LiquidMetal14
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My first run with the maxed settings
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Cyberpunk 2077 2.0: Phantom Liberty | PC/Console Performance|Screenshots
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Topher
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LiquidMetal14
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Run the same test@ quality settings in DLSS to compare 1:1 with our 4090's.
When I first selected overdrive and ran the benchmark it said some things were still off but I restarted the game after I selected overdrive and it says yes in everything that needs to be yes.
I'm curious what a better cpu with ddr5 and a 4090 would give in comparison to my older 9700k and ddr4.
Anyone able to screen shot a benchmark if you have said components?
I just posted mine a few posts back!
The Cockatrice
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Ah....you are correct. No RR on the right....
It gets worse, theres a lot more bugs and issues than HUB mentions.
I think it's safe to say, leave it disabled, imo. RR isnt ready yet.
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TIGERCOOL
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Is all the ghosting with PT/RR normal? It looks great but that's pretty distracting, and I'm assuming it's worse at a lower fps (on a 3080 so can get 50-60fps on balanced dlss at best). The potential is undeniable though. Sometimes it looks truly incredible... just don't think the trade-offs are worth it yet if this is the experience across the board. They'll get the ghosting under control in a few months like they did with early DLSS iterations.
Edit: also confused as to why RR is toggleable with ray tracing completely turned off... surely that's not making any difference
Edit: also confused as to why RR is toggleable with ray tracing completely turned off... surely that's not making any difference
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Topher
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It was mentioned earlier that currently RR is only tied to PT, I believe.
nemiroff
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Yes, most likely because they haven't done the model training for RT yet. The experimenting with integration and training for PT/RR is also obviously not complete, just like Nvidia and CDPR explained in the DF interview. This is definitely preview state. ..But overall I'm so impressed by how the tech is moving forward. What a time to be alive!
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nikos
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Anybody else find Ray Tracing to have better image quality than Path Tracing, especially for character models?
It's most noticeable in characters' faces. I'm thinking about playing with Ray Tracing even if Path Tracing is technically better.
Here's a quick slider comparison.
EDIT: Didn't upload at full resolution for some reason but the difference is still visible. Also seems like people have been complaining about this since before 2.0
It's most noticeable in characters' faces. I'm thinking about playing with Ray Tracing even if Path Tracing is technically better.
Here's a quick slider comparison.
EDIT: Didn't upload at full resolution for some reason but the difference is still visible. Also seems like people have been complaining about this since before 2.0
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hinch7
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Aside from a bit more noise in those screenshots, which is a bit strange (did you happen to flick on film grain by any chance?) Pathtracing with RR looks way more correct with lighting and shadows. Especially noticable on the character models. RR also retains more details than non RR PT, which loses details compared to both normal RT and PT with RR.Here's another comparison. Ray Tracing looks cleanest, especially in motion.
RAY TRACING
PATH TRACING + RAY RECONSTRUCTION
PATH TRACING WITHOUT RAY RECONSTRUCTION
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Alex11
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Yeah, it is indeed better or it will be when they get rid of the bugs. PT with RR corrects the shadows, especially those close contact ones around shoes, chair legs, papers, any object that's close or on the ground. It is subtle, but I think it makes it more grounded.
It's really nice that they managed to improve a bit the graphics and make it run a bit better also.
PT RR
PT
PT RR
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LiquidMetal14
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4090/7800X3D
PT ON - RR OFF. I'll mess with that tomorrow as I read a lot and wanted to just test it out as the game already looks stellar so here are some screenshots.
PT ON - RR OFF. I'll mess with that tomorrow as I read a lot and wanted to just test it out as the game already looks stellar so here are some screenshots.
Buggy Loop
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Guys, check the file versions you have in the folder. Seems like its a mess. Could explain why some have better stability than others.
Topher
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Guys, check the file versions you have in the folder. Seems like its a mess. Could explain why some have better stability than others.
Yeah....this is what I'm seeing....
Where do we get the updated files?
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Get them here:
NVIDIA DLSS 3 Frame Generation DLL 3.7.0 Download
This download provides various versions of NVIDIA's DLSS 3 DLL for download. In this one file, which is bundled with all games that support DLSS 3
NVIDIA DLSS DLL 3.7.0 Download
This download provides various versions of NVIDIA's DLSS DLL for download. In this one file, which is bundled with all games that support NVIDIA's
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hollams
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I had the same thing and I did a google search for Framegen 3.5 DLSS and it showed the site to download them. I'm running the GOG version of the game.Yeah....this is what I'm seeing....
Where do we get the updated files?
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Get them here:
NVIDIA DLSS 3 Frame Generation DLL 3.7.0 Download
This download provides various versions of NVIDIA's DLSS 3 DLL for download. In this one file, which is bundled with all games that support DLSS 3www.techpowerup.com
NVIDIA DLSS DLL 3.7.0 Download
This download provides various versions of NVIDIA's DLSS DLL for download. In this one file, which is bundled with all games that support NVIDIA's
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Topher
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I'm seeing real improvement. Here is my benchmark from earlier.
