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[StreetsAhead]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyms7KpXlGM

This is what I wanted last year. This is the minimum of what I want this year (not necessarily the same franchises).

All over my face.

 

[BD1]

If the rumour of EA and co. pushing for a normal generational jump pans out then I think a crash will most definitely happen. As an IT professional I find it very difficult and hard to accept some of the decisions that are being made by top executives at a lot of video game companies. A person can model a "Do's and Don't s" computer project management text book for university students based on the shit that went down this generation.

The top guys are trying to change the model to Games-as-a-Service. They want to make all sir money on DLC, micro transactions and subscription model services.

 

[antonz]

wait WTF is Oban ?? what happened ?? did Ideaman drop the bobomb ???

seriously guys -_- I leave u (for a 6 hrs sleep) and all this happen

maybe Ideaman/ShockingAlberto/ or bg could do their own Nintendo Direct and give a date and time 1st before dropping those bobombs >.<*

Oban is a rumored game console soc that was gonna be manufacutred in a dev kit quantity in april. Alot of assumptions by the press etc suggested it was for the nextbox but alot of small details indicate it could be for the Wii U including the timing of when final Wii U dev kits were put togeather and shipped out.

 

[Game-Biz]

Realistic: Enough of an increase to have games that will look noticeably better.
Pessimistic: Another Wii, "overclocked 360" etc etc.

I hope. If this happens I will be soo happy. I've convinced myself this won't be the case though -- I've been hurt before.

 

[AniHawk]

If you encounter anyone from Retro Studios, tell them I said hi

if i tell them the extortionist said hi, i might be dragged out by security.

 

[snesfreak]

if i tell them the extortionist said hi, i might be dragged out by security.

I'd pay up to $5 to see this.

 

[magash]

The top guys are trying to change the model to Games-as-a-Service. They want to make all sir money on DLC, micro transactions and subscription model services.

That is not feasible. Nickel and diming the customer is a recipe for disaster.

 

[The Xtortionist]

if i tell them the extortionist said hi, i might be dragged out by security.

I'll admit that my username is a product of late-night shenanigans and poor impulse control.

A cute wink at any number of Retro employees would suffice.

 

[Krev]

Not really. No matter what, you're going to subconsciously hope for something better. However, in one case you think, "as bad as I expected," and to make things worse there are going to be things that end up below even your lowest expectations. What do you do then? However, if you have your maximum expectations, you're less surprised to see things fall below what you expect because your subconsciously know that it won't reach your lofty expectations. In addition, you enter with a positive disposition.

The point is, you're going to be disappointed in some ways no matter what you do, so aiming for the lowest doesn't really help. It'll just make you one of the people struggling to bring the happy people back down to earth. I'm not saying go crazy, but at least be balanced but leaning towards optimism.

Spoiler

Even if I intentionally set high expectations for myself, you said it yourself, I'll still be subconsciously aware that they're not going to be met. And my disappointment or satisfaction will be based on whether those 'subconscious' expectations will be met, not the ones I know are never going to be reached. Moreover, I'm not going to be thinking 'as bad as I expected', I'm going to be thinking, 'fair enough'. I'd actually be pretty satisfied with a Wii U that never sees UE4 support, as long as it has a decent amount of quality third party games (particularly from Japan), a great first-party line-up, and a good free online service.

 

[methodman]

I'd pay up to $5 to see this.

i'll add .50 and even give you a taco bell coupon you can give to josh freeman... he'll be your best friend

 

[BD1]

That is not feasible. Nickel and diming the customer is a recipe for disaster.

I don't disagree with you, but that's what their trying to do.

 

[IsntChrisL]

I can't see the Wii U using USB 3.0. Are major computer manufacturers even putting out a significant amount of products with USB 3.0?

 

[Lonely1]

got my e3 badge today. step one of my plan is complete. next step: getting a day off from work.

Just quit your job, I heard is very easy to get a new one nowadays.

 

[magash]

I don't disagree with you, but that's what their trying to do.

Sigh...lets just hope the fallout is not that bad.

 

[AceBandage]

wait WTF is Oban ?? what happened ?? did Ideaman drop the bobomb ???

seriously guys -_- I leave u (for a 6 hrs sleep) and all this happen

maybe Ideaman/ShockingAlberto/ or bg could do their own Nintendo Direct and give a date and time 1st before dropping those bobombs >.<*

Here:

A news concerning the dev kits (models, availability to developers, etc.)

One month and half ago, i told you that big third-parties were noticed by Nintendo that they should receive the development kits following the V4 ones that they used since late last year/start of january, at the end of march/beginning of april. These "V5" dev kits seemed to be tagged final or near final, and see a slight increase in their performances.

