there's little interest left.

I doubt that this is acually the case for most people. I don't give a fuck who makes what game. All I care about is if the game is good or not, for me. And if it happens to be good, the developer will get praise.

Heck, I doubt that the average consumer (out of gaming forums and etc.) could even name the companies that make their favourite games. lol
 

Ushay

Member
Don't toy with my feelings like this. If this gets a surprise announce at E3. This time I'm sure it will get a hell of a lot more interest.

The question is if this is legit, if so who could be working on it?
 
To the people haranguing MS for forcing Co Op into Scalebound you do realise that it was shown in the reveal trailer, right? It's not like they went to them two years in and said, "Oh yeah, Co Op that shit to fuck guys."

Yeah you'd think these people would have done some research before saying such things, but I guess not.

Would be funny as shit if we do get actual information soon and that it turns out that just this once, a guy from MisterX was speaking the truth, haha.
 

Raide

Member
Don't toy with my feelings like this. If this gets a surprise announce at E3. This time I'm sure it will get a hell of a lot more interest.

The question is if this is legit, if so who could be working on it?

Reborn Lionhead and the game will use the Fable Legends engine.
 
I don't know know why stuff like TMNT, Star Fox or Avatar are being brought up. Kamiya's pedigree is amazing, he did not direct the games named.

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Marcel

Member
Don't toy with my feelings like this. If this gets a surprise announce at E3. This time I'm sure it will get a hell of a lot more interest.

The question is if this is legit, if so who could be working on it?

It isn't but let's play anyway. It would be no one of note. You really think a prominent developer would pick up someone else's tablescraps?
 

Head.spawn

Junior Member
To be completely fair, it wouldn't take much to find a developer that could come up with more compelling/better looking gameplay than what Platinum Games was able to deliver in a three years of development time.

At best any of the promise that game had was piled into a small beat-up looking cardboard box in the corner labeled "mysterious behind the scenes super awesome gameplay that suddenly fixed everything and turned the game into DMC + Bayonetta + Dragons Dogma + Monster Hunter x 2!!"; which was probably bs.

The culmination of all of that development time, this is what we were looking at... this is the reality that would've released in early 2017:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k4FTt-Ri0c

In fact it might have been worse had they let it ship in early 2016 like it was supposed to.

I don't think you need to have a developer named 'Platinum Games' to do better than that.

All that said, this is probably nothing.... or at least I hope they wouldn't completely reboot the game. If they could get someone to change up the gameplay systems and add some depth to the combat, it would be a whole lot more interesting.
 

atr0cious

Member
To be completely fair, it wouldn't take much to find a developer that could come up with more compelling/better looking gameplay than what Platinum Games was able to deliver in a three years of development time.

At best any of the promise that game had was piled into a small beat-up looking cardboard box in the corner labeled "mysterious behind the scenes super awesome gameplay that suddenly fixed everything and turned the game into DMC + Bayonetta + Dragons Dogma + Monster Hunter x 2!!"; which was probably bs.

The culmination of all of that development time, this is what we were looking at... this is the reality that would've released in early 2017:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k4FTt-Ri0c

I don't think you need to have a developer named 'Platinum Games' to do better than that.
Don't we have another video and impressions from the same time that showed way more and better than that, especially in regards to the melee combat? Your video is a tiny subsection of what the game was bringing. W101 didn't even get the mechanic that made it great until right before the direct for it. I would've bet on Kamiya getting it done, but MS went another direction.
 

Marcel

Member
Don't we have another video and impressions that showed way more and better than that, especially in regards to the melee combat? That video is a tiny subsection of what the game was bringing.

IIRC it was written by a few members of gaming press that there was a huge divide between what was being shown to the public and how the game played and looked in private demos.
 

Dehnus

Member
Why is it that everyone who express interest in Scalebound post-cancellation announcement is met with stupid posts like this? Scalebound was literally the only Xbox One exclusive that made GAF's top most anticipated games for 2017. If you care to actually go back to the Scalebound threads of the past couple of years, despite the poor showings, most people will still excited by the prospect of a Kamiya/Platinum action adventure game with real money behind it.

