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Switch at 4.7 million | ARMS: 1.18 Million, Zelda: 3.92M, Mario Kart 3.54M
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Jonneh3003
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Under what precedent? The best selling game in the series, Metroid Prime, sold just under 2.8M. I would love Prime 4 to become one of the best selling games on the system but I can't see it happening, Metroid isn't that big.
Orniletter
Banned
Do people still honestly believe that Breath of the wild won't clear 10 million copies ?
We are literally over halfway there with an entire generation of Switch owners to sell to.
Anyway, good sales all around.
We are literally over halfway there with an entire generation of Switch owners to sell to.
Anyway, good sales all around.
Jarod McChicken
Member
The Switch launch is excellent, but it's crazy to see how many people are willing to remind us that the Switch was penalized compared to PS4 while omitting a little detail.
The PS4 launched during the holidays, but it was also directly facing its rival, the Xbox One. Nintendo had a launch without competition. And unlike what Nintendo was pretending is some PR, March was never a slow month, it's the final month of the fiscal year and there is always a lot of big games and spending during that period. I don't think there was ever a bad timing to launch a console. The PS4 price was also 100$ higher, if you want to push the comparison seriously ¯\_(ツ
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The PS4 launched during the holidays, but it was also directly facing its rival, the Xbox One. Nintendo had a launch without competition. And unlike what Nintendo was pretending is some PR, March was never a slow month, it's the final month of the fiscal year and there is always a lot of big games and spending during that period. I don't think there was ever a bad timing to launch a console. The PS4 price was also 100$ higher, if you want to push the comparison seriously ¯\_(ツ
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jts
...hate me...
It can honestly sell even more than that, being an evergreen title and all.
Bit of DLC content and some bundling down the road can also go a long way to keep the attach rate high. If Swifch reaches 60M, MK8D can hit 15-20M and that's with a conservative or even pessimistic attach rate expectation.
PS4 launched in all major markets within 3 months of launch, since we are looking at the first 4 months and PS4's sales were not very strong after initial launch in Japan, I don't think this is relevant. I also don't think XB1's Japan market matters at all.
I believe it will, the only current 2 Zelda titles to reach 10m are Ocarina and Twilight Princess (when you combine all released versions ofcourse) and i am sure BotW will be the third in the series. It will take some years but it will get there surely someday.
For comparison (if that is even useful: both Wii and Switch were/are supply constrained):
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
imagine how many would have been sold if they weren't out of stock so often.
my switch crapped itself. i want another one but still hard to find. at this rate i might just wait for the inevitable updated Switch.
my switch crapped itself. i want another one but still hard to find. at this rate i might just wait for the inevitable updated Switch.
I was really worried about the Switch after the January conference but getting my hands on the system and games has made me do a 180 on it. This is the most satisfied I have been with Nintendo in a long time so its awesome to see the Switch take off! Also I'm like irrationally happy that ARMS is selling well and I hope it keeps selling.
So happy to see these numbers. The Switch is simply amazing and I hope it's the direction Sony and Microsoft go down the road, but at the very least, I want Nintendo to drop the 3DS and unify their teams behind one platform as soon as possible.
Also, congratulations to Nintendo having what I think is the greatest first year of software, possibly ever.
Also, congratulations to Nintendo having what I think is the greatest first year of software, possibly ever.
Switch will sell in it's first 12 months, what took the Wii U 5 years, (~14m) that is also over half of Gamecube's LTD (21.74m) and almost half of N64's numbers (32.92m) Switch's trajectory is pretty much impossible to measure, even if you could draw some conclusions to it's current sales pace, you have to remember that it sells out within hours of restocks, so it's sales history is currently useless beyond it having clear indications that over 5 years, it will likely pass up both GC and N64, especially when Pokemon hasn't even hit the console yet.
CaviarMeths
Member
It will likely pass GC by the end of 2018.
franklyshankly
Member
Can't you get it fixed by Nintendo? There's at least a year warranty right?
That would be a massive disaster considering what's happening now.
So how long can 3rd party publishers continue to justify ignoring the Switch when it's obvious that quality software sells on the system? I imagine that shareholders for EA, Capcpom, Squeenix etc will see these numbers and wonder why their company is ignoring a large and profitable segment of the market.
All units on display will be sold at the current SRP. The game is still selling, it's a service game with free support for the year to come, good reviews and word of mouth, AAA first party fighter, Switch is only 4 month old and ARMS always come with legs.
