Using your account is separate from activations.
You can use your PSN ID in as many as you want.
You can only activate your ID for games (PSN) on 2 consoles and 2 handhelds at a time.
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Nin-Network Acct locked to system it was made on [Upd: Customer Service can't help]
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You can use your PSN ID in as many as you want.
You can only activate your ID for games (PSN) on 2 consoles and 2 handhelds at a time.
Up to 5 PS3s for content bought before Nov. 2011, up to 2 PS3s afterwards. Infinite amount of PS3s for content like demos, videos, etc.
Yeah, the point is that with each PSN/XBL purchase, you basically get 2 licenses: one account-bound and one hardware-bound. Only one of those needs to be present, and you can still rather easily move the hardware-bound one.
Currently on Wii U you get a single hardware-bound license that you cannot move.
Currently on Wii U you get a single hardware-bound license that you cannot move.
IrishNinja
Member
this is the first thing ive found genuinely troubling since launch. is the OP saying they'll have it patched in to migrate the account, or only for consoles after the WU?
it's the same kinda thing that keeps me from buying retail games on 3DS' eshop. i once had a customer service person tell me there's a way to recover some of your lost games by putting your club nintendo account on a new system but she made it sound like it possibly might not recover every title.
this post was either incompetent or made by someone willfully ignorant of nintendo, to the point of damaging their post
it's the same kinda thing that keeps me from buying retail games on 3DS' eshop. i once had a customer service person tell me there's a way to recover some of your lost games by putting your club nintendo account on a new system but she made it sound like it possibly might not recover every title.
this post was either incompetent or made by someone willfully ignorant of nintendo, to the point of damaging their post
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/325065/psn-downloads-will-now-be-restricted-to-2-devices/
Looks like we were both wrong, but not for the better: reduced to 2 PS3s per PSN account, reduced from 5.
Using a PSN ID without the games that come with it is still possible, but kinda useless for anything but cheevos and stat tracking.
Maybe you should watch out before making accusations about someone not reading up on the subject, hey?
WrenchNinja
Member
No, he's right, you can use your PSN account on any amount of PS3s you want. Having access to downloads activations are a different story. Please get your facts straight.
Are you purposely not reading the posts that have the right information? (As in, the first two posts in this page.)
WrenchNinja
Member
You were still wrong about the the current number of activations and made it seem like you couldn't deactivate a console from the console and only through the site, which isn't actually one year by the way, it's six months. And no, I am not "salty" about how PSN does it.
Considering this discussion is about content migration, I don't know why you're trying to pull "the other company does dumb things with it too" thing when that is not really the case.
Also, not being able to sign into multiple PS3s at the same time isn't a problem. That makes perfect sense and most services do that. XBL has the issue where you have to be signed into your account while playing a game tied to your account on a console it wasn't bought on or had the console license migrated to, but it's not that big a deal since Microsoft at least gives you the option to play games tied to your account on other devices.
This is also not true for normal game downloads for normal accounts. Plus works a little differently though. There are only two games on PSN that have always online DRM, just in case anyone brings it up, Final Fight: Double Impact and Bionic Commando: Rearmed 2.
The former would require actual journalism, so that might take quite a while to happen.
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Macho Madness
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Only designers and execs would have any real information. PR is probably working on a statement about this though. Probably would get a placeholder one for now.
Nope. It is useful if you want to want to stay overnight at a friend's house and play the game you've been playing but you want to ensure that all of your progress and trophies are earned into your account and not into your friend's account. Ditto with save file (unless the save is locked like with several titles then you'd need PS+ to upload it into their cloud and re-download it into your friend's computer).