Just now...
Notice the low went from 17fps to 67fps. Smoothed out that stutter I'd say.
Nice find
Buggy Loop
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LiquidMetal14
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Going to look at those dll's and RR tomorrow.
There is some artifacting in the initial section at the security checkpoint in the desert. Had RR on and turned it off at that point as it looks off in parts of the image.
There is some artifacting in the initial section at the security checkpoint in the desert. Had RR on and turned it off at that point as it looks off in parts of the image.
CrustyBritches
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I had the old 3.1 DLLs for DLSS and FG, so I upgraded them and installed the newest driver. Retested 9 different benchmark settings variations and on average it was .5-1fps faster. Just margin of error type results. I never took screenshots of the benchmark in action, so I couldn't tell you if it looked better or not.
nikos
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Film Grain was off. For some reason Path Tracing introduces graininess and aliasing to the image. Ray Tracing looks a lot cleaner. The image quality issues with Path Tracing are way too distracting for me. Think I'm going to stick to Ray Tracing until Path Tracing image quality is improved, even if the lighting is a lot more realistic.
Topher
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That's my experience as well. I too am just going with RT for now. Looks fantastic.
hollams
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I didn't notice any FPS improvements either with the new DLL's. After I ran the benchmark my game crashed, that's the second crash I've had, but I don't think it's related to the new DLLs.
I have noticed a lot of graphical errors in just my 2 hours of playing, with new DLL's and not, and they are everywhere and it's kind of distracting. I tried turning off Reconstruction, but the issues are still there so it's not related to that feature.
The driving is much improved and it feels more like a car now and the new mini-map is pretty nice as well.
I bought a new 4k projector for my 132" screen that I've been using for over a month now and I haven't used my LG OLED in that time. The projector is nice but it can only do 4K/60 and of course the black levels aren't no where near my Oled, but it does do a decent job with HDR. I played on the projector for awhile but since it's only 60fps I really can't use frame generation since it produces tearing and if I turn on V-sync the input lag is awful since no G-Sync support. I hooked my TV back up and at first the size difference was laughable even though my TV is 77 inches it seemed extremely small . As soon as I started the game with the true blacks and the brighter output of HDR the graphics popped and now I can't go back to the projector for this game.
I have noticed a lot of graphical errors in just my 2 hours of playing, with new DLL's and not, and they are everywhere and it's kind of distracting. I tried turning off Reconstruction, but the issues are still there so it's not related to that feature.
The driving is much improved and it feels more like a car now and the new mini-map is pretty nice as well.
I bought a new 4k projector for my 132" screen that I've been using for over a month now and I haven't used my LG OLED in that time. The projector is nice but it can only do 4K/60 and of course the black levels aren't no where near my Oled, but it does do a decent job with HDR. I played on the projector for awhile but since it's only 60fps I really can't use frame generation since it produces tearing and if I turn on V-sync the input lag is awful since no G-Sync support. I hooked my TV back up and at first the size difference was laughable even though my TV is 77 inches it seemed extremely small . As soon as I started the game with the true blacks and the brighter output of HDR the graphics popped and now I can't go back to the projector for this game.
I have a 3700X and a 2070S and the game still looks bloody incredible, even with lame RT and lower detail, to the point that I keep thinking games can’t look better than this.
The I see those videos running on 4090 maxed out and I really, really, really want to upgrade. Holy shit. When are the 5XXX scheduled to come out?
The I see those videos running on 4090 maxed out and I really, really, really want to upgrade. Holy shit. When are the 5XXX scheduled to come out?
CrustyBritches
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There are some circumstances that Path Tracing doesn't work correctly. It overly darkens the area compared to Raster or Ray Tracing. Here's an example:
Raster(High Preset):
Ray Tracing(RT Ultra Preset:
Path Tracing(RT Ultra Preset then PT):
Your not in overdrive mode in the screenshot you posted, RR only works in overdrive mode currently.
Topher
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Yeah.....figured it out. Thanks
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sorry, I should have kept reading a few more pages before replying.
Topher
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no worries
Buggy Loop
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Seems to be working as intended as you're underneath an overpass
CrustyBritches
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For the overpass to be completely blacked out like that is unnatural, imo. There should be some illumination and surface detail there.
Topher
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NeoLed
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Yeah, that come out wrong. I just don"t envy these perfectionist. Kudos to them to try to squeeze everything they can
sendit
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Crazy, I'm leaving ~40 average FPS on the table pairing a 5800x with a 4090.
Was hesitant to put on Frame Generation but playing at 35-60fps with Path tracing, DLSS Balanced at 3440x1440 was to distracting, often dropping below the magical 45fps needed for VRR. Turned Frame Gen on and feel NO NOTICABLE LAG! Fuck yeah! Now playing at 60-80 fps! Game looks amazing and the improvements they made with 2.0 are sick aswell. Only played halfway thru 1.0 so starting a new save and loving it.