Here's the message which i'm referring to

Nearly all this post's infos are STILL relevant, except the time schedule. It appears third-parties were waiting for these dev kits during all april. There has been a delay of at least one month in the supply of this equipment by Nintendo.

But finally, they just received them

Another important news: they are the mass produced dev kits.

_________________________

Here's some bits of my previous message in regard to this subject, but updated:

- Except maybe big japanese studios (like Capcom), i doubt that other third-parties received these dev kits (much) earlier. It's likely that my sources are one of the firsts to be granted of the latest revisions. This means that all the declarations, the news, from foreign developers, that you've read until now, were certainly in a V4 dev kit framework, before the release of these newest ones.

- A previous post of lherre indicated that Nintendo guys were testing an engine and saw slightly improved results on the "V5" compare to V4.
Context: it was posted 2 month and half ago, when lherre decided to come out of his lair in answer to my very first message to confirm that Wii U was clearly closer to "2x than 5x xbox360". And he basically added that the expected more advanced dev kit in Nintendo headquarters at the time that i've talked about will not change dramatically the Wii U power status. So he surely knew of these engine benchmarks before my intervention, maybe some days, maybe some weeks.
Assumption: considering the at least 3 months interval between these internal tests and the V5 delivery to third-parties (minus the dev kits assembly and shipping), there's a good chance that the V5 dev kits in the hands of foreign studios have received even more hardware refinements and optimizations than the models used for these Nintendo tests some time before. More about that in this following message.

__________________

Additional infos:

- Third-parties have one month to adapt to these new dev kits and to what they bring (in terms of performances increase, hardware modifications, and new features) until E3.
- As they are tagged "Mass Production", they are final. Maybe there will be later revisions with small refinements here and there, but nothing drastic, except changes of plans from Nintendo. So the hardware is stable now.
- One of the dev kit aspect (in comparison to the v4 ones) is... original
- Teasing part: besides possible improvement of the system power (slight to moderate though), there is at least one additional good news that come with them. It's not necessarily the obvious ones

Still interesting to know that they are the mass produced models, and are supplied to third-parties just now.

 

[Krev]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyms7KpXlGM

This is what I wanted last year. This is the minimum of what I want this year (not necessarily the same franchises).

All over my face.

I agree, this is the target they need to hit.

 

[HylianTom]

Sigh...lets just hope the fallout is not that bad.

There's a perverse part of me that wants to see them try to get away with this. It's the part of me that slows-down to look at grisly wrecks on the side of the road.

If they do succeed, gamers deserve what they get.
If they fail, it stands as a lesson that this kind of thing shouldn't even be considered.

 

[The Xtortionist]

Optical port please, for the love of fuck

 

[snesfreak]

i'll add .50 and even give you a taco bell coupon you can give to josh freeman... he'll be your best friend

I WILL SMACK YOUR FACE OFF OF YOUR FACE!

 

[Gahiggidy]

How about pulling off this demo...?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtxvpS5AYHQ

 

[Antioch]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyms7KpXlGM

This is what I wanted last year. This is the minimum of what I want this year (not necessarily the same franchises).

All over my face.

I think a video like this, in which they would not only show the updated controller but also announce tonnes of games (both third and first party, ideally GTA V, RE 6, Pikmin 3 etc.) would be the best way to start the E3 conference. If they do this before even having anyone on stage the hype would get ridiculous.

 

[Fantastical]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyms7KpXlGM

This is what I wanted last year. This is the minimum of what I want this year (not necessarily the same franchises).

All over my face.

I hope they don't reveal them all in montage (is that right word?) form like that, though. I would love surprises paced well throughout the presentation. Honestly, a video like that shouldn't be hard for them to pull off. We already know a good amount of third party games that are coming, and we know next to nothing about Nintendo's offering outside of Smash, Mario, and Pikmin. I think this E3 is going to be very good for games.

I think a video like this, in which they would not only show the updated controller but also announce tonnes of games (both third and first party, ideally GTA V, RE 6, Pikmin 3 etc.) would be the best way to start the E3 conference. If they do this before even having anyone on stage the hype would get ridiculous.

Lol basically said the opposite of me.

 

[boiled goose]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyms7KpXlGM

This is what I wanted last year. This is the minimum of what I want this year (not necessarily the same franchises).

All over my face.

That trailer right there changed gaming.
Look at the direction of casual and accessible game commercials today.

The most impressive thing IMO is the sound. You can hear the clicks of the buttons and the sound of the actions on the games connect really well to the movements of the Wiimote.
It makes you want to reach out and touch the controller to start playing.

It still has a powerful effect, even after playing most of the games shown in the reel.

