Why do soooo many people have the Rocket League story flipped? MS was not against Sony crossplay with RL. Sony was. Youre like the fourth poster in this thread to think Microsoft was against it when it was the other way around.
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Why do soooo many people have the Rocket League story flipped? MS was not against Sony crossplay with RL. Sony was. Youre like the fourth poster in this thread to think Microsoft was against it when it was the other way around.
Renegade Frost
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facts
Also wasn't it MS that created the tools to make cross play easy to incorporate into games or an I misremembering?
Wild speculation = facts
The Artisan
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that's not what psyonix tweeted. so you can't blame me or anyone else for having it wrong. in fact, that may explain it.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/rocket-league-on-xbox-one-lacks-cross-platform-pla/1100-6432832/
Liliana Eileen
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That's the crazy part: apologists in this thread are making up an alternate reality and somehow it's not just one or two people that think this. I just don't understand, lol.
Iva Demilcol
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Amazing
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I thought they corrected that and then came out saying RL would be the first one to use it
dammit
i blame trump
theres enough people for every platform that crossplay isn't a necessity but an added bonus/convenience
sony is just losing out since they'll lose some sales for new people jumping in
this argument would make sense if ps4 had millions of users while everyone else has only a dozen
That was before Rocket League Xbox One ever had any sort of cross-play at all. Ever since it got updated to support it, that's no longer the case. Literally the only one stopping cross-play between PS4 and XB1 is Sony themselves. The devs already said they already have everything technically worked out, they literally just need Sony's permission and they can just flip a switch to enable it.
They're not "JUST" losing out on a combined userbase, though. They're losing out on the HD Texture Pack and unlimited world size, which the Switch is getting. It's pretty crazy.
I imagine since PS3 is getting in on this combined player base and PS4 is not, the deal is it bypasses any kind of payment method involved with the services and relies completely on Realms or whatever it's called
ps3 isn't officially confirmed or not
not sure if it makes the ps4 situation any worse or better
i also doubt ms is doing this to get a bigger cut of the pie, otherwise there would be more resistance, not just from sony
It's true that when RL for xb1 first launched MS policy didn't even allow crossplay. Apparently , they didn't even have to tools to allow it. The moment they created the API, Sony suddenly wasn't open anymore.
The Artisan
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perhaps. i was just showing where the sentiment started.
right, but before rocket league had any sort of crossplay and the question about Ps4-Xbone was asked, that was Psyonix's answer.
im trying to give sony the benefit of doubt here, relax
The Artisan
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doesn't look like any source says Ps3 is included
Just Dance 2017 has (very limited) crossplay, in its World Dance Floor mode. Scoring and rank on the song and tournament leaderboards include players from Xbox, PlayStation and Nintendo. It can be turned off for your console, but it's on by default. Just mentioning, as there were a few posts listing other games.
The Artisan
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does that game have online multiplayer?
Except that the action itself is an admission of guilt. We don't knwo their REASONING, but we do know that there is no actual reason that stands up either (literally nothing would be different or compromised on their end than it is with any other game that connects to an external server). If literally every version except for the Sony version can do it, do you really think someone other than Sony is 'guilty' of the holdup? They've also done it with Rocket League for over a year now.
Leaderboards aren't exactly the same thing. That's like saying Telltale games are crossplay because I can upload my TWD season 2 save from my Xbox and import my choices from Telltale onto my PS4 (Or Dragon Age Inquisition for that matter).
Liliana Eileen
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That's pretty cool! Do you he a link to this?
DongBeetle
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How the absolute FUCK do you shill for this shit? People are actually bashing MICROSOFT for this shit. I'm blown the fuck away.
Can we please have the slides or any sort of other way of stating that whoever started that PS3 rumor is wrong?
From all I could gather, none of the last gen consoles including Microsoft's own 360 are getting updated to the Bedrock engine and thus won't be able to use crossplay. No article I found says they will be getting updated, tons say they won't and the slides aren't mentioning it either.
Who even started spreading this?
From all I could gather, none of the last gen consoles including Microsoft's own 360 are getting updated to the Bedrock engine and thus won't be able to use crossplay. No article I found says they will be getting updated, tons say they won't and the slides aren't mentioning it either.
Who even started spreading this?
Haha.
It's a shame because this could have been really ground breaking if Sony was in on it. Minecraft has the best shot and unifying platforms out of anything. It's still very important and I hope it sets precedent for other smaller games doing this in the future.
A world where games like Minecraft, Call of Duty, Overwatch etc are all cross platform is a positive for all of us.
DongBeetle
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In every console generation, one of the big threes HAS to go out of their way to be the bad guy.
Hockeymac18
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The ball was in Sony's court and they punted it over the fence?
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Jeeze. I thought I was bad but you Sony console warriors take the biscuit.
I honestly don't understand how anyone can defend Sony here, as all evidence points to them flat out denying it; Phil Spencer even said to ask Sony why its not appearing on their platform implying they denied it.
I've seen arguments saying it puts the PlayStation system at risk and all I can think is: aren't Microsoft, Nintendo, Apple, Google and whatever other platforms its on also at risk, so therefore it's in Microsoft's best interest to minimize any potential risks for all platforms.