Let's stop acting like the game was universally hated up until it's cancellation. It's revisionist history.

Because people like me got a lot of shit for liking the main character and the game design. People on GAF shitted all over the game in general. ANd now that it is cancelled it is binary gold? Yeah, I don't buy that. I didn't mind the headphones of the main character, found it silly and funny. Like much of Platinum's stuff: over the top! I LOVE over the top, and the corny way the main character behaved was awesome to me, so over the top that it was hilarious.

But nope, the hate train kept on and on then. When the coop was shown last year at E3, people whined that :"it doesn't look fun! HAHA GIANT ENEMY CRAB!? WEAK POINT FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE!?"kind of things were uttered. And now everybody loves it? Yeah like a Democrat being promised a good deal to replace the ACA with: I don't buy it for one moment. People just seem to eager to bash MS over it when it is cancelled and bash MS over it when it wasn't cancelled.
 
Removing Platinum from the project and handing off Kamiya's self-professed dream game to some mercenary studio? Would go over so well here
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They really weren't doing a good job with what they showed. The game was simply not looking very good at all. Would love if they found a different team to make a better game.
 

Marcel

Member
They really weren't doing a good job with what they showed. The game was simply not looking very good at all. Would love if they found a different team to make a better game.

Name the developer who will take up someone else's tainted project with little to no chance of financial success. Y'all who are doing this speculating need to actually finish your thought instead of being purposefully vague.
 

Synth

Member
I don't know know why stuff like TMNT, Star Fox or Avatar are being brought up. Kamiya's pedigree is amazing, he did not direct the games named.

Because the post said everything Platinum touches turns to gold.

And even in regards to Kamiya, I'd argue The Wonderful 101 was hardly as acclaimed as would have been expected from him. It's one of the few times I demo for a game completely unsold me on a concept.

It isn't but let's play anyway. It would be no one of note. You really think a prominent developer would pick up someone else's tablescraps?

But... that's literally what Platinum games did with Metal Gear Rising?
 
Don't re announce this at E3, it will backfire. Less damage to reputation would be done just letting it go.

Please... If Microsoft has a game that they have a good team to develop then they should do it. I find it hilarious that people would classify Microsoft announcing a game, something they claim Microsoft is in dire need of, as damaging to their reputation.

Know what I've realized? Microsoft would be best served not even paying attention to the people for whom Microsoft can never do anything right, no matter how hard they try.
 

Head.spawn

Junior Member
Don't we have another video and impressions from the same time that showed way more and better than that, especially in regards to the melee combat? Your video is a tiny subsection of what the game was bringing. W101 didn't even get the mechanic that made it great until right before the direct for it. I would've bet on Kamiya getting it done, but MS went another direction.

Whatever the direction MS was aiming, this was the gameplay Kamiya presented himself, which didn't look any better than the awkward stuff we saw years prior.

I doubt MS was in their ear saying "make the characters run animation completely terrible", "put a giant enemy crab boss and then show the most boring combat piece anyone has ever witnessed".

As for the bolded, this wasn't the first time that this game was shown looking like complete jank. Everything would've been locked down to bugfix for release after this point.
 

spannicus

Member
Give it to me. Pretty sure someone else can do it better than Platinum. Obviously whatever Platinum was doing wasn't working.
 
Seems like just a trademarl renewal. Not sure why they would reboot the IP and give it to a new dev studio rather than just start a new IP.
 

Synth

Member
And it's not happening unless you're willing to believe an Xbox fanboy who pretends to be an industry insider for retweets.

Look... you said you were playing along. Playing along means that the convo started with the theoretical situation of the game being revived. If it's not being revived, then obviously nobody will take it over. If it is being revived, then a different studio picking it up isn't that far fetched.
 

amdb00mer

Member
Make a new panzer dragon style game. The original gameplay etc didn't look that exciting

I actually think MS owns a team that is comprised of former PD members. Who made the Crimson Dragon game? It was not too bad for a 1st gen title. I think some of its hate came from it being too much like the original PD.
 
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