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NPD Analyst: Switch US retail SW on pace to be biggest Nintendo launch year on record

Not without spotlighting context. The fact that so many people here are assuming this includes the Wii before realizing when it launched says as much.

But the comparison I'm making does include the Wii... "on pace"

revenue or units sold?

Consumer spend. Units don't mean much due to pricing variability these days.

Thanks for clarification.

I'm fairly confident even time aligned Switch will be right up there with or exceed the other platforms. And this is just physical. Add digital and I'm very confident. Time will tell I guess.
 

Celine

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This gif make me feel anxious lol.
 

Interfectum

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Also old ports and Sports games doesn't count too...

I can see the goalposts moving now.

Where's western third party?

Rockstar announces LA Noire for Switch.

lol old port, where's GTA5 at least?

Rockstar announces GTA5 for Switch.

lol cross gen old game? enjoy no RDR2.

Rockstar announces RDR2 for Switch.

lol late port I already beat it.
 

silva1991

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What are the current-gen AAA games it is getting?

Aside from bethesda, this isn't really much better than the Wii U(talking about new games)

There is FIFA, those WWE and basketball games and...?

WiiU got Assassin's Creed 3 and 4, Batman Origins, FIFA13 and more.
 

Celine

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With the basis being a calendar year, the best comparisons are 3DS (launched in March) and GBA (launched in June).

IIRC, the GBA launch went really well hardware-wise, so it's still impressive to beat this "by a large margin", even if the GBA launch had three months fewer.
Problem with comparing software sales on home consoles and handheld consoles is that historically handheld tie ratio is much lower than home console tie ratio.
Then again Switch isn't following a traditional console pattern ...
 
revenue or units sold?

It's revenue.

Which makes the whole comparison kinda weird since this is literally the first console Nintendo has ever launched in March with $60+ software (or in the case of BotW, $100+ software).

But of course that software is selling gangbusters which is really what makes Switch such a hit.
 

Griss

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Even though it launched in June, I'd argue the GBA is also a fair comparison.

I also guarantee you that if someone had stated eight months ago that Switch would have the best Nintendo launch calendar year, software-wise, in 22 years, that person would have been laughed at by most people. It really wasn't until BotW's stellar reviews that some people started realizing "hey, this might go better than I thought".

This also includes all software, not just first party releases. So, Switch is breaking Nintendo launch year records with almost zero third party support (yet). It's very impressive.

Exactly. It was all about BotW. I just never saw it as that killer app - I was actually really really worried that it might be mediocre, or poorly reviewed. Instead it was the consensus GotY, in March. The reception was deafening and rapturous (a 98 MC is unheard of these days), and if you're in any way into games it was hard to avoid or ignore. Everyone was talking about it. That single game changed the entire conversation about the Switch, I'm sure of it. Previews of the hardware itself had been pretty reserved, circumspect. "Wait and see". Zelda changed the tone of the discourse for good.

I mean, it's a great piece of kit. It's a good idea. But it's pricey, has pricey peripherals and as a home console it's weak. It wasn't a guaranteed slam dunk by any means. Zelda is the reason that there was breathless hype surrounding it from a week before launch to a month afterwards, why it immediately had a buzz of positive press, and from there that momentum just carried on. Since I didn't see Zelda being that kind of 'event game', I couldn't see the impact the Switch would have on the market.

Never been so happy to be wrong about a game as I was about Zelda. Iwata always talked about 'one game can change everything' and I really believe it was BotW that changed Nintendo's fortunes. Long may the good times continue.
 

Hero

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But the comparison I'm making does include the Wii... "on pace"



Consumer spend. Units don't mean much due to pricing variability these days.



I'm fairly confident even time aligned Switch will be right up there with or exceed the other platforms. And this is just physical. Add digital and I'm very confident. Time will tell I guess.

I agree with you. Next year when we have an entire full year of sales data it will be interesting to see the results. I have no doubts that the first 12 months of Switch SW sales (physical only) will be at the top like you say. This holiday season is going to shoot Switch into the stratosphere. I'm already anticipating all the angry articles about how parents can't find Switches in stores in November/December.
 

Fiendcode

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Also worth noting GBC isn't really a new platform launch. It's a midcycle upgrade more akin to DSi, New 3DS or PS4 Pro. Also all it's 1998 games could be played on older GB systems so launch wise it definitely isn't a good comparison, although it did get native only games starting in the following year.
 
But it's pricey, has pricey peripherals and as a home console it's weak.

It launched at a lower price than its competitors launched at, peripheral pricing has never been a significant mover of a console's fortunes, and there is no clear historical pattern of the strongest console having a market advantage.

The real tell is which system has the perceived best lineup. That system always, always, always wins, price be damned. The second Wii's lineup started thinning while Xbox got Minecraft and Sony continued to be super productive was the second Wii faltered in sales.
 
Problem with comparing software sales on home consoles and handheld consoles is that historically handheld tie ratio is much lower than home console tie ratio.
Then again Switch isn't following a traditional console pattern ...

Will be interesting to see how tie ratio on Switch develops. Considering that development costs for games will be those of HD consoles hopefully it remains close to traditional home consoles as like you said handhelds have had historically way lower tie ratio.
 

MilkBeard

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My mind is also changing on Switch...I was a little burned by the last few Nintendo systems, but the Switch is making me want to get it. Seems like more and more developers are saying "me too!" As well now that Switch is doing well. Hope it keeps up.
 