I've also seen people say that PlayStation has the largest population for pretty much every multi-platform game, and while this is true, but by enabling cross-platform play they are letting their gamers be able to play with so many more people that will never buy their platform (due to lack of cash, lack of interest, or downright fanboyism), and this is true for every other platform (except arguably PC).
The only argument I've seen that fits has a pretty console warish approach (which is why I don't fully believe it) and that's to screw over Microsoft, the reason I believe that is because Sony allows cross-platform play with PC, which is arguably less secure then Xbox. The only thing PC has going for it is a potentially larger player pool but I'm too lazy to look up figures (like Rocket League population numbers).
I've seen arguments saying it puts the PlayStation system at risk and all I can think is: aren't Microsoft, Nintendo, Apple, Google and whatever other platforms its on also at risk, so therefore it's in Microsoft's best interest to minimize any potential risks for all platforms.
I've also seen people say that PlayStation has the largest population for pretty much every multi-platform game, and while this is true, but by enabling cross-platform play they are letting their gamers be able to play with so many more people that will never buy their platform (due to lack of cash, lack of interest, or downright fanboyism), and this is true for every other platform (except arguably PC).
The only argument I've seen that fits has a pretty console warish approach (which is why I don't fully believe it) and that's to screw over Microsoft, the reason I believe that is because Sony allows cross-platform play with PC, which is arguably less secure then Xbox. The only thing PC has going for it is a potentially larger player pool but I'm too lazy to look up figures (like Rocket League population numbers).
wukunyutai
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AYYYYYYYYYY LMAO
hanspampel
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cross-post from other thread, because relevant:
the dream not dead yet?
don't get to excited or your hope up high
https://www.polygon.com/e3/2017/6/12...necraft-update
the dream not dead yet?
don't get to excited or your hope up high
RichiRamjag
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Well that's good at least. Sony needs to get their heads out of their asses with some of these decisions.
Thanks for sharing
The Artisan
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sony deserves all the crucifixion it's getting for this shit.
Dee Dah Dave
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A couple of my PS4 friends are really miffed about this lol. Has anyone reached out to Sony for comment yet?
edit - hmm, seems maybe 'discussions' are still happening.
edit - hmm, seems maybe 'discussions' are still happening.
Quadraphonic
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I've never seen that on the PS4 version, especially an option to disable it.
When I've played online on a Saturday night, there's been like 20 people online.
The Artisan
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even if someone does, their arrogant ass response will probably something along the lines of "it wasn't a good idea for our consumers" like what they said for EA access
Rocket League has just confirmed itself as cross platform. Be interesting to see who with, as it might really turn the pressure up.
Scratch that, from the Rocket League thread:
Scratch that, from the Rocket League thread:
GarthVaderUK
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Rocket League too? Come on now Sony...
ramoisdead
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So now there are TWO Nintendo Switch games that offer cross-network play.
Sony...what the hell are you doing?? Don't be so arrogant man.
Sony...what the hell are you doing?? Don't be so arrogant man.
well, there goes the "it must be mean old Microsoft trying to force a bad deal on them" excuse.
Everyone knows that when you spam Nice Shot and Nice Save in pattern, it acts as a memory editor that allows you to bring down PSN. This is really the only sensible option to have a unique version that doesn't permit it.
The Artisan
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yeah right, why would the deal be different between nintendo and sony. they're both mS's competition.
Christocolus
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The Artisan
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looks like both threads have run their course
Yes. World Dance Floor puts you online to dance against other people, real-time.
The Yanger said:
It's not like that at all. You can't message people on other systems, but you're competing against them live, and rewards / points / mojo get divvied up appropriately. But like I said, it's still quite limited.
Quadraphonic said:
According to this post on Ubisoft forum, only Xbox One can turn it off. (It's with the settings where you select on/off AutoDance, Pictos,Lyrics, etc. There's also a notification each time you start the game). It should be on for you, I guess.
When the scores are tallied up at the end of each song or tournament, the players on Xbox have a big Xbox icon in front of their names. Those on other systems don't have any icon next to their name.
I'm usually on late afternoons PDT, and there'll be at least 60 online. Weekends I've seen up to 130 or so.
The Artisan
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okay so I agree. it's cross play, just very limited.
Clarkus Darkus
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What a pointless thing to be in uproar over, Probably those same types who sat quite at the conference, Spend more time moaning about games and features rather than playing them. Jaded gamers are the worst.
Sony don't have too, Simply because others do. Fair play to them sticking too it, When like they said, They have done it before anyway.
Sony don't have too, Simply because others do. Fair play to them sticking too it, When like they said, They have done it before anyway.
The Artisan
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lemme get this straight. Mojang comes out with an update that unites all versions of the game, gives them all shared dedicated servers, infinite worlds, the "tradeoff" being cross play, and this is a fucking pointless thing to be in uproar over?
Ricky Ricardo
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Some folk have been bending over backwards to defend Jim Ryan these last few days
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Sometimes I feel discussion on this site would improve if there were a rule to read the last two or three pages before posting. We ain't even 'jaded gamers' but jaded gamers aren't worse than corporate cheerleaders.