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343: Halo 4 is best/fastest selling game in series, will do better on quality 4 Halo5
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Wow I disagree with everything you just said. I felt Halo 2 storytelling was a lot better. For the sandbox: prometheans are worse than the flood, the new weapons are just a skin over human weapons, the best weapons from halo 2 and reach (brute shot, grenade laucher) are gone, the best vehicle ever in an halo game too (Chopper). They even removed the Spirit that came back in reach. The soundtrack might be well produced but lacks soul. I don't know much about the multiplayer as I had no interest in playing it from the information provided before launch, but it was hilariously bad. I also felt any atmosphere went out the window at the end of the third level.
EagleBurnn
Banned
Good lord, did anyone even read his statement? It was more about 343 apologizing to their fans about not supporting it as much as they should and how they will fix such. This happens once in a blue moon in the gaming industry. Instead, one line is taken out of context. Of course 343 said there game was the best, what else did anyone expect them to say? They probably know deep down inside Halo 2 is better, but it's never smart (business wise) to say that.
Neuromancer
Member
Yeah fucking right, 343, you're the only Halo game that ever completely wiped out my campaign save data. Fucking bush league.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
If you played all the Halo games for the first time right now, it's no question that Halo 4 is easily the best one.
Ein Bear
Member
...why? Because it's the prettiest?
dollartaco
Member
Halo 4 is the best-selling game in the series.
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Halo 4 is the fastest-selling game in the series.
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Halo 4 is the best- and fastest-selling game in the series.
It's probably a misquote.
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Halo 4 is the fastest-selling game in the series.
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Halo 4 is the best- and fastest-selling game in the series.
It's probably a misquote.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
Halo 4 may not have impacted my life as heavily as Halo 1 or 2 did, but I think I can still agree that 4 is the best Halo yet.
PeterVenkman
Member
That makes sense. I could see it going that way. I think it's more important that OP included snippets from the interview, and what leads me to interpret it a different way (best game and fastest selling game) is the part where he says "So let me save you the trouble of trolling my statement"
I think it's more that the original statement is shitty and poorly worded.
NullPointer
Member
OMFG Pretty + pretty amazing audio effects + perfect movement and aiming + solid netcode would be my guess.
Actually yeah, that's probably right.
the source title is:
343 boss: next gen Halo 5 will be "genuinely amazing", Halo 4 is "best game in the series"
but in the article he's not claiming that Halo 5 will be amazing, he's just saying that they have the talent to make it amazing
so my original title was supposed to be:
343:we have the talent to make Halo 5 amazing. Halo 4 is "best game in the series"
but because of title length limitation it didn't fit. i played around with it for about 5 minutes trying to keep the meaning of the whole thing without omitting too many words (that's why the quote was not complete).
then i gave up and scratched the first sentence all together, forgetting about restoring the complete quote.
so i'm sorry, but trust me i wasn't trying to sway the thread in any direction.
also i've to apologize, because i honestly didn't understand the quoted sentence as "it's the best-selling and fastest-selling game in the series" but i took it literally
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
Noway, not even close, Halo 4 is the first Halo game I couldn't even finish, it looks amazing but the gameplay is not up to par imo, the ai feels off (although that could be due to level design) I hate the new enemies and weapons, and most of all I hate the new cinematic direction they've taken and trying to over humanise the Chef and Cortana, part of the magic of the Chef's and Cortana's 'relationship' was the subtlety of it.
Halo is Halo imo, it is what it is because it's different, Halo 4 just felt like 'another fps' with a beautiful skin to me, albeit with better than average ai, previous Halo's oozed quality game play, Halo 4 felt a lot more generic.
imo,
Halo CE and ODST are tied, and then Halo Reach > Halo 3 > Halo 2 > Halo 4
Halo is Halo imo, it is what it is because it's different, Halo 4 just felt like 'another fps' with a beautiful skin to me, albeit with better than average ai, previous Halo's oozed quality game play, Halo 4 felt a lot more generic.
imo,
Halo CE and ODST are tied, and then Halo Reach > Halo 3 > Halo 2 > Halo 4
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Its a great achievement but a shadow of the greatness of previous entries.