Exactly. It was all about BotW. I just never saw it as that killer app - I was actually really really worried that it might be mediocre, or poorly reviewed. Instead it was the consensus GotY, in March. The reception was deafening and rapturous (a 98 MC is unheard of these days), and if you're in any way into games it was hard to avoid or ignore. Everyone was talking about it. That single game changed the entire conversation about the Switch, I'm sure of it. Previews of the hardware itself had been pretty reserved, circumspect. "Wait and see". Zelda changed the tone of the discourse for good.

I mean, it's a great piece of kit. It's a good idea. But it's pricey, has pricey peripherals and as a home console it's weak. It wasn't a guaranteed slam dunk by any means. Zelda is the reason that there was breathless hype surrounding it from a week before launch to a month afterwards, why it immediately had a buzz of positive press, and from there that momentum just carried on. Since I didn't see Zelda being that kind of 'event game', I couldn't see the impact the Switch would have on the market.

Never been so happy to be wrong about a game as I was about Zelda. Iwata always talked about 'one game can change everything' and I really believe it was BotW that changed Nintendo's fortunes. Long may the good times continue.

Good post, and I agree. At least for the west. You can replace all instances of "Zelda" there with "Splatoon 2" for Japan.

Also the hardware previews were all pretty positive. It was the OS and features that people were (and still are) a bit hesitant on.
 

phanphare

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Switch owners are so starved for games that they're buying games in record amount to satiate their hunger

just in case here's the /s
 
Remember when a lot of posters said Switch would never get western AAA games? Good times. lol

Well, if its sales were tracking near the Wii-U did then that would have been the case. The Switch is tracking much better than the Wii-U so naturally 3rd parties are coming back because they see investment potential with Nintendo again.
 
Is this news really surprising with Golf Story being released today ;)

this news is about sales of games at retail, so Golf Story is completely irrelevant

the really crazy thing is that this is true while Switch has barely any retail games and most of its games are eShop only
 
Is this news really surprising with Golf Story being released today ;)

Which sadly is not a retail release, so it won't be counted in this number.

Seriously, I have 21 games right now and only 6 of them (I believe) are retail releases. The digital only attach rate is gonna be enormous on this thing.

EDIT:
I mean, he isn't wrong. If you take away DOOM, Wolfenstein 2, Skyrim, NBA 2K18, WWE 2K18, etc. etc. What does Switch really have? /s

Just an LA Noire, indies and first party Nintendo machine like all the rest
/s
 

phanphare

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Well, if its sales were tracking near the Wii-U did then that would have been the case. The Switch is tracking much better than the Wii-U so naturally 3rd parties are coming back because they see investment potential with Nintendo again.

remember when a lot of posters said that Switch sales would track near the Wii U? good times. lol
 

JonnyKong

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this news is about sales of games at retail, so Golf Story is completely irrelevant

the really crazy thing is that this is true while Switch has barely any retail games and most of its games are eShop only

Damn, you're right, I should really learn to read things before rushing out a reply.
 
This is why I hope everything exclusives to the WII U eventually makes its way to the Switch. Those games deserve a better spotlight. Stuff like Tokyo Mirage needs to be in the hands of more gamers.
 
I mean, he isn't wrong. If you take away DOOM, Wolfenstein 2, Skyrim, NBA 2K18, WWE 2K18, etc. etc. What does Switch really have? /s
You really think that the Wii U had the same third party support and reception in the first 7 months as the Switch? Especially big names like Rockstar,Squarenix and Bethesda... Also, just wait for the next year E3, is going to be big for the Switch.
 
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You really think that the Wii U had the same third party support and reception in the first 7 months as the Switch? Especially big names like Rockstar,Squarenix and Bethesda... Also, just wait for the next year E3, is going to be big for the Switch.
Did you miss the /s?
 

Waji

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SNES like levels again. Eh. Hope we get memorable RPGs during that era. Need more Atlus, NISA, and Falcom games. I’ve given up on SE bringing back quality RPGs to Switch other than FF and DQ
Unfortunately they already need to bring back good quality FF for your sentence to work.
But I see your point.
 

doicare

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Shocking development!

6-7 months of Switch software sales is greater than that of:

6 weeks of WiiU sales
6 weeks of Wii sales
6 weeks of Gamecube sales
6 weeks of Nintendo DS sales
3 months of Nintendo 64 sales
4 and a half months of Virtual Boy sales
6 and a half months of Gameboy Advanced sales
9 months of Nintendo 3DS sales

The title of this thread makes it seem like the Switch has done something phenomenal when in reality the only impressive thing it's done is beat the 3DS, yet people are losing their minds. The Switch will do fine but it's going to be second this generation and will be lucky to beat the Wii's numbers all while Nintendo sacrificed their dedicated handheld market to achieve it. Wii+DS>Switch, WiiU+3DS~Switch.
 

jorgejjvr

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Shocking development!

6-7 months of Switch software sales is greater than that of:

6 weeks of WiiU sales
6 weeks of Wii sales
6 weeks of Gamecube sales
6 weeks of Nintendo DS sales
3 months of Nintendo 64 sales
4 and a half months of Virtual Boy sales
6 and a half months of Gameboy Advanced sales
9 months of Nintendo 3DS sales

The title of this thread makes it seem like the Switch has done something phenomenal when in reality the only impressive thing it's done is beat the 3DS, yet people are losing their minds. The Switch will do fine but it's going to be second this generation and will be lucky to beat the Wii's numbers all while Nintendo sacrificed their dedicated handheld market to achieve it. Wii+DS>Switch, WiiU+3DS~Switch.
They have mobile now too to make up for it
 
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