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IGN Survey (62,000 Surveyed): Gamers aren't excited by motion controls.
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Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
PES Wii
Wii Sports Resort
Sports Champion
Trauma Team
Kororinpa 1+2
Sin & Punishment 2
Ghost Squad
Grand Slam Tennis 1 Wii M+
Red Steel 2 M+
Killzone 3
etc.
nincompoop
Banned
The Kororinpa series says you're dead wrong.
famousmortimer
Banned
This is pretty much where i stand, though I wouldn't say any other = bad. I would say most other = bad. I had a lot of fun with Sports Champions, for instance... and Wii Sports. So, um, 1 game on each platform isn't bad, right?
But as a pointer - fuck yeah. I vastly prefer it to dual analogs for shooters, and it's far, far superior to a normal controller for strategy games.
To hear some people here talk, that's exactly what motion control was supposed to do. Motion control was going to be the future! It was the inevitable replacement for traditional gamepads, which were daunting for newcomers and 'lapsed' gamers (too many buttons!) And anyone who didn't embrace 'the future!' according to these prophets was just a Luddite clinging vainly to the past, who would be weeping bitter tears when motion control replaced their precious gamepads.
It really shouldn't come as much of a surprise that attitudes like that would rub people the wrong way.
krystallinity
Banned
I'd personally like a survey on IGN demographics.
CrankyKong
Member
I've liked a alot of games despite their motion controls.
Skyward Sword would have been pretty great without them.
Skyward Sword would have been pretty great without them.
Total agreement, ExciteTruck was completely awesome. I never felt like the motion controls were in the way and it handled really well. One of my favorite racing games this generation.
I really think that part of the problem was that developers made games without thinking about the motion controls, resulting in poor implementations when they arrived half baked. In games where it was thought out well (like WarioWare: Smooth Moves, ExciteTruck, NMH, Godfather, Boom Blox, Skyward Sword, etc.) they didn't get in your way and felt natural. In games where they were obviously tacked on (da Blob's shake to jump was pretty much the only bad part of that game) it felt awkward and left you missing the standard control scheme.
I guess the other half of that problem is that a lot of people didn't play the better games. Honestly, how many people played ExciteTruck or Godfather as compared to Red Steel, which was a poor showing no matter how you slice it (ha).
I still think motion controls have a place in gaming and there's plenty of examples pointing in the direction they should be taken in the next generation.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
I've seen that style of data representation plenty of times before, but something looks really bad about it this time. IGN needs a real print designer.
timetokill
Banned
Hell yes. ExciteTruck love-in.
My favorite game for the Wii for a good while there. The custom soundtracks combined with that perfect arcade racer feel. The motion controls were absolutely key to the experience.
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Zack and Wiki, Mario Kart Wii, Skyward Sword. Gunstringer, Maybe Sin and Punishment 2...but thats more IR pointer than anything.
Zack and Wiki, Mario Kart Wii, Skyward Sword. Gunstringer, Maybe Sin and Punishment 2...but thats more IR pointer than anything.
That's pretty much it, except for very specific titles like Kororinpa.
And of course, the mouse is a better pointing device than any alternative I've used so far.
SkyMasterson
Member
Yea RE4 was really well done with motion controls but even still sometimes it's more of a pain.
I have a ton of Wii games and enjoy most of them, like Excite Truck is pretty awesome with motion controls. Deadly Creatures is actually pretty fun with motion controls versus if I were doing the movies with a button input on a controller.
Wii Sports(Specifically Tennis and Bowling) are a blast and some of the stuff on Wii Sports Resort is pretty cool as well. I actually prefer motion via the Wii rather than the Kinect...
but still sometimes its just more comfortable and convenient to use a controller.
Hopefully they learn that soon, especially MS ffs.
Dr Frasier Crane
Member
grimshawish
Banned
"Readers" - Oh look is IGN masturbating in their offices again?
Am sure all 3 companies will be looking at this more than their sales figures.
...what did IGN score MW2/3 again?
Am sure all 3 companies will be looking at this more than their sales figures.
...what did IGN score MW2/3 again?
Prophet Steve
Member
Double Fine Happy Action Theater.
Suck it.
To be serious, I'm not really a fan of motion controls in this state, haven't tried the Playstation Move, but I feel like the Kinect and Wiimote lack precision. I'm kinda interested in seeing how they improve the tech if everything would feel responsive, the games would be great and there would be a combination of tactile stuff and something like Kinect, I am curious to find out what can be done.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I have a feeling people are also grouping pointer to motion control.
Dion Blaster
Member
Just realized, if MS comes out with a 2-handed remote (like a wireless wm+n) to work in harmony with kinect, that could up some really cool gameplay opportunities.
Thanks for the laugh, I really needed it.
Gotta hold your hand in a certain way to point the damn thing!
Aquavelvaman
Banned
"More people do not care about motion controls than actively want it."
This could be said about almost everything in the universe.
This could be said about almost everything in the universe.
Other than pointer aiming, I really can't think of anything decent brought by the motion control paradigm. The only pure motion game that I ever liked was Boom Blox, but that's definitely not enough for me to anticipate more motion control devices. So far, 9/10 times, traditional controllers are better. The 1/10 times is not worth the exchange.
It's obviously all personal preference so you can argue either way. If I was going to say great, I would say both Skyward Sword (I didn't have the problems others had) and Zack and Wiki.
It's funny how one was near the start of the gen, and the other at the end.
If the Monkey Ball developers just would have taken a hint from Kororinpa... Sigh.
Were the sales of Wii Sports and Kinect Star Wars not enough?
InsaneLuchador
Member
What game are we talking about? Was there a good Wii Call of Duty game?
They sometimes feel tacked on, and especially Kinect seems rather unresposive based on what I've seen so far. Move is a good pointer, but that's about it.
I guess I'd be more interested in motion controls of they were on par with joystick controllers. That or they can actually mimic my motions one to one, sensing the slightest of movement. Kinect is a step in the right direction in this sense but the games really lack full control of your character.
I guess I'd be more interested in motion controls of they were on par with joystick controllers. That or they can actually mimic my motions one to one, sensing the slightest of movement. Kinect is a step in the right direction in this sense but the games really lack full control of your character.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Which is kinda sad because pointer is really one of the best things to come out this gen as far as controllers are concerned.
Captain_Spanky
Member
Absolutely ruined Skyward Sword for me. First Zelda game I've played and actively disliked. In fact it made me realise that motion stuff is best kept simple. I see no point in motion plus, but am a HUGE wii gamer.
A hint, IGN: "The software isn't interesting" is *not* a reason for not wanting motion controls. It is a failing of the software being developed for motion controls.
I wouldn't call it a great game - other people have made far better suggestions on that front - but I do have to say that The Godfather was *infinitely* improved with the Wii control scheme. It's what made me wonder what a better base game would have been like on Wii.
eXistor
Member
It all boils down to that one important thing: is the software good? If it's not then of course no one is going to like it. There is little wrong with the actual motion controls, games that implement it well benefit from it (Skyward Sword proved this to me and I was skeptical). People hated the 3DS at first. Why? No must-have games. Now everyone loves it. Vita? Same deal, only there needs to be some great software for people to change their minds about that one first.
If there were more quality games that use motion controls well (it needs to be a supportive tool, not the main focus) all would be well and people would love it.
If there were more quality games that use motion controls well (it needs to be a supportive tool, not the main focus) all would be well and people would love it.
Freezie KO
Banned
Originally, CoD 3 came out on Wii with mediocre controls. Then Metroid Prime 3 came out, and World at War followed. WaW used a number of presets, like Metroid Prime, and controlled pretty well.
Then The Conduit came out and changed everything. Sure, the game itself was "meh," but the controls were amazing. They let you customize everything. Turn speeds, every cursor movement, every sensitivity, horizontal and vertical sizes for bounding boxes, everything.
CoD 4, Black Ops, and Modern Warfare 3 all made it to the Wii, after that. They combined the Call of Duty gameplay with the best pointer aiming controls yet seen on the console with Conduit-level customization.
Black Ops and MW3 even let remote users play against Classic Controller users. Here's something from Destructoid's review of MW3.
Once again, with the actual popularity of motion controls, this just proves that "hardcore" gamers are only a small part of the market.
A lot of people right now are happily playing Just Dance. All IGN proves is that amongst their own readers motion control is unpopular, to which I say duuuuuuuuuuuuh.
A lot of people right now are happily playing Just Dance. All IGN proves is that amongst their own readers motion control is unpopular, to which I say duuuuuuuuuuuuh.
It is. I hate these "web 2.0 hipster" infographics. Just gimme the graphs as a cake and be done with it!
I am unfit as *hell*, but I still respect control schemes that are *interesting*, even if they're things I'm not suited to. I love DDR, own a couple of pads. I really liked Prop Cycle when we had it in our Student Union years ago. Doing something a bit different, interacting with a game in a new way that I needed to learn from scratch was wonderful.
Several. Not that you'd know from various games media sites.
I was wondering if any of them allowed Dual analogue users to play against wiimote+chuck users. Interested to hear the outcome.
Table tennis in Sports Champions was the first game that made me enjoy motion controls.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Not even close to being true. I'm starting to think you were being sarcastic because I didn't think it was possible to be this wrong.
MatthewB92
Member
Why does the Enjoy the motion control stat have a angry face?
Criminal Upper
Banned
IGN's mandate is usually to tell their readers that motion controls are for lame babies, and that they should buy Mass Effect 3 which features resident IGN sexpot, Jesscia Chobot!
So this does not surprise me.
So this does not surprise me.
rofl..what do you need a survey for..isn't that common sense?
SHOCKING NEWS:
People don't wanna stand in front of their TV makin stupid gestures to play games!*
I'm not even gonna dispute that it's fun for parties but that's about it.
WTF? What has this to do with anything?
You really gonna argue that waggle controls are the same as using a mouse?
*I know you can control most games sitting down, but I still have to make weird gestures instead of just pressing a button.
SHOCKING NEWS:
People don't wanna stand in front of their TV makin stupid gestures to play games!*
I'm not even gonna dispute that it's fun for parties but that's about it.
WTF? What has this to do with anything?
You really gonna argue that waggle controls are the same as using a mouse?
*I know you can control most games sitting down, but I still have to make weird gestures instead of just pressing a button.