 

[methodman]

Funny stuff that happens so often in this thread: I put the pictures of the blockbuster UK leak in this thread. We discussed it for about a page (100 posts per), and then after another page or two, it was posted again, "not sure if this was posted but have you guys seen this blockbuster UK leak?? and then it was discussed for another page. same shit happened like 4 times in an entire day. love it, lol

 

[AniHawk]

I'll admit that my username is a product of late-night shenanigans and poor impulse control.

A cute wink at any number of Retro employees would suffice.

again, security.

 

[Gahiggidy]

Spoiler

Even if I intentionally set high expectations for myself, you said it yourself, I'll still be subconsciously aware that they're not going to be met. And my disappointment or satisfaction will be based on whether those 'subconscious' expectations will be met, not the ones I know are never going to be reached. Moreover, I'm not going to be thinking 'as bad as I expected', I'm going to be thinking, 'fair enough'. I'd actually be pretty satisfied with a Wii U that never sees UE4 support, as long as it has a decent amount of quality third party games (particularly from Japan), a great first-party line-up, and a good free online service.

Why did you spoiler that? Seriously, keep that tag for the movie threads and game endings. Its getting a little over used lately.

Btw, if Wii U never gets UE4 support it will probably have little to do with its abilities and more to do with the health of 3rd party sales.

 

[AceBandage]

Actually, for the optimists here, what are your expectations for E3, hardware/software-wise? Just for comparison's sake.

I suppose I could be considered "optimistic", though I consider it more realistic.
Hardware wise, it'll be a very noticeable jump. We already know this. Why people think otherwise is beyond me.
Software, we'll see a lot of multiplatform games. Fairly high profile, maybe some you didn't think would make it. A few third party exclusives. Then three or four Nintendo games.

 

[Fantastical]

That trailer right there changed gaming.
Look at the direction of casual and accessible game commercials today.

The most impressive thing IMO is the sound. You can hear the clicks of the buttons and the sound of the actions on the games connect really well to the movements of the Wiimote.
It makes you want to reach out and touch the controller to start playing.

It still has a powerful effect, even after playing most of the games shown in the reel.

Yep, Nintendo's Wii marketing team circa 2006 was AMAZING. You could easily see their influence in stuff that Sony and Microsoft did years later, even before their motion sensing controller stuff was out. I seem to remember some photos Sony released of people playing with their PS3's and they were very reminiscent of Wii advertisement photographs. Also the "We Would Like to Play" commercials were brilliant.

Then they got less good, using those commercials for stuff like Metroid Prime 3.

 

[BurntPork]

Spoiler

Even if I intentionally set high expectations for myself, you said it yourself, I'll still be subconsciously aware that they're not going to be met. And my disappointment or satisfaction will be based on whether those 'subconscious' expectations will be met, not the ones I know are never going to be reached. Moreover, I'm not going to be thinking 'as bad as I expected', I'm going to be thinking, 'fair enough'. I'd actually be pretty satisfied with a Wii U that never sees UE4 support, as long as it has a decent amount of quality third party games (particularly from Japan), a great first-party line-up, and a good free online service.

If you say so. I'm just going to save a certain part of my post for later.

 

[John Harker]

I thought 'bragging about inside knowledge cause its fun' wasn't allowed around here? why are so many people feeding into this so much?

 

[Log4Girlz]

I thought 'bragging about inside knowledge cause its fun' wasn't allowed around here? why are so many people feeding into this so much?

PM me everything you know about the Wii U, come on, I won't spill anything. lol

 

[Penguin]

I thought 'bragging about inside knowledge cause its fun' wasn't allowed around here? why are so many people feeding into this so much?

11 months.. I guess folks want something.. even if its thin.. to latch onto.

 

[Anth0ny]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw0raXqreoY&list=FLMLtS6JXMec7EiWmPFP5Fwg&index=4&feature=plpp_video

That is the minimum of what I'd like to see for Wii U power

 

[AceBandage]

I thought 'bragging about inside knowledge cause its fun' wasn't allowed around here? why are so many people feeding into this so much?

Says the hit and run teaser.

 

[VAPitts]

When you become a full member, you should be given jett's 'Mr. Negativity' tag. Or maybe 'Mr. Bitterness' would be more accurate.

some comments just spark the sarcasm demon inside of me. i normally don't say anything and at least i'm not always making up things to attack Nintendo about.

 

[The Xtortionist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw0raXqreoY&list=FLMLtS6JXMec7EiWmPFP5Fwg&index=4&feature=plpp_video

That is the minimum of what I'd like to see for Wii U power

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2T4cMt6pO8&list=FLXBJd1K5GuURzLqx3TVzD0w&index=3&feature=plpp_video

 

[ViewtifulJC]

I thought 'bragging about inside knowledge cause its fun' wasn't allowed around here? why are so many people feeding into this so much?

If you're saying you don't like Ideaman's posts....