CrustyBritches
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There's presets for pretty much anything you'd want, even Steam Deck. You can look at the official PC requirements sheet, or just try a few out with the ~1min. benchmark and you'll have a good idea of what to use.
They added an absoulute shit ton to the game with this 2.0, so much so you can have much more varied builds, feels more RPGish in that way. I think its worth a new play thru and if you have a beastly PC you can add the Path tracing graphics as a cherry on top.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Phantom Liberty Release Date:
September 26, 2023
Platforms:
PC | PlayStation 5 | Xbox Series X|S
2.0 Patch Notes
- PC - Sept 26,1 AM CEST
- PS5 and Xbox Series X - Sept 26, 12 AM local time
2.0 Patch
On September 21st, you can experience DLSS 3.5 and Ray Reconstruction in Cyberpunk 2077’s Ray Tracing: Overdrive Mode. DLSS 3.5 makes your games even more beautiful, immersive and realistic, and is available for all GeForce RTX users. And on September 26th, Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty will be available for you to jump back once more into Night City, with full ray tracing and DLSS 3.5.
A table of the system requirements to play Cyberpunk 2077 with and without ray tracing enabled.
Non ray tracing requirements:
Minimum: In-game graphics preset low. Resolution: 1080p. Expected FPS: 30. OS: 64-bit Windows 10. Processor: Core i7-6700 or Ryzen 5 1600. Graphics card: Geforce GTX 1060 6GB or Radeon RX 580 8GB or Arc A380. Vram: 6 GB. Ram: 12GB. Storage: 70 GB SSD.
Recommended: In-game graphics preset: high. Resolution: 1080p. Expected FPS: 60. OS 64-bit Windows 10. Processor: Core i7-12700 or Ryzen 7 7800X3D. Graphics card: Geforce RTX 2060 Super or Radeon RX 5700 XT or Arc A770. Vram: 8 GB. Ram: 16 GB. Storage: 70 GB SSD.
Ultra: In-game graphics preset: ultra. Resolution: 2160p. Expected FPS: 60. OS: 64-bit Windows 10. Processor: Core i9-12900 or Ryzen 9 7900X. Graphics card: Geforce RTX 3080 or Radeon RX 7900 XTX. Vram: 12 GB. Ram: 20 GB. Storage: 70 GB NVME.
Ray tracing requirements:
Ray tracing minimum: In-game graphics preset: ray tracing low. Resolution: 1080p. Expected FPS: 30. OS: 64-bit Windows 10. Processor: Core i7-9700 or Ryzen 5 5600. Graphics card: Geforce RTX 2060 or Radeon RX 6800 XT or Arc A750. Vram: 8 GB. Ram: 16 GB. Storage: 70 GB SSD.
Ray tracing recommended: In-game graphics preset: ray tracing ultra. Resolution: 1080p. Expected FPS: 60. OS: 64-bit Windows 10. Processor: Core i9-12900 or Ryzen 9 7900X. Graphics card: Geforce RTX 3080Ti or Radeon RX 7900 XTX. Vram: 12 GB. Ram: 20 GB. Storage: 70 GB NVME.
Ray tracing Overdrive: In-game graphics preset: ray tracing overdrive. Resolution: 2160p. Expected FPS: 60. OS: 64-bit Windows 10. Processor: Core i9-12900 or Ryzen 9 7900X. Graphics card: Geforce RTX 4080. Vram: 16 GB. Ram: 24 GB. Storage: 70 GB NVME.
Additional information:
Ray tracing Overdrive was measured with DLSS Frame Generation switched on.
PC Audio Solution containing Dolby Atmos required for a Dolby Atmos experience.
DRIVERS:
NVIDIA - 537.34 (09/20/2023)
AMD - 23.9.2 (09/20/2023)
INTEL- 31.0.101.4826 (09/21/2023)
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7900X over 7800x3D?
DenchDeckard
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I just have the corsair 360mm rad with the lcd screen. My xpu goes straight to 100 degrees on single core when I run cinebench and it's defdo pasted correctly etc.
Think I'm fucked tbh lol
CrustyBritches
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Yes. The game supports DLSS 3.5 with Ray tracing Reconstruction.
Alright I found out the problem , the people who make the settings menu was on drug or something .
If you turn on RT overdrive , then you can turn RT reconstruction on , the shimmering will go away .
After this if you turn off RT overdrive , the RT reconstruction STILL ON , graphics look normal .
BUT if you turn off RT overdrive and using the old RT(psycho) , RT reconstruction grey out , shit shimmering again .
Basically RT reconstruction require for shimmering/flickering free , and its could only turn on if you're playing non-RT or overdrive RT .
The old RT literally unplayble.