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Terrorist attack: Driver runs over Muslim pedestrians leaving Mosque in London

Regarding the thread being slow. It seemed like the dude was caught and things were stabalized. Wasnt much news to find when i looked.

So maybe the media isnt saying much so its harder to talk about,
I just watched an eyewitness claim there were three attackers, two of which fled and currently at large.
 

GHG

Gold Member
News outlets doing everything they can not to name this a terrorist attack.

I'm shocked.

The press will bend over backwards to give the guys involved an out.

"They were drunk"
"It was unplanned"
"They were mentally unstable"
"They had a hard life"
"His goldfish died yesterday"

It's disgusting. Call a spade a spade you cowards.
 

Syder

Member
Does the KKK or Brexit have a twitter or...?
I mean, kind of...
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It's not that much of stretch to say that voices like Tommy Robinson or Katie Hopkins have the same effect on Right-Wing violent groups and it's members as someone like Anjem Choudary had on violent Muslims.
 

DBT85

Member
Police statement confirming one person is dead. Pronounced at the scene. 8 injured and taken to hospitals. No sign of knife injury.

Members of counter terrorism Command are at the scene.

Sky now saying "Police investigating suspected terror attack" since the police statement came out.

Police statement
The investigation into the circumstances of the incident in Seven Sisters Road in Finsbury Park is ongoing.

Police were called just after 0020hrs 18 June to reports of a van in collision with pedestrians.

Officers attended alongside other emergency services and found and tended to a number of casualties.

One man was pronounced dead at the scene. Officers are in the process of informing next of kin. A post mortem examination will be scheduled due course.

Eight people injured were taken to three separate hospitals; two people were treated at the scene for minor injuries.

At this stage there are no reports of any persons having suffered any knife injuries.

The driver of the van - a man aged 48 - was found detained by members of public at the scene and then arrested by police in connection with the incident.

He has been taken to hospital as a precaution, and will be taken into custody once discharged. He will also be subject of a mental health assessment in due course.

A number police units are at, and managing the cordons around, the crime scene, including local officers and those from neighbouring boroughs - supported by armed officers and the Territorial Support Group.

The investigation of the incident is being carried out by the Counter Terrorism Command.

At this early stage of this investigation, no other suspects at the scene have been identified or reported to police, however the investigation continues.

Due to the nature of this incident extra policing resources have been deployed in order to reassure communities, especially those observing Ramadan.

Any witnesses, or anyone with any information, can contact police via 101, or via Twitter @MetCC.

To give information anonymously call Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111 or visit crimestoppers-uk.org.

When more information has been confirmed as accurate, it will be released as appropriate in due course.
RIP
 

Syder

Member
Eww can we not post Tommy Robinson or Kate Hopkin tweets. Both are vile dogs that don't deserve any attention.
Usually, I'd be against posting that shit but to me this is a clear source of Right-Wing radicalisation. It's highly likely that the perpetrator(s) consumed some form of British Nationalistic propaganda; with Tommy Robinson being the loudest voice in that cesspool.

This stuff needs to be recognised because it makes me ashamed of being British.
 

vonStirlitz

Unconfirmed Member
At what point do you open your eyes to realise your entire society is fucked up, when assholes from either spectrum think its okay to drive vehicles through crowds of innocents, based on their uncontrolled hate and resentment, and where the national press feeds hatred against foreigners, judges, or whomever, and where the government feeds hatred, whether by rejecting its membership of international cooperative bodies, or by bombing the shit out of poor nations.

The hate sink in the UK runs really deep sometimes. Societally, it is really fucked up.

Someone needs to take out tge whipping stick against any preachers of hate, whether they are fundamentalist preachers, right wing fucknuts, or toxic newspaper editors.
 

Skyzard

Banned
Was the man arrested the one behind the wheel?

I expect a hunt for the other terrorists. With all that surveillance, they shouldn't be hard to find.
 

Uhyve

Member
Usually, I'd be against posting that shit but to me this is a clear source of Right-Wing radicalisation. It's highly likely that the perpetrator(s) consumed some form of British Nationalistic propaganda; with Tommy Robinson being the loudest voice in that cesspool.

This stuff needs to be recognised because it makes me ashamed of being British.
Yeah, that's an influential right wing figure (EDL) saying that they had it coming.

We need to be ashamed of these people.
 

knkng

Member
Was the man arrested the one behind the wheel?

I expect a hunt for the other terrorists. With all that surveillance, they shouldn't be hard to find.
No additional suspects have been reported yet. Don't know where that person from earlier in the thread got that info from.

However, investigations are still ongoing (obviously).
 

LNBL

Member
No additional suspects have been reported yet. Don't know where that person from earlier in the thread got that info from.

However, investigations are still ongoing (obviously).

Several people being interviewed mentioned it on sky. Though most just heard it from others and 1 guy said he saw them
 

Syder

Member
Some guy getting interviewed on BBC saying that this needs to be called a terrorist attack and not a 'mentally ill person'.
 

LNBL

Member
Some guy getting interviewed on BBC saying that this needs to be called a terrorist attack and not a 'mentally ill person'.

Yea the same happened on Sky news in a live interview. Good on them for saying it out loud

Can we get the title edited to reflect the injured and death number
 

Skyzard

Banned
No additional suspects have been reported yet. Don't know where that person from earlier in the thread got that info from.

However, investigations are still ongoing (obviously).

They've been mentioned by at least one witness to the scene.

Any reason they're not taking them seriously (at least publicly) you think?

Like maybe to stop news of a manhunt for 2 other terrorists making the cycle, perhaps?
 

