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how many times can you ''accidently'' say a word that shouldn't be said by anyone?
Though I agree with your general sentiment it's worth distinguishing between the two as they are far from equal in terms of weight. One is a word that was used to oppress and subjugate an entire race and the other is a word that was used primarily as an insult toward slave drivers.I don't like pewdiepie and he is clearly a racist (I can't understand why anybody still gives him attention TBH) but "cracka" is also a racist and and derogatory term used against white people. You can't call a person racist by using a racist term yourself this is the height of hypocrisy
You can't pick and choose what's a racist term, a racist term is a racist term. If a black person calls a white person a racist term what do think a the white person is going to do?The ๖ۜBronx;249082990 said:Though I agree with your general sentiment it's worth distinguishing between the two as they are far from equal in terms of weight. One is a word that was used to oppress and subjugate an entire race and the other is a word that was used primarily as an insult toward slave drivers.
how many times can you ''accidently'' say a word that shouldn't be said by anyone?
You can't pick and choose what's a racist term, a racist term is a racist term. If a black person calls a white person a racist term what do think a the white person is going to do?
There is no room for racism in all its forms no matter what history there is behind it.
He streams on YouTube, but yea. I'd doubt twitch would do anything as wellTwitch definitely won't do anything. Just like in real life, the popular and famous streamers get special privileges and don't have the same rules normal people have
The most he's going to get again it's a slap on the wrist and his fans will continue to follow him. He'll never actually learn anything or be sorry for what he's done.
Twitch definitely won't do anything. Just like in real life, the popular and famous streamers get special privileges and don't have the same rules normal people have.
But it's not too late for our kids, and I genuinely am concerned about terms like the n word because I can't find anyway to explain it away other than racism, and that's exactly what I want to avoid. I don't want them thinking someone else can do something they can't, or that they need to tread carefully. I want them growing up thinking that the color is completely irrelevant.
I didn't mean to ignore your reply before if that's what you're referring to. There no longer is a discussion to be had on this topic imo after all the closed threads in OT. It's tired at this point imo. Circular disscussions all over the place.
Has anyone made this thread yet? Definitely worth discussing.Can we have a discussion in a separate thread about the Blue Hole side of things too, without focussing on how pdp is a racist asshole? He is, and this should be discussed too, but I feel how pubg deals (or non deals) with this, and bans lesser known streamers and players by clearly measuring their actions differently is worthy a separate discussion.
They know exactly what happened, repeatedly. If a streamer as big as this would have reported someone of using racist slurs repeatedly, with video proof, they'd ban his ass. But they clearly don't give a shit in this case, and that's disgusting. No statement, no warning, no "last chance", no "it's ok we're fine with it" even while it seems they really are, as long as he's bringing in the money.
It sucks, but it also kinda derails this discussion on pdp himself, so maybe someone with a better grasp on the English language than me feels the same way and can put up a good thread about it. If that's okay with the mods, that is.
You can't pick and choose what's a racist term, a racist term is a racist term. If a black person calls a white person a racist term what do think a the white person is going to do?
There is no room for racism in all its forms no matter what history there is behind it.
You shouldn't. You should blame PewdiepieI blame the people that watch this crap and make the people famous in the first place.
It's astounding how so many people simply can't grasp this basic notion. The fact that this needs to be repeated over and over is so tiring.pewdiepie says otherwise, in addition to his racial slurs. it's hilarious how the crux of your argument is that you're too scared to explain racism to your kids because you think it'll somehow poison their minds and make them racist or that they're too stupid to understand the issue. eliminating racism doesn't start by not "seeing color", that's the fucking end result, eliminating racism starts by confronting the issue and acknowledging that it exists today and will continue to in the future. so congratulations, because of your fecklessness you're aiding in its perpetuation.
He streams on youtubeWonder if Twitch would take any action against him at this point.
You shouldn't. You should blame Pewdiepie
Yeah, when kids started watching a guy play Fight Nights at Freddy's years ago they definitely were also aware that he was going to call someone the N word while playing a game in the future.I blame the people that watch this crap and make the people famous in the first place.
This amazes me about the whole situation also. There is no one around him that says: dude, fucking stop the streams for a bit, this is not a good idea at the moment. There is no PR guy or manager with him who runs stuff by him, or who can put out fires if needed. If you screw up that much and are in the news for this stuff multiple times now this year, hire someone to work with you on that at least.This is a very sad thing, not because of him, i mean, the world its full of assholes, one more is no surprise, but because he is the rolemodel of many young people and its normalicing this kind of behaviour.
It also shows one of the biggest problems of this era and the new "internet idols", , wich is the lack of any and all control mechanisms. With other cases, like singers, sports stars, etc, we had our share of moroms doing/saying stupid things, and just like with tihis guy, their fans would allow and even praise anything. However, there was always some sort of mechanism to limit that behaviour. Be it their company, the organization they depend upon, whatever. But here what we see is a complete lack of control by youtube and most related mediums.
This is terrible in many ways, because it puts a huge power in the hands of someone who, just like this guy,, could turn out to be ra really bad influence for its millions of fans. A platform like youtube cant be silent with this kind of thing and expecting youtubers to "police thenselves" its just silly.
1st - "you stupid fucking nig- oh jesus christ!" (a month ago)
2nd - what a fucking nigger" (september 10th, 2017)
3rd - "nigger" (september 10th, 2017)
4th - "my nev-oh hello!...I don't even want to say the censored version" (september 14th, 2017)
This 4th times comes right after his response/"if apology" which was on september 12th, 2017.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Y4PwAtpV8#t=1m55s - "18!! 18!! 18 nigge-"
So that's 5, do I hear 6?
BTW "cracker" was created and used by white people to belittle the poor southern whites. The modern equivalent would be white trash.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_(pejorative)
Why is this arsehole famous again?
He's a fucking racist that's getting too much attention. I mean if you are still a fan of him after everything that's he's done then no amount of outing him will convince you to hate him. I mean there is a topic on this board every time he says something racist, why?
Who is more racist, pew or jon tron
Who is more racist, pew or jon tron
Who is more racist, pew or jon tron
Who is more racist, pew or jon tron
Who is more racist, pew or jon tron
Has his viewership gone up or down since this controversy?
Just want to make sure he's not benefitting from being a typical online douchebag.
Why is this arsehole famous again?