...I agree >_>

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

My estimated launch day purchases, presuming all these titles are there day 1:

Colonel Marines
BLOPS II (just to show support, probably wont play much)
Pikmin 3
AC3
Arkham City
Darksiders 2

I may or may not purchase Rayman, it really depends on how I'm feeling at the time. The same goes for Killer Freaks

$360 for games and a high end estimate of $350 for the console = $710 + tax = roughly $780 single day purchase. It's gonna be a good day

Mine goes:

- Whatever Nintendo's biggest 1st party game is, if it's Pikmin it's Pikmin, if it's Mario then I'll get Mario.
- Blops 2

I don't do backlogs so I only play 1 game at a time (with the addition of a maximum of one MP game). When I thorough beat everything there is to beat in that Nintendo game, I'll get the other Nintendo game, no way they only launch with 1 first party game.

Then when I knock that out. I'll catch up on AC3 and whatnot.

 

[Krev]

Why did you spoiler that? Seriously, keep that tag for the movie threads and game endings. Its getting a little over used lately.

I wanted to just post the picture, but I realized I should type a proper response, so I compromised. But you're right, it's overused and I shouldn't have used it there.

 

[BD1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw0raXqreoY&list=FLMLtS6JXMec7EiWmPFP5Fwg&index=4&feature=plpp_video

That is the minimum of what I'd like to see for Wii U power

Man, Wind Waker was such a great looking game.

Although I think it's in Nintendo's best interests to keep that style away from Zelda going forward, I'd love if they created a new IP with Wind Waker's art direction.

 

[lednerg]

All I know is, the hardware in the PS4 and Xbox 3 could completely eclipse Wii U by a factor of ten but it wouldn't amount to a hill of beans unless and until game developers can make the difference apparent. Expecting tons of CGI-esque next gen games is also expecting publishers to foot the bill for those endeavors. That's quite a tall order, and more than a little risky for unproven platforms in this economy. I think that the expectations of some of the more rabid MS and Sony fans for their next gen games are what need to be tapered - especially if they're expecting lots of them in quick succession. Nintendo fanboys on the other hand are by and large saying the level of graphics of Zelda HD and the bird demo from last E3 are what they expect, and that doesn't appear to be all that unrealistic, imo.

 

[guek]

I thought 'bragging about inside knowledge cause its fun' wasn't allowed around here? why are so many people feeding into this so much?

Some people are desperate. Many find it rather annoying but are also starved for information.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I thought 'bragging about inside knowledge cause its fun' wasn't allowed around here? why are so many people feeding into this so much?

desperation bud, desperation.

edit: goddamn beaten

 

[InsaneZero]

I thought 'bragging about inside knowledge cause its fun' wasn't allowed around here? why are so many people feeding into this so much?

Same reason why there's five threads for an unreleased console that has very little actual information revealed for it.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyms7KpXlGM

This is what I wanted last year. This is the minimum of what I want this year (not necessarily the same franchises).

All over my face.

you guys do realize how bad that is right?
Why would you want a 5 minute montage...with 2 and half minutes of footage?
OH JEEZ SO EXCITING

 

[Krev]

I thought 'bragging about inside knowledge cause its fun' wasn't allowed around here? why are so many people feeding into this so much?

Beats me. I would have thought that by now people would have realized that teasing stuff out is just a ploy for attention. "Hey guys, keep all eyes on my posts! If you're not careful I might just drop something big when you're not looking!"

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

I thought 'bragging about inside knowledge cause its fun' wasn't allowed around here? why are so many people feeding into this so much?

It is the speculation thread. If someone said they saw the Wii U next to a donut there will be 50 pages of people arguing if the Wii U was on par with the donut or not..

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

It is the speculation thread. If someone said they saw the Wii U next to a donut there will be 50 pages of people arguing if the Wii U was on par with the donut or not..

wiiU definitely wouldn't taste as good, so Nintendo needs to work on that.

 

[BD1]

My estimated launch day purchases, presuming all these titles are there day 1:

Colonel Marines
BLOPS II (just to show support, probably wont play much)
Pikmin 3
AC3
Arkham City
Darksiders 2

I may or may not purchase Rayman, it really depends on how I'm feeling at the time. The same goes for Killer Freaks

I'm thinking:

Mario
Pikmin 3
Arkham City
Madden 13
AC3

And then one of the presumed big FPS: Killer Freaks, BLOPs 2 or 007 Legends.

Ugh, and that's not including games we have no idea about. It's going to be an expensive launch...

 

[Krev]

some comments just spark the sarcasm demon inside of me. i normally don't say anything and at least i'm not always making up things to attack Nintendo about.

Fair enough. Maybe 'Mr. Sarcasm' will suffice!