I'm not going to read the entire article, but from the quotes you put in the OP, NOTHING is said about gameplay.
Fuck this gen and everyone feeling everything other than gameplay makes a great game. And fuck them twice for blatantly ripping off CoD.
Didact deserved better. Eat a dick 343.
Fuck this gen and everyone feeling everything other than gameplay makes a great game. And fuck them twice for blatantly ripping off CoD.
Didact deserved better. Eat a dick 343.
Naked Lunch
Member
The ruined the story forever (the forerunners and their reveal was dumber than anyone could have possibly imagined) and they noobed up the multiplayer beyond belief.
So, no.
So, no.
VGChampion
Member
Having finally played Halo 4, I still find Halo 2/3 to be my favorite MP with Halo 1 having my favorite campaign / co-op fun.
Photolysis
Banned
As someone who hasn't paid this any attention to this, I have to say, I'm really surprised at learning about some of these communication issues.
Frank: You worked at Bungie for a very long time, and for many years were the public face for them. To the outside observer you appeared to play a large role in Bungie's excellent communication, though Bungie policy and employees' willingness to interact and discuss things also helps a great deal.
Why are these sorts of problems occurring on your watch, given your experience?
Frank: You worked at Bungie for a very long time, and for many years were the public face for them. To the outside observer you appeared to play a large role in Bungie's excellent communication, though Bungie policy and employees' willingness to interact and discuss things also helps a great deal.
Why are these sorts of problems occurring on your watch, given your experience?
squidhands
Member
I honestly didn't even think of FUD as part of the marketing campaign, but now that you mention it, it was a pretty great way to gain hype for the game.
Hindsight being what it is, it would have been better (to me, at least) to make everything that was in the Terminals as the replacement for FUD. It probably wouldn't have worked as a live-action event
especially considering that Chief isn't involved in the Terminal info
So "bad" I've been playing it non stop since launch. What a piece of shit!
Can Crusher
Banned
Never played it, but I think such a statement looks poor on them. Considering fan's reception to the game, average scores etc
Still, it's a kick ass game from what I understand.
Still, it's a kick ass game from what I understand.
thanks Nirolak, and i'm really sorry about the mess generated by the title
I don't think it looks poor on them at all. It's quite common for people to be proud of their work. If he acted as though the game was perfect and they haven't made any mistakes, I would agree that it looks poor on them.
Tears For Fears
Banned
Best Halo ever, I'm so glad Bungie left they were holding the IP down. Halo CE was a fluke. Bungie is an awful dev.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Glad the title got updated, was a bit out of context before.
Which cause things like this:
Which cause things like this:
Jack Scofield
Member
Some of you guys are ridiculous. Do you expect a developer to say, "yeah, this game isn't the best in the series. Tough titties."
Shocking news: people are proud of their work.
Shocking news: people are proud of their work.
yankeehater
Member
Halo 4 is by far the best Halo game imo. I enjoyed the sp, I thought the story was interesting and the new enemies and weapons were great. The mp is fucking amazing. Adding ordinance drops has improved it so much, and all the specializations and armor abilities are really fun to use. If they could just fix matchmaking so it doesnt take so long it would be perfect. 343 is a much better developer then Bungie ever was and I never thought I would be saying that before Halo 4 came out.
I know that's your opinion bro, but what made you think CE was a fluke?
gutter_trash
Banned
and no flood
Can Crusher
Banned
It looks poor to say it was the best game. To me at least.
...it's because of Bungie's work over the years that Halo 4 turned as good as you think it did. You don't produce a game like Halo with a fluke.
We'll see with Destiny that they are still one of the best around.
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Yeah I can see how some modesty would do well on their part.
yankeehater
Member
I am not saying Bungie is an awful dev like the other guy but I think it is clear that in terms of making Halo games 343 is better. The jump in graphics is massive from 3/Reach to 4, and I think all the additions that they made to mp have worked out great.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
haha that pic is perfect Dennis.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Best soundtrack, storytelling and i'd even say characters(though the rookie kinda sucks)
Do it.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Wut. I never said or meant that, as anyone who knows me would understand. I am simply talking about sales. Which continues to be true. "Best and fastest selling." Totals and pace it reached those totals.
I thought we were supposed to be The Rookie?
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