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
Really great numbers! Mario Kart is nothing new but ARMS broke that 1 million mark quite easily.
Well, I think I'' wait longer to buy it then. I honestly can't justify buying it a high price
20-30 million would be a terrible result for Switch. It should be a lot more.
The thing is, 4.7 must be very close to how many consoles were actually produced.
Unless he means until the next Xbox / PS arrive. Still I'd expect more than that. Also if at some point like in 1-2 years Nintendo releases a dockless SKU at a price like 200-220$ this thing will sell like hot cakes.
Just wanted to add that we actually know the exact US number of 1 572 062 units until the end of march due to a leak in the NPD thread. If we add that to the 1,12 million for Japan from the Nintendo report, we end at 2 692 062 units (In Japan shipped should be pretty close to sold-through), so we end up at ~ 450k*(4,7/2,7)=783k !
Interesting to note is that the attach rate in the "rest of the world " made the biggest jump from the 3 regions, it went from 1.82 to 2.86. Americas jumped from 2.38 to 3.33 and Japan had the smallest (absolute) increase from 1.48 to 2.19, for an overall attach rate increase from 2.02 to 2.89.
It will be exciting to see if Japan catches up to the other territories once splatoon 2 is included in the data.
NOLA_Gaffer
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It's not like he's wrong. At retail the only other games you've got to play are ports and multi platform releases. (Lego City, Binding of Isaac, Disgaea, Puyo Tetris, Cave Story, Cars, etc.)
The only other notable releases are Bomberman and 12 Switch, and I doubt folks are snapping up systems to play either of those.
What I said was that seasonal effects are a thing; as in something one should be aware of when comparing Switch sales with that of other consoles launching at different times of the year. What you read was that PS4 only succeeded because it launched close to Christmas.
Christ man. Get a grip.
So just under 700K a month? I guess if they keep that up they will just hit 10 million by FYE when you factor in Christmas (Assuming there is stock). Yeah a 50 million over 5 year gen, whilst not sad is probably not what they wanted, especially if it's replacing the 3DS AND home console.
Fair point, I don't know if saturation is hit for launches regardless of time or not. I guess stock is what's holding them back.
Yeah I haven't bought MK 8 Deluxe either. I have the Wii U version and whilst I've sold the Wii U itself, I play MK 8 on CEMU and it's GORGEOUS.
R_thanatos
Member
Happy for the ARMS numbers , hopefully this franchise has LEGS
Very interesting, thanks for the addition!
I definitely think japan will catch up, seeing as how many units of Splatoon 2 have already been sold!
Rocket League, how could I forget!
Nintendo need to not get arrogant though, the indies were the heart and soul of this system, and Nintendo would be unwise to betray them.
omgwtfbentime
Member
I think a lot of people buying switch post e3 are skipping it. I already bought it on Wii U and got a switch last month and haven't picked it up. Might when all the dlc is out tho.
Good numbers for sure. I know the talk normally is around the big boys fighting each other, but with Sony so far ahead, realistically they aren't being caught. Microsoft is going to have watch Nintendo taking them over. These numbers are quite strong with supply constraints but we'll have to see if it continues
primasaurus
Member
4.7 million as of June 30, 2017, must be well over 5 million by now
To be honest I don't think it is insane. Those are the two games people bought this for.
My guess it's a combination of things:
Nintendo software always sells well on Nintendo platforms but third party software doesn't always sell well.
The Switch likely takes more time and money to port a game to, especially a big AAA game, than it likely takes to port games between the Xbox One, PS4 and PC due to the fairly large difference in specs.
The Switch game cards cost a lot more than Blu Ray disks. We've seen multiple third parties charge $10 more for physical Switch releases and include something like a keychain or the soundtrack download to try and compensate for that higher cost. Some third parties seem to be eating that cost but doing that will cut into profit margins.
Finally while the Switch is selling well right now we have no idea when sales will slow down. Also despite it's strong initial sales it still has a pretty small user base at this point.
Honestly, I think it is hard to speculate that far out with Nintendo. The market for the Switch could easily change when it hits 10m. It could slow down a ton. It could go faster with Mario. We simply don't know.
And it's definitely not something I would bet money on.
D.Lo
Member
Hard to speculate only 3-7 months away?
Switch passing Wii U within a year is an absolute lock.
jts
...hate me...
On what? The Switch surpassing the Wii U sales? It would be the easiest money you could ever make. Hell, even saying that it will happen by 2018 the latest it would be.