Izuna

Banned
Some guy getting interviewed on BBC saying that this needs to be called a terrorist attack and not a 'mentally ill person'.

It's just messed up.

Domestic "terrorists", in the bridge attack, people paint a whole religion and say shit about how we need to ban people who go to such countries... What genius idea do they have for an attack like this?

It should be scarier, because there's no (obvious), ignorant solution. It's just "gee, that dude is crazy, but what can we do? There's nothing special about this dude, discriminating against him is discriminating against ourselves."

I am expecting my boss to talk about "white English people" today or perhaps not even mention it at all. I don't expect him to talk about and equivalent that we should keep an eye on people whose parents are from Syria or shit.

The problem is how media as a whole is a fucking gas lights ignorant hate in all kinds of people and feeds these insane people these bullshit reasons to be angry enough to do something.

But no, now this news is just going to become "can white people be terrorists" and that's it.
 

Dopus

Banned
They've been mentioned by at least one witness to the scene.

Any reason they're not taking them seriously (at least publicly) you think?

Like maybe to stop news of a manhunt for 2 other terrorists making the cycle, perhaps?

As far as I can tell, it was just the one person who said there were three individuals. There were also reports of a stabbing but the police have stated that "there are no reports of any persons having suffered any knife injuries".

One of the witnesses who apprehended the van driver made no mention of anyone else.

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Edit: At least two witnesses stating there were three individuals.

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When the London Bridge Attack happened it took 1 hour for it to get to 7 pages ... its taken almost 2 and a half for this one to reach 7.

Yes that's the real tragedy here, an extra hour and a half to reach the same page count.

It's 5:30 am, can we at least wait until people are up before we rage about the coverage.
 

Uhyve

Member
Some guy getting interviewed on BBC saying that this needs to be called a terrorist attack and not a 'mentally ill person'.
I always thought that we were above terrorism selectiveness because of the troubles, but now I wonder if we only care about the skin colour of the victim rather than that of the perpetrator.

I hope I'm proved wrong and that this gets properly covered.
 

Kite

Member
*shrug* Sounds more like a hate crime to me since it seems to be targeted at Muslims, terrorism seems more indiscriminate. But I'll leave it up to the police to call it, I'm assuming they would be very different type of investigations.
 
*shrug* Sounds more like a hate crime to me since it seems to be targeted at Muslims, terrorism seems more indiscriminate. But I'll leave it up to the police to call it, I'm assuming they would be very different type of investigations.

terrorist attacks are not random
 

jonno394

Member
When the London Bridge Attack happened it took 1 hour for it to get to 7 pages ... its taken almost 2 and a half for this one to reach 7.

Wasn't one being treated as a live rolling attack with armed police scouring London for attackers and information not being released regarding the perpetrators being stopped until many hours later?

This attack was a one and done where the perpetrator was identified as being stopped almost as soon as the attack had been reported on here (post came within 3 minutes of thread opening).

I think that might help explain why the threads have moved at different paces, as well as other things.
 

Kite

Member
terrorist attacks are not random
In the sense that the victims are more random. You set off a bomb in the middle of a crowded street you dunno who you might kill, but driving into a group of people leaving a mosque you pretty much know who is getting hit. You are targeting a specific religion.
 

Ashes

Banned
At least call it a hate crime. Something.

I think with Muslim terrorists, there is an us and them. But with white nationalism, with the exception of some media platforms, most seem to be like, wait, er.. white nationalism is a serious problem... er...

The empathy is second rate.

This is a major incident, so they'll cover it, but they seem unable to know how to cover it except with a detached professionalism, as if they were not talking about Britons but about some foreign country that we sympathise only on humanitarian grounds.
 
*shrug* Sounds more like a hate crime to me since it seems to be targeted at Muslims, terrorism seems more indiscriminate. But I'll leave it up to the police to call it, I'm assuming they would be very different type of investigations.

...

Targeted terrorism is a thing
 

Bold One

Member
*shrug* Sounds more like a hate crime to me since it seems to be targeted at Muslims, terrorism seems more indiscriminate. But I'll leave it up to the police to call it, I'm assuming they would be very different type of investigations.

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Uhyve

Member
*shrug* Sounds more like a hate crime to me since it seems to be targeted at Muslims, terrorism seems more indiscriminate. But I'll leave it up to the police to call it, I'm assuming they would be very different type of investigations.
A targeted attack on a group of people for religious and political reasons... that's just straight up terrorism. Obviously there's some assumptions there, but to assume that it's not terrorism seems ignorant of what terrorism actually is.
 

knkng

Member
They've been mentioned by at least one witness to the scene.

Any reason they're not taking them seriously (at least publicly) you think?

Like maybe to stop news of a manhunt for 2 other terrorists making the cycle, perhaps?
Perhaps, or maybe what people say to a camera and what people report to the police don't coincide. I can't imagine the police would keep such info under their hats, but you never know, you may be right.
 

Got

Banned
In the sense that the victims are more random. You set off a bomb in the middle of a crowded street you dunno who you might kill, but driving into a group of people leaving a mosque you pretty much know who is getting hit. You are targeting a specific religion.

what the fuck are you?
 

Syder

Member
*shrug* Sounds more like a hate crime to me since it seems to be targeted at Muslims, terrorism seems more indiscriminate. But I'll leave it up to the police to call it, I'm assuming they would be very different type of investigations.
This was indiscriminate in the same way that Islamic terror is; it was aimed at civilians. Jihadi attacks are targeted at the 'white, christian west', this is just the inverse.

If you target innocent civilians with the intent of causing fear, that's terrorism.
 
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