IrishNinja
Member
goddamn its like GAF is in full hot mess mode this week
that said: this is a big fucking deal, way more than 1 GB downloads and a handful of glitches. i do hope this story gets legs & forces nintendo to do the right thing by consumers here, kinda hopeful competition forces that the way XBL pushed PSN to step the fuck up.
until it does though, much like my 3DS: i can see buying smaller digi titles, but full retail games without the reassurance of recovery is a huge, shitty risk to take. it's a shame too, the premium program had me really thinking of buying more games that way, but i just cant see doing that frequently until this is sorted.
likewise not being able to migrate my account to a friend's house. nintendo is one of the companies that pushes for local co-op, leaving this out (even without achievements) is mind-numbing.
that said: this is a big fucking deal, way more than 1 GB downloads and a handful of glitches. i do hope this story gets legs & forces nintendo to do the right thing by consumers here, kinda hopeful competition forces that the way XBL pushed PSN to step the fuck up.
until it does though, much like my 3DS: i can see buying smaller digi titles, but full retail games without the reassurance of recovery is a huge, shitty risk to take. it's a shame too, the premium program had me really thinking of buying more games that way, but i just cant see doing that frequently until this is sorted.
likewise not being able to migrate my account to a friend's house. nintendo is one of the companies that pushes for local co-op, leaving this out (even without achievements) is mind-numbing.
DXB-KNIGHT
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How about taking the system with you to your friend's house, that doesn't work now? It's not like nintendo systems' are huge monsters. I agree though that it's more convenient to simply login your account on another system.
IrishNinja
Member
that's not as easy as it was with the gamecube though, for reasons beyond just the handle.
we're talking about taking a new system, pad, possibly pro & wiimotes after i unplug the HDMI from my receiver, unhook/pack the sensor bar etc and plus not being able to migrate said account means i'm extra fearful of damaging/losing a system tied to my games.
it's doable, sure. i might even try it next week to show a friend. but it's quite shit to have to do all that every time, where with PS3 or 360 i just take a controller, some games and a memory stick.
H_Prestige
Banned
Then activate the new ps3 and start downloading. Pretty sure you don't even need the activation to boot up a game
The ps3 has no issue with content migration like you're trying to make it sound. Wii U offers no such options, not even data transfer. Even the wii allowed data transfer if called Nintendo and bugged them enough
What the-
This is mind-boggling. This can't possibly stay this way, something needs to be done.
I will not buy any digital content if this is staying this way. Most of the stuff people complained about over the last few days didn't bother me (will probably be better once I might get the console when it's been out a while in Europe). But this actually makes me reconsider ever getting a WiiU...
Boycotting digital content isn't going to get the right message across. People need to stop buying their half baked products altogether. Maybe then the super genius Iwata will pay attention to his competition and think about how to build a proper service.
It's insanely daft.
Surely they should have learned from the Wii? Surely that was a support nightmare?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
It's 2012, not 2001. When there's already precedent of it being done on other systems why shouldn't people expect the features in a modern console?
Even if this gets fixed, how on earth was it considered an acceptable policy in the first place? It's completely idiotic. I'm actually interested to hear the reason someone thought this was a good idea. I certainly can't think of any, that's for sure.
Someone got DRM-greedy to comical extremes, I guess.
AkimbO_Arcana
Banned
Europe here. I'll call Nintendo customer service tomorrow. This can't be true. What if I buy content on the eshop and my console bricks? At least they should be able to transfer my account to new hardware in this case, like with the Wii.
Between this and having the bad experience of losing all my eShop and DSiWare games when my 3DS was stolen, I'm unfortunately staying away from Nintendo hardware until they catch up with the times when it comes to accounts. You just can't be a major player in the digital download arena without flexibility and safety nets for consumers, too many chances for things to go wrong with no way to fix it.
BrokenEchelon
Banned
That's hardly the biggest problem about this.
Imagine this: A guy gets a Wii U for his family for Christmas. A very likely scenario in the next two months. He's an average consumer, doesn't frequent gaming forums, but knows that the kids liked the Wii, the wife liked Wii Fit and Just Dance, and he likes a bit of everything.
they decide to buy their games digitally because they're a modern 21st century family that already streams and downloads all of their content via services like Netflix, Apple's App Store and eBooks via Kindle.
Four years down the road, the system dies due to an unfortunate incident (pick whatever you like).
Four years of paid content which could have potentially cost hundreds of dollars is gone. Forever.
grimshawish
Banned
Either you don't know how account transfers work or your trolling.
Nintendo are just being a bunch of blind arses. They have the ability to implement this rather simply.
Aquamarine
Member
Send your console in for repair?
Zoe
Member
What is this "massive data" of which you speak?
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
You need to put more effort in your defense of Nintendo´s backward ass practices.
Aquamarine
Member
Already said in another thread that I don't defend idiotic measures.
This is stupid and anti-consumer, that can't be argued.
But what's to stop you from sending in your console to get repaired if it bricks? My guess is that if you send your broken console in, Nintendo will repair it without deleting your NNID / data / purchases.
AkimbO_Arcana
Banned
A bricked console is only one scenario how to lose your content though.
This is indeed unacceptable. I was ready to go fully digital with the WiiU. Now I don't even want to buy small eshop titles. Fuck.
What if the storage that contains your data is what's broken? Flash isn't exactly indestructible. There's a lot of scenarios that end with all your purchases lost forever.
Zoe
Member
If it's truly bricked, you would get a new or refurbished console.
When my Wii bricked a month after launch, they didn't do anything to transfer over the data. They got better about that as time went on, but who knows how long that will take for the Wii U.
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Saint Gregory
Member
In Nintendo's mind losing your download game is the same as losing a cartridge. That of course is not the reality of how the DD market has ever worked for anyone other than Nintendo so they clearly need to get their shit together and quickly.
I stopped buying DSi games and didn't buy any eShop games for the longest time because of this issue and I only started buying eShop games because of the account announcment which I though would solve this mess. It looks like I won't be getting any download titles on WiiU until we get some clarification on this which is disappointing because I really wanted that Nano Assault game.
FunkyMunkey
Banned
I was barely kind of happy with the wii, and waiting to get wii u, but this is a deal breaker for me. I was already tired of motion control gimmicks and all that, but as a kid who grew up with nintendo, it's frustrating to see them make decisions like this. There's no reason Mario, Zelda, etc can't join the rest of the modern gaming world.
Sorcerer Supreme
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It's things like this that give me a reason never to invest any money into Nintendo's digital platforms.
So here's another fun Nintendo DRM story:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/...ed-400-of-downloaded-games-on-my-failing-wii/
The gist: guy tries to transfer all his Wii VC content, saves, and games to the Wii U, the transfer process gets stuck and doesn't work, he calls Nintendo and they said he has to send in his (fully functioning) Wii for repairs in order to get all his digital data copied to the Wii U, which costs $85.
After taking it up with a few more people on Nintendo CS, they offer to discount the repair for $25. And now that the story has since gone up, Nintendo is now offering the repair for free.
Hoo boy.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/...ed-400-of-downloaded-games-on-my-failing-wii/
The gist: guy tries to transfer all his Wii VC content, saves, and games to the Wii U, the transfer process gets stuck and doesn't work, he calls Nintendo and they said he has to send in his (fully functioning) Wii for repairs in order to get all his digital data copied to the Wii U, which costs $85.
After taking it up with a few more people on Nintendo CS, they offer to discount the repair for $25. And now that the story has since gone up, Nintendo is now offering the repair for free.
Hoo boy.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
This is the type of thing that needs to happen if people want changes with this company.
I think now is important to ask, does your physical copy get linked to the console in anyway? I would say that is absurd but well Nintendo has already crossed that line.
I mean, can you take your physical copy and use it in any other wii u device after using it in other console? it sounds like such a stupid question, but it is seriously a possibility with Nintendo now that it might not be the case. What a mess.
I mean, can you take your physical copy and use it in any other wii u device after using it in other console? it sounds like such a stupid question, but it is seriously a possibility with Nintendo now that it might not be the case. What